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HD 5770/6770 vs 550 Ti vs 460 SE

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July 21, 2011 10:23:58 PM


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:7/25-7/26
BUDGET RANGE: $140 Before Rebates

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, HD movies, netflix hd streaming, 3D movies.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 512 MB GDDR3 lower clocked edition (625/1400 mhz) and PSU is Ultra LS-600 600 watt psu (32 amps on 12 volt rail)

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: CPU: AMD Athlon x4 630, motherboard M4A78LT-M LE RAM 2x2 GB DDR3 1333

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, amazon, ebay (new only) COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: Both AMD or Nvidia, just need good performance
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x720, 1280x1024, 1600x900,1600x1200, 1920x1080 (depends on which res the game looks better on)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: just want something cheap that will get me through Battlefield 3 @ high or medium @ atleast 1280x720

Currently I already run Bad Company 2 with high settings 4xAA (shadows low) @ 1280x1024 but I want to max it out @ 1920x1440, im pretty sure these will be able to do it, anyone agrees with me?
anywho, I also play crysis warhead/wars sometimes, it lag spikes alot, (Maybe because of downclocked memory?)

Also I prefer ASUS cards because they can save me more power with EPU engine, but if the price is right, i'll take some other company, XFX and EVGA are also preferred (warranty)


These are the cards im looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ASUS 550 Ti Open box, does it include warranty?

http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20 EVGA B-Stock (cheap cards)

I know there is a asus 6770 but its memory is downclocked and the other CuCore cooler looks bad and too small.

All advices appreciated,
Thanks!

More about : 5770 6770 550 460

a c 376 U Graphics card
July 21, 2011 11:18:34 PM

I wouldn't bother with anything lower than an 1gb GTX 460 or HD6850. I've heard sketchy things about EVGA B-Stock but if you want to go for that the GTX 460 1024MB FPB for $109 is the best deal.
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July 22, 2011 4:50:05 AM

jyjjy said:
There's also an HD6850 for $125 with a free game;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?SID...
Use promo code XFX719

To tell you the truth, I literally just bought the zotac gtx 460, and was interested in the 6850, yet I saw that in most current benchmarks the gtx 460 came ahead, so I would reccomend that over the radeon
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July 22, 2011 6:15:10 AM

I only have $140 total, im 15 so I don't have a source of income for myself, this amount took me basically 6 months to get. And I want to upgrade right now, my 4850 is overheating as is.

on a random note:
who thinks buying a professional graphics grade crt monitor in 2004 was a bad idea, even tho it does 1920x1080 and 2048x1546?

Thanks!
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July 22, 2011 6:15:29 AM

geis said:
To tell you the truth, I literally just bought the zotac gtx 460, and was interested in the 6850, yet I saw that in most current benchmarks the gtx 460 came ahead, so I would reccomend that over the radeon

The HD6850 is a better brand with a lifetime warranty and the game can be ebayed for $20 or so if you don't want it. The average performance difference between an HD6850 and GTX 460 1gb is microscopic.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_6850_S...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 22, 2011 6:22:21 AM

taha1112 said:
who thinks buying a professional graphics grade crt monitor in 2004 was a bad idea, even tho it does 1920x1080 and 2048x1546?
If it's lasted you this long and still looks good I don't see what the problem is.
As for the card I guess roll the dice with that EVGA B-Stock 460 I suppose.
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July 22, 2011 6:45:06 AM

jyjjy said:
If it's lasted you this long and still looks good I don't see what the problem is.
As for the card I guess roll the dice with that EVGA B-Stock 460 I suppose.

I'll have to get a molex to 6 pin connector and a DVI to vga cable....

Are you sure it will run on my PSU this one:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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July 22, 2011 12:41:01 PM

get the HD 6790, as long as you stick with AMD proc so you'd better have AMD graphics card 6790 is powerful and comparable with GTX 560ti beats GTX 460 and cheaper as well 148$
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July 22, 2011 7:05:11 PM

ilysaml said:
get the HD 6790, as long as you stick with AMD proc so you'd better have AMD graphics card 6790 is powerful and comparable with GTX 560ti beats GTX 460 and cheaper as well 148$

Thats a load of u know what
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July 22, 2011 7:27:04 PM

taha1112 said:
I'll have to get a molex to 6 pin connector and a DVI to vga cable....

