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Should I Wait For "Bulldozer"

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September 22, 2011 2:36:56 AM

Hey, so I'm kinda on the edge if I should buy my 2500K or wait 21 days for Bulldozer?

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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 5:39:06 AM

in 21 days , and if AMD is competitive then the 2500k might be $40 cheaper

your call
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 5:51:19 AM

Unless there is some burning need to buy now, I'd wait until Bulldozer/Zambezi is released as Intel mobos and CPUs are over-priced IMO.
September 22, 2011 5:56:08 AM

just wait for BULLDOZER :D 
a c 136 B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 6:13:21 AM

beenthere said:
Unless there is some burning need to buy now, I'd wait until Bulldozer/Zambezi is released as Intel mobos and CPUs are over-priced IMO.


Absolutely right . The cost of a processor is directly related to its surface area . AMD's phenom quads are MUCH larger than the dual core i3 and they sell them profitably ..........for less

The only conclusion is : INTEL CHARGE TOO MUCH
a b B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 6:18:10 AM

It's not just the CPU. The Intel CPU based mobos are generally more expensive than AMD mobos, too.
September 22, 2011 6:23:53 AM

iam2thecrowe said:
just buy the 2500k. Nothing beats it for gaming and it overclocks effortlessly to 4ghz+. I don't expect bulldozer to be great for gaming, but if your not in a hurry it should be released 12 October i think.....unless they delay it again....
http://lenzfire.com/2011/09/amd-bulldozer-official-pric...
heres some official benchmark apparentlly http://lenzfire.com/2011/09/amd-bulldozer-fx-81x0-offic...


I agree, whilst Intel's processors are more expensive they give more performance than their AMD counter parts.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

i7 2600K is ranked at 7 compared to AMD's Phenom II x6 1100T at rank 53. I'd always go with the i7.
a c 136 B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 6:28:42 AM

sam_fisher said:
I agree, whilst Intel's processors are more expensive they give more performance than their AMD counter parts.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

i7 2600K is ranked at 7 compared to AMD's Phenom II x6 1100T at rank 53. I'd always go with the i7.



Sam can you please show me where AMD's new Bulldozer CPU's are on your benchmark?
September 22, 2011 6:32:44 AM

I don't think PassMark have tested the Bulldozer at all. I just grabbed what are the 'top' consumer CPUs are from each manufacturer.
September 22, 2011 6:35:55 AM

Here this is from http://lenzfire.com/2011/09/amd-bulldozer-fx-81x0-offic... as iam2thecrowe posted.

"AMD has compared Bulldozer benchmarks with Intel Core i7 980X extreme edition and Core i5 2500/2400. So Bulldozer is not meant to compete with neither Core i7 second generation Sandy Bridge processors nor the upcoming Sandy Bridge-E processors"
a b B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 6:42:27 AM

Those are the intro model Bulldozer models designed to compete at specific price points matching Intel CPUs. There will be faster versions available plus if they OC as claimed up to 5 Ghz. on good air-cooling they could be the best value of the decade with the pricing that is being touted.

Be careful with bogus benches that favor Intel CPUs even when AMD CPUs outperform Intel is real world applications. There is a place for both brands and AMD tends to always be the performance/value proposition even when they have the CPU performance lead.
a c 136 B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 6:43:48 AM

sam_fisher said:
I don't think PassMark have tested the Bulldozer at all. I just grabbed what are the 'top' consumer CPUs are from each manufacturer.




So you haven't seen any real independent benchmarks [ just like everyone else ] but its your opinion that intel are awesome and everyone should buy one .
Thanks for that well reasoned opinion
September 22, 2011 6:46:41 AM

I didn't say that Intel are awesome and that everyone should buy one. What I said was that given the previous performance of Intel and AMD it can be reasonable to presume that the 2600K will out perform Bulldozer. I'll accept that I didn't provide independent benchmarks or comparisons or give 'equal' comparisons.
a c 136 B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2011 7:57:12 AM

sam_fisher said:
I didn't say that Intel are awesome and that everyone should buy one. What I said was that given the previous performance of Intel and AMD it can be reasonable to presume that the 2600K will out perform Bulldozer. I'll accept that I didn't provide independent benchmarks or comparisons or give 'equal' comparisons.


When you say " previous performance" are you talking about those years where the Athlon 64 completely dominated anything Intel was able to build ?

Or the time when intel made processors that couldnt actually COUNT ?


September 22, 2011 8:35:22 AM

Alright, I understand that my comment may not have been supported enough, and that my opinions are wrong. I'll just leave this topic.
September 22, 2011 7:33:40 PM

Okay... aside from the arguing
i think ill go for the i5 2500k
thanks for all the help! :pt1cable: 
!