Will this spec do for gaming?

[bladekaizer]

Hi,I'm planning to buy a new gaming PC.My budget is around $700-$710.Here's my spec so far:
Intel Core i3 2100 3.1Ghz Cache 3MB [Box] Socket LGA 1155
ASRock H61M-U3S3 (LGA 1155, Intel H61, DDR3, USB3, SATA3)
Hitachi Deskstar 7K.1000C 500GB 16MB SATA III
Patriot DDR3 Signature Line Kit Series Dual Channel PC10600 4GB - PSD3 4G 1333 KH
Manli GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB 256bit GDDR5
PowerUp Basic
Antec VP550P
AOC 18.5\" E943FW Razor LED
Lite On DVD RW 22X SATA [OEM]

its kinda sad nowadays Harddisk price boost very very high
do you have any suggestion? or maybe kindly enough to built an optional for me? thanks in advance

 

[xaira]

build looks solid to me, hard drives will be going down more in january after the christmas demand dries up

 

[bladekaizer]

build looks solid to me, hard drives will be going down more in january after the christmas demand dries up

can GTX 560 Ti run smoothly with PSU 550W?and what about the processor,it is fine with i3 2100? I've been searched that i5 2500k should be better,but then again money is the problem.

 

[xogie]

Minimum power supply is 500 W. So as long as you are not running a lot of lights and fans it should be good enough. Games mostly rely on GPU and not cpu.

 

[HostileDonut]

build looks solid to me, hard drives will be going down more in january after the christmas demand dries up

No, the HDD prices sky rocketed because of the flood in Taiwan destroying MANY drives. As for the machine, it looks nice. I would say, if possible, grab 8gb RAM. Also, if you can pick up a h67 board, I think that would be better. I believe h67 is better than h61, as h61 is more for office use.

 

[HostileDonut]

550w Antec will run that just fine. I would bet your system won't pull more than 350w at max.

 

[bladekaizer]

No, the HDD prices sky rocketed because of the flood in Taiwan destroying MANY drives. As for the machine, it looks nice. I would say, if possible, grab 8gb RAM. Also, if you can pick up a h67 board, I think that would be better. I believe h67 is better than h61, as h61 is more for office use.

thanks for ur suggestion sir, I might consider about that.exactly, in the future I'm planning to add 8GB RAM instead 4GB.

There's another built up came up to my mind,what do you guys think about this :
1.core i5 2500k + HD 6850
2.core i3 2100 + GTX 560 Ti

by looking at the option 1,the processor is better and for option 2, the VGA is better am i right?
if u would choose wisely,which is better to perform in game nowadays?
(I'm very sorry for my bad english..)

 

[xaira]

the gtx 560 is more powerful than the 6850, if the main focus of the rig is gaming then that is the better card

@hostiledonut, i thought the problem was that the factories had to be shut down due to water damage? so they just had the disks lying there and the floods destroyed them, theyre not that smart for multinational companies

 

[mugenkid18]

Japanese hard drives are still cheap (unless the retailer marked it up to even out supply). My 1TB Caviar Black skyrocketted from $79 to $250 on newegg!

To the OP, what resolution will you be running on that monitor? I'm guessing 1440x900? If that's the case, you could probably save some money by downgrading that GPU. My GTX 460 runs everything I've thrown at it on 1920x1080 (23" Samsung) using maximum settings, including Skyrim. Its a MSi N460GTX Hawk 1GB moderately overclocked (not overvolted beyond MSi settings) to 830MHz core / 1900MHz memory. I get about 40-60 FPS depending on the scene intensity.

 

[HostileDonut]

thanks for ur suggestion sir, I might consider about that.exactly, in the future I'm planning to add 8GB RAM instead 4GB.

There's another built up came up to my mind,what do you guys think about this :
1.core i5 2500k + HD 6850
2.core i3 2100 + GTX 560 Ti

by looking at the option 1,the processor is better and for option 2, the VGA is better am i right?
if u would choose wisely,which is better to perform in game nowadays?
(I'm very sorry for my bad english..)

Well, unless you plan to run a p67 r z68 board, don't get a 2500k, get a 2500. The k lets you overclock, and the p67 and z68 chipsets allow you to overclock. You need to pair them. I would grab the 2500k, p67 board with CF support, and a hd6850. That means you can OC and CF when more power is needed. That's what I did, z68 board, 2500k, and GTX 460 1gb so I can upgrade when I need to on the GPU and overclock the CPU as needed.