Are you sure it will run on my PSU this one:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Are you sure you don't already have a DVI to VGA adapter? I think almost every card I have bought over the last 5+ years came with one.
I think the PSU should handle it. Might want to leave it at stock speeds though.

geis said:
uday_88 said:
get the HD 6790, as long as you stick with AMD proc so you'd better have AMD graphics card 6790 is powerful and comparable with GTX 560ti beats GTX 460 and cheaper as well 148$
Thats a load of u know what

Yeah, basically not a single part of that is true.
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July 22, 2011 7:37:00 PM

jyjjy said:
Are you sure you don't already have a DVI to VGA adapter? I think almost every card I have bought over the last 5+ years came with one.
I think the PSU should handle it. Might want to leave it at stock speeds though.

Thats a load of u know what

Yeah, basically not a single part of that is true.[/quotemsg]

Always bought a card with atleast 1 VGA port, so never needed a dvi to vga connector, I remember having 1 back when I had the 7600 GT but its long gone now
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July 22, 2011 9:26:52 PM

ilysaml said:
get the HD 6790, as long as you stick with AMD proc so you'd better have AMD graphics card 6790 is powerful and comparable with GTX 560ti beats GTX 460 and cheaper as well 148$

fanboy much?
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July 22, 2011 9:27:02 PM

jyjjy said:
Are you sure you don't already have a DVI to VGA adapter? I think almost every card I have bought over the last 5+ years came with one.
I think the PSU should handle it. Might want to leave it at stock speeds though.

Thats a load of u know what

Yeah, basically not a single part of that is true.[/quotemsg]
review toms chart and conclusion then tell us what you think
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6790-bart...
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July 22, 2011 9:33:05 PM

taha1112 said:
fanboy much?

what do you mean ? AMD 6K series is based on the Cayman and RV970 "Barts" architecture which is better than Evergreen architectures which is used in the 5k series, in addition to more transistors, clock speeds which improves the performance of the 6K series in addition to the CF scaling which improves the performance of these cards than the last implemented in the 5K series
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July 22, 2011 11:53:59 PM

ilysaml said:
review toms chart and conclusion then tell us what you think
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6790-bart...

Either you can't properly read charts or didn't bother to look at that one because it doesn't support what you said. It doesn't include the GTX 560 Ti which is on par with an HD6950 and the GTX 460 it matches on that chart is the gimped 768mb model which I don't believe is even in production any more. When it was though it was the better card as you'd see if you looked at more than one site or one chart at 1680x1050 without AA. In general the HD6790 is on par with or very slightly slower than the HD5830 and GTX 460 SE.
FYI Tom's is one of last sites I would turn to for gaming benchmarks. They just don't seem very good at it IMO. Better sites to look at for future reference;
http://www.techpowerup.com/
http://www.guru3d.com/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/
For a straight up ranking of various cards this is pretty accurate;
http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/502403-...
The charts at techpowerup are also quite convenient and more comprehensive;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_6790/22.html
That chart you thought might change my mind also doesn't address your suggestion that he "better" get an AMD card if he has an AMD processor. That's something you entirely made up. The only difference it might make is that AMD motherboard chipsets are much less likely to be SLI compatible than ones for Intel processors. The OP's motherboard however isn't even Crossfire capable so the subject is irrelevant.
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July 23, 2011 2:11:17 AM

jyjjy said:
Either you can't properly read charts or didn't bother to look at that one because it doesn't support what you said. It doesn't include the GTX 560 Ti which is on par with an HD6950 and the GTX 460 it matches on that chart is the gimped 768mb model which I don't believe is even in production any more. When it was though it was the better card as you'd see if you looked at more than one site or one chart at 1680x1050 without AA. In general the HD6790 is on par with or very slightly slower than the HD5830 and GTX 460 SE.
FYI Tom's is one of last sites I would turn to for gaming benchmarks. They just don't seem very good at it IMO. Better sites to look at for future reference;
http://www.techpowerup.com/
http://www.guru3d.com/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/
For a straight up ranking of various cards this is pretty accurate;
http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/502403-...
The charts at techpowerup are also quite convenient and more comprehensive;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_6790/22.html
That chart you thought might change my mind also doesn't address your suggestion that he "better" get an AMD card if he has an AMD processor. That's something you entirely made up. The only difference it might make is that AMD motherboard chipsets are much less likely to be SLI compatible than ones for Intel processors. The OP's motherboard however isn't even Crossfire capable so the subject is irrelevant.

since i was a big fan of AMD and studied a lot about their innovations, AMD Itself stated that Phenom II processors works fine like a charm with Radeon PCIe cards that doesn't mean that he has to stick to AMD HD graphics cards, even Nvidia cards will work perfectly with AMD cpu but when the same company produces both AMD CPUs and HD chips it would be nice to have both in one rig as AMD and ATI is a unified architecture.
when we talk about the gtx 460 and HD 6790 the question is what is the benefit from an increase by 10 % in the performance when acquiring the GTX 460 ? he won't even feel the difference, they are very close in the benchmarks and i'm talking about the 1 gb version btw me myself i will exclude both cards and get the 560 ti if budget is not an issue
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July 23, 2011 2:35:37 AM

Back to the topic please, I am going to order online today, please give me the final thoughts about the purchase, and because I could not find the right price or a good warranty, here are my 2 choices:

Zotac GTX 460 768 MB

and

Radeon HD 6790

Both about the same price, and similar performance, which one is better and why?

