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LGA 1155 Upgrade *Feedback Please*

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September 20, 2011 1:39:45 AM

I plan on buying some new parts to upgrade my rig very soon. These are the parts I had in mind for this upgrade:


CPU:

core i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or should I get the core i7 2600k for $100 extra (whats the difference performance wise, is it worth it?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU COOLER:

noctua nh-d14 (how does it compare against other after-market coolers, I hear its one of the best on the market)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOTHERBOARD:

good choice?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

All for about $500-600
What do you guys think? Is everything compatible?

*Feedback Appreciated*

I was also wondering if it would be a good time to upgrade my graphics card. I have a 4870x2 and my main concern is if it will be able to run oblivion 5 smoothly maxed out.
September 20, 2011 1:48:46 AM

This is a gaming rig btw
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September 20, 2011 2:07:44 AM

Whats your current build?
September 20, 2011 2:14:56 AM

CPU: e8400
Motherboard: Rampage Formula
RAM: 4gb
Graphics: 4870X2
Power: 1000 watts
September 20, 2011 2:22:45 AM

WTH did you write upgrade, then? I thought you already have a LGA 1155 rig and want to upgrade it.

i5 2500K - $220
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ - $30
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 - $125
Gskill Ripjaws X Series 8 (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 - $52

Total : $427 before rebates

Whats the brand of your so called 1000W PSU? Raidmax or Rosewill wont do. 2 4870's in Crossfire are powerful enough.
September 20, 2011 2:25:38 AM

I meant upgrade from core 2 duo to core i7, sorry for the misunderstanding..
My power supply is a Antec TruePower Quattro and I dont have 2 4870's in crossfire i have a 4870X2
September 20, 2011 2:27:35 AM

You wont see massive fps improvements by changing the a 2500K and a new motherboard instead of the e8400 .
You might not see any improvement at all apart from some games that can use more cpu cores .

If you want better gaming then just upgrade the grapics card
September 20, 2011 2:30:09 AM

@ Outlander

Agree somewhat.

I'd suggest a i5 2400 + HD 6850, something like that. Perfect combo for gaming. Core2Duo is getting old, too.
September 20, 2011 2:30:18 AM

Outlander_04 said:
You wont see massive fps improvements by changing the a 2500K and a new motherboard instead of the e8400 .
You might not see any improvement at all apart from some games that can use more cpu cores .

If you want better gaming then just upgrade the grapics card


Most games dont run smoothly I'm pretty sure its because of the processor
September 20, 2011 2:35:52 AM

destram25 said:
Most games dont run smoothly I'm pretty sure its because of the processor


well a 2500K wont run many games any faster at all , so you have better hope its not the processor

The 4870 x2 was a beast but drivers sucked .
I would replace it as the first step to good gaming
September 20, 2011 2:42:38 AM

i5 2500K would increase FPS in games like Metro2033 or Crysis 2 or the upcoming Battlefield 3. Core 2 Duo is the bare minimum to run those games. Especially in lower resolutions, you'd realise the FPS increase. I too recommend to replace the GPU with something better. GTX 560Ti is a good card. Overclocks very well.
September 20, 2011 2:47:52 AM

Again. CAn you PLEASE tell use your resolution and fill out the sticky I said?
September 20, 2011 2:49:00 AM

008Rohit said:
i5 2500K would increase FPS in games like Metro2033 or Crysis 2 or the upcoming Battlefield 3. Core 2 Duo is the bare minimum to run those games. Especially in lower resolutions, you'd realise the FPS increase. I too recommend to replace the GPU with something better. GTX 560Ti is a good card. Overclocks very well.


Im interested in the 6850, you think you can put together a build for about $500-700 with the card and a 2500k?
Or anyone else
September 20, 2011 2:49:53 AM

aznshinobi said:
Again. CAn you PLEASE tell use your resolution and fill out the sticky I said?


1920x1080
September 20, 2011 3:03:12 AM

2500K+560 Ti TFII OC by MSI $449 ($20 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Wintec AMPX 4GB DDR3 1333 $27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate 1TB + Lite-On DVD burner $67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Rosewill Challenger + Rosewill Green 530w $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Total: $763
Not very easy to fit it under $700.
September 20, 2011 3:03:51 AM

It was 1680x1050 with the e8400 but i just bought a new 27" monitor
September 20, 2011 3:07:20 AM

aznshinobi said:
2500K+560 Ti TFII OC by MSI $449 ($20 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Wintec AMPX 4GB DDR3 1333 $27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate 1TB + Lite-On DVD burner $67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Rosewill Challenger + Rosewill Green 530w $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Total: $763
Not very easy to fit it under $700.


thanks i appreciate it but i already have a power supply and hard drive / dvd drive

the things i NEED to upgrade is my cpu, motherboard, and ram ..ill upgrade my graphics card if necassary, but ive seen the 4870x2 max out in games such as crysis 2 so i dont think i HAVE to upgrade it just yet
September 20, 2011 3:16:15 AM

Keep the GPU and go with the i5 2500K build I've already posted.
September 20, 2011 3:17:30 AM

5870 vs 4870X2
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/174?vs=162
With 4870x2 you're running a really hot, high pwr consumption and not exactly good (in terms of now) card. The 5870 is basically a 6870 (a little worse in some situations, as of now it is a little worse since drivers).