 

[bladekaizer]

Japanese hard drives are still cheap (unless the retailer marked it up to even out supply). My 1TB Caviar Black skyrocketted from $79 to $250 on newegg!

To the OP, what resolution will you be running on that monitor? I'm guessing 1440x900? If that's the case, you could probably save some money by downgrading that GPU. My GTX 460 runs everything I've thrown at it on 1920x1080 (23" Samsung) using maximum settings, including Skyrim. Its a MSi N460GTX Hawk 1GB moderately overclocked (not overvolted beyond MSi settings) to 830MHz core / 1900MHz memory. I get about 40-60 FPS depending on the scene intensity.

Im not quite understand for sure on what resolution either 1366x768 or 1440x900.So it means GTX 460 still can keep up with todays games?can we CF GTX460?

 

[amuffin]

why not an i5-2500k system with a z68 board? Or a system with a z68 board?

 

[bladekaizer]

why not an i5-2500k system with a z68 board? Or a system with a z68 board?

umm..what is the benefit from z68 board than h61/h67?can you explain? I think im lost now


as for the Topic,I wonder what about this build:
intel i5 2500K (3.1Ghz,C6Mb,Lga1155) intel LGA 1155
ASRock H67M intel Socket 1155
Point Of View GTX 560 1024Mb 256Bit DDR5 NVidia PCI Exp.

After doing some research,what does GTX 560 Ti gives more better than GTX 560 non-Ti?because the price differences is quite critical in my country ( $25-$30), and with non-Ti I can saving money for other stuff.Maybe some of you guys had experiences about this case

 

[alrobichaud]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/43366-nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-1gb-review.html

There is a nice chart here that outlines the components of each card. If you are on a tight budget, get your hands on an overclocked gtx 460 with 1GB of memory. A nice one is the msi gtx 460 1GB with a stock speed of 725MHz and can be easily overclocked to 850MHz with the supplied software without adding any voltage and run stable. If it is in the budget, I would go for the 560 ti just because it is a better card. Other than the base clock speed and a slightly slower memory speed the gtx 560 is no better than an overclocked gtx 460 1GB. I picked up a couple of the 460's refurbished on ebay a while back which came from an authorized reseller so they still qualified for the manufacturers warranty. One of the cards was $126 dollars plus 13 dollars for shipping and came with a 40 dollar mail in rebate from MSI for a grand total of $99. This may be a way to extend your budget a bit further while still getting quality products with a warranty.

 

[alrobichaud]

Also, a single gtx 460 OC 1GB will play BF3 on high settings at 1920x1080 resolution and get 45FPS. The only problem you may encounter with any of the cards that you choose is having only 4GB of RAM. The gtx 460, for example, has 1GB of onboard RAM and will share up to 3GB of RAM from your system if you have it available. My current RAM usage peeks at 5.4GB while playing battlefield3.

 

[HostileDonut]

umm..what is the benefit from z68 board than h61/h67?can you explain? I think im lost now


as for the Topic,I wonder what about this build:
intel i5 2500K (3.1Ghz,C6Mb,Lga1155) intel LGA 1155
ASRock H67M intel Socket 1155
Point Of View GTX 560 1024Mb 256Bit DDR5 NVidia PCI Exp.

After doing some research,what does GTX 560 Ti gives more better than GTX 560 non-Ti?because the price differences is quite critical in my country ( $25-$30), and with non-Ti I can saving money for other stuff.Maybe some of you guys had experiences about this case

Ge a GTX 560 non Ti, because that will save you money for a p67 or z68 board. Your res doesn't need a GTX 560 Ti. A p67 or z68 board allows you to overclock, and run CF/SLi I believe. SLi is Nvidia's CF, so no, you cannot CF GTX 560s, but you can SLi them. If you are running a q67, h67, or h61 board, no reason to get a 2500k, just a 2500. Te k let's you overclock, so you need to pair an overclockable chip, to an overclcokable motherboard. Get it?