Power consumption is one of the priorities now.
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July 23, 2011 3:07:42 AM

ilysaml said:
but when the same company produces both AMD CPUs and HD chips it would be nice to have both in one rig as AMD and ATI is a unified architecture.
What advantage do you think this will bring exactly? The new AMD CPUs with their nice built in GPUs that can crossfire with certain discrete cards can give a real advantage but for the OP's situation you are basically just repeating meaningless marketing fluff as far as I'm aware.
ilysaml said:
when we talk about the gtx 460 and HD 6790 the question is what is the benefit from an increase by 10 % in the performance when acquiring the GTX 460 ?
The benefit, obviously, would be 10% more performance, if that was true, which it isn't. If you take a look at the last link in my post the GTX 460 actually averages 17% faster than the HD6790. That's also for reference speeds and the GTX 460 is rarely sold at reference so the actual difference is usually higher. For example this is the cheapest GTX 460 on newegg at the moment.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It has a factory OC which should put its performance at a solid 25% higher than the HD6790 while costing only $7.50 more than the cheapest HD6790.
But anyways the main point is you said the HD6790 is comparable to the GTX 560 Ti and better than the GTX 460 and both of those things are simply quite untrue. People come here for advice, not misinformation.
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July 23, 2011 3:19:20 AM

taha1112 said:
Back to the topic please, I am going to order online today, please give me the final thoughts about the purchase, and because I could not find the right price or a good warranty, here are my 2 choices:

Zotac GTX 460 768 MB

and

Radeon HD 6790

Both about the same price, and similar performance, which one is better and why?

Power consumption is one of the priorities now.
We were exactly on topic actually as the exchange had me already cover GTX 460 768mb vs HD6790. Check out the last link in my post with all the links. It gives detailed average performance numbers for those two cards at a variety of resolutions. Keep in mind the factory OC factor I mentioned in my last post. The Zotac card you linked has one though it is small but add 5% to the numbers in the techpower up link for the GTX 460 768mb. If you are interested in OCing on your own it also has more headroom on top of the factory OC than the HD6790.
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July 23, 2011 4:15:47 AM

jyjjy said:
We were exactly on topic actually as the exchange had me already cover GTX 460 768mb vs HD6790. Check out the last link in my post with all the links. It gives detailed average performance numbers for those two cards at a variety of resolutions. Keep in mind the factory OC factor I mentioned in my last post. The Zotac card you linked has one though it is small but add 5% to the numbers in the techpower up link for the GTX 460 768mb. If you are interested in OCing on your own it also has more headroom on top of the factory OC than the HD6790.

Get the Zotac 1gb it is way faster than 6790 and is only 123 free shipping
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July 23, 2011 4:24:52 AM

jyjjy said:
We were exactly on topic actually as the exchange had me already cover GTX 460 768mb vs HD6790. Check out the last link in my post with all the links. It gives detailed average performance numbers for those two cards at a variety of resolutions. Keep in mind the factory OC factor I mentioned in my last post. The Zotac card you linked has one though it is small but add 5% to the numbers in the techpower up link for the GTX 460 768mb. If you are interested in OCing on your own it also has more headroom on top of the factory OC than the HD6790.

Do u know how to report this guy for spreading false info?
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July 23, 2011 6:37:16 AM

Best answer selected by taha1112.
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July 23, 2011 6:38:13 AM

I got the EVGA b stock GTX 460 1 GB FPB, I hope it lasts, although i wanted a better warranty but, i guess for the price, I cant complain.

Thanks for the help!


EDIT: dont close the thread, I am going to post benchies in a week thanks! :D 
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July 23, 2011 6:45:54 AM

geis said:
Do u know how to report this guy for spreading false info?

There is a little report link at the top of each post that you can use to contact a mod.
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July 23, 2011 7:25:54 AM

ilysaml said:
Yeah, basically not a single part of that is true.

review toms chart and conclusion then tell us what you think
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6790-bart...[/quotemsg]

If you look at the gameplay benchmarks, GTX 460 scored about 15 more FPS than the 6790.
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July 23, 2011 11:15:38 AM

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