With that said, onto this bench.
6870 vs 570
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=306
Now you see a huge improvement plus it's cooler and just better. As for the reason I say 570 vs 6870. The MSI 560 Ti OC I recommend in my build is a stock 560 Ti OC'd which equals a 570.
Proof:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms...
September 20, 2011 3:25:56 AM

Here
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=288

scroll to the bottom and check the gaming benchmarks .
In 3 0f the 4 games e8400 exceeds 60 fps. Coincidentally almost all LCD monitors refresh at 60 Hz [ 60fps ] so the user experience of the e8400 and 2500K in those games would be identical . The monitor would just display 60 FPS no matter how many frames the computer churned out .
At higher resolutions the difference will be even less

Therefore the smart money upgrading an e8400 system is to buy a better graphics card .
Im using a 6870 on 1080p monitor and usind a C2D thats probably only a little stronger than an e8400 . I get 45 - 50 fps in the original crysis which is totally playable

But since you aint blowing $$$ on a mb and cpu you dont need then a 6950 , 560 ti or even a GTX 570 are going to be a huge improvement
September 20, 2011 3:42:07 AM

Outlander_04 said:
Here
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=288

scroll to the bottom and check the gaming benchmarks .
In 3 0f the 4 games e8400 exceeds 60 fps. Coincidentally almost all LCD monitors refresh at 60 Hz [ 60fps ] so the user experience of the e8400 and 2500K in those games would be identical . The monitor would just display 60 FPS no matter how many frames the computer churned out .
At higher resolutions the difference will be even less

Therefore the smart money upgrading an e8400 system is to buy a better graphics card .
Im using a 6870 on 1080p monitor and usind a C2D thats probably only a little stronger than an e8400 . I get 45 - 50 fps in the original crysis which is totally playable

But since you aint blowing $$$ on a mb and cpu you dont need then a 6950 , 560 ti or even a GTX 570 are going to be a huge improvement


you sure about that? because a lot of the games i've played the e8400 works at 100% load and gameplay becomes really choppy and its not enjoyable. even when the 4870x2 first came out and it was the best card it was like this
September 20, 2011 4:00:32 AM

yeah, E8400 is a pretty old processor. Not really recommended for running newer multithreaded games.
September 20, 2011 4:35:51 AM

008Rohit said:
yeah, E8400 is a pretty old processor. Not really recommended for running newer multithreaded games.


Quick question on the 2500k and 2600k:
Is there a difference that is worth the extra $100 dollars when it comes to gaming?
September 20, 2011 4:39:19 AM

There is no recognisable difference in performance in gaming between those two. HyperThreading doesn't help in games.
September 20, 2011 5:54:42 AM

008Rohit said:
There is no recognisable difference in performance in gaming between those two. HyperThreading doesn't help in games.


thanks, so what do you think about the parts im upgrading with?
September 20, 2011 6:04:54 AM

The parts in the suggestion I did, minus the ram. Those are great options. It'll give you huge boosts in performance. Especially newer ones.
September 20, 2011 6:24:11 AM

destram25 said:
thanks, so what do you think about the parts im upgrading with?


I've already posted man, just don't be so lazy to look at that post.

i5 2500K - $220
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ - $30
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 - $125
Gskill Ripjaws X Series 8 (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 - $52

Total : $427 before rebates
September 20, 2011 7:12:39 AM

6950 will beat the 5870 by a fair margin.
September 20, 2011 7:23:11 AM

both are equal performance wise.
September 20, 2011 10:06:13 PM

destram25 said:
you sure about that? because a lot of the games i've played the e8400 works at 100% load and gameplay becomes really choppy and its not enjoyable. even when the 4870x2 first came out and it was the best card it was like this



Im absolutely sure your games are not choppy because of the processor .
The 4870 X2 is the issue . Search on line and you will probably find many people having similar issues
http://tinyurl.com/3l7t3o4

The 8400 might be old , but Unless Anandtechs benchmarks are just pulled out of a hat , it can max out those games at those settings .and a computer with a 2500K CANT give you a better gaming experience because the e8400 hits more than 60 FPS anyway .
And as resolution rises [to your 1080p screen ]and load switched more to the graphics card then the fps difference becomes even less.
Wold I build a new computer using an e8400 ? Hell no .
Can you fix stuttering and slow downs by caused by the 4870 X2 by replacing the processor ? Hell no
September 20, 2011 10:34:50 PM

The 560 Ti OC I recommended would be better than the 6950 you posted by a tiny bit. But almost equal.
September 21, 2011 3:20:16 AM

Sometimes 6950 wins, sometimes 560 Ti.
September 21, 2011 8:27:27 PM

Im gonna get the 560 ti because of the micro stutter problem I've had with the 4870x2 and for physx

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September 21, 2011 10:05:33 PM
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Alright good luck, tell us if you have problems.
September 21, 2011 11:59:57 PM

Best answer selected by destram25.
September 22, 2011 12:00:28 AM

aznshinobi said:
Alright good luck, tell us if you have problems.


thanks, i appreciate the help!
September 22, 2011 12:20:56 AM

No problem!
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