First budget build.
Looking to keep Bulldozer option open.
Looking to Crossfire in future. (x2 6850s)
May try to over clock once I get the hang of it.
Mostly for gaming, watching movies, surfing internet.
Looking for most bang for buck value.
@slcmike: Nice! They have it for $54.50 and thanks for the reply for the thermal.
I think they sell the vengeance, but it's only individual 4gbs for $42.75
If I buy two of them will that make a dual channel kit? or is it supposed to come in twos?
Also, is Kingston reliable?
Kingston are a very reliable RAM manufacturer, probably the biggest RAM manufacturer, period. Certainly don't buy single channel RAM, stick with Dual Channel.
I know Intel SandyBridge CPU's require 1.5v or less RAM, im not sure how this works with AMD though. Most good Kingston RAM (XMP) seems to be 1.65v which will work sometimes on SandyBridge but issues have been known to occur.
Ill leave someone else to answer the question "will 1.65v RAM work with Phenom processors"....
Kingston RAM says this:
Each module kit has been tested to run at DDR3-1600MHz at a low latency timing of 9-9-9-27 at 1.65V. The SPDs are programmed to JEDEC standard latency DDR3-1333MHz timing of 9-9-9 at 1.5V.
Basically meaning if Phenom doesn't work with 1.65v RAM then you'll have to run the lower MHz frequency of 1333MHz.
@slcmike: Hahaha I just can't seem to finalize it. There's so much to look at and consider! Future-proofing, benchmarks, CF 16x/4x vs 8x/8x, Intel vs Amd, WD vs Samsung (thanks for that part), All this ram stuff, Which is the best/budget mobo.. I've been looking around and the i5 2500K seems to be the sort of "Sweet Spot" I'm looking for. However, If I go with Intel I give up a possible upgrade to Bulldozer.. which I have no idea will even be good. I think I might wait it out and see what's best.
@ervinelim: I've heard. I was always thinking that my old gpu(9500GT) was the cause of stuttering, but I guess my athlonIIx4 635 is the main culprit. But I'm thinking of upgrading the monitor when I can.
While it does make sense to see what BullDozer has to offer, you'll be in the same position again next year when Intel release IvyBridge - which seeing as its going to be using a newer chip (22nm) it's likely to be considerably better than the current 32nm SnadyBridge and BullDozer chips.
For motherboards, and PCI slots, x8/x8 is what you want to look for if your going to crossfire. A board with x16/x4 i believe will only run at x4/4 in crossfire mode. x2 PCIe x16 slots are recommended running at x8/x8.
RAM - Generally the best value for money and the best sweet spot currently is 1600MHz, CL9, 1.5v - G.Skill and Corsair are both popular choices. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-crucial... however, BullDozer, if i remember correctly will have native support for 1866MHz RAM and so if your going with an AMD build, id recommend looking into that (as for timings, im not too sure, i presume CL9 but maybe CL8).