 

[bladekaizer]

Ge a GTX 560 non Ti, because that will save you money for a p67 or z68 board. Your res doesn't need a GTX 560 Ti. A p67 or z68 board allows you to overclock, and run CF/SLi I believe. SLi is Nvidia's CF, so no, you cannot CF GTX 560s, but you can SLi them. If you are running a q67, h67, or h61 board, no reason to get a 2500k, just a 2500. Te k let's you overclock, so you need to pair an overclockable chip, to an overclcokable motherboard. Get it?

you mean with z68 and i5 2500k i can overclock my GPU?and what about the performance if GTX 560 non Ti get OC'ed?what is SLI ,sir?

 

[HostileDonut]

you mean with z68 and i5 2500k i can overclock my GPU?and what about the performance if GTX 560 non Ti get OC'ed?what is SLI ,sir?

No, you can overclock your GPU with any board, just not the CPU. To overclock a 2500 CPU, you will need a 2500k (the k means the multiplier is unlocked), and a p67 or z68 board. The p67 and z68 boards allow you to overclock a K series CPU. if you aren't getting a p67 or z68 board, get a core i5 2500, not a 2500k.

 

[HostileDonut]

you mean with z68 and i5 2500k i can overclock my GPU?and what about the performance if GTX 560 non Ti get OC'ed?what is SLI ,sir?

The GTX 560 is still powerful, and can overclock pretty well. As for SLi, it is Nvidia's "Crossfire". It means Scale-able Link Interface. CrossfireX is AMD's multi-GPU setup, and SLi is Nvidia's multi-GPU set up. Basically the same thing for different brands.

 

[bladekaizer]

No, you can overclock your GPU with any board, just not the CPU. To overclock a 2500 CPU, you will need a 2500k (the k means the multiplier is unlocked), and a p67 or z68 board. The p67 and z68 boards allow you to overclock a K series CPU. if you aren't getting a p67 or z68 board, get a core i5 2500, not a 2500k.

For example,with i5 2320 and h67 board I still can overclock GTX 560?but i cant overclock 2320 with h67 board.
Will its gonna be fine if i just Overclock the GPU and not the CPU?

 

[HostileDonut]

For example,with i5 2320 and h67 board I still can overclock GTX 560?but i cant overclock 2320 with h67 board.
Will its gonna be fine if i just Overclock the GPU and not the CPU?

That is correct. You can OC the GPU, just, to overclock a CPU, you a need a K series CPU (e.g. 2500k, 2600k, 2700k) and a z68 or p67 board. So, my point is, if you want the 2500k and a h67 board, just get a 2500 and a h67 board because the 2500k would be of no use to you.

 

[bladekaizer]

That is correct. You can OC the GPU, just, to overclock a CPU, you a need a K series CPU (e.g. 2500k, 2600k, 2700k) and a z68 or p67 board. So, my point is, if you want the 2500k and a h67 board, just get a 2500 and a h67 board because the 2500k would be of no use to you.

thank you for your advice, sir.now just one more question,if i overclock GPU is there any important things i need to consider? (uh really sorry for my bad english,hope u understand this )

 

[HostileDonut]

thank you for your advice, sir.now just one more question,if i overclock GPU is there any important things i need to consider? (uh really sorry for my bad english,hope u understand this )

Your English is great! I can understand you better than plenty I people I talk to. As for overclocking the GPU, I believe a GTX 560 ti can hit around 96 or 104C maximum. But, I would keep it below 90C no higher. Shoot for around 80 - 85C maximum. Now, when you overclock, your memory clock will give you bandwidth. So, you need bandwidth for your OC to be worth while. I can get my core to 900mhz, and my memory 2000Mhz, but it doesn't matter, I get the same performance with my core @ 850Mhz and memory @ 2000Mhz because I don't have enough bandwidth. So, what I am trying to say, is you need to also adjust your memory in order to get more performance. Use a Benchmark to make sure you are gaining FPS every time. So, if you have clocks of 900/1800/4212, and you adjust them to 920/1840/4212, and you gain performance, good. Then maybe 940/1880/4212, but you don't gain any performance, then it's time to move the memory clock. Like this: 940/1880/4280. Then check if you get more performance. (you should) Also, voltage. Too high voltage can break the card, so make sure your voltages doesn't go beyond .1v of the stock voltage. AND MAKE SURE TEMPS ARE GOOD!!!!!! THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING TO LOOK FOR!!!!!!! Then use furmark to make sure it is stable.

Happy overclocking!

 

[bladekaizer]

Best answer selected by bladekaizer.

 

[HostileDonut]

Thanks for the best answer!