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aga the hunter dude   09-22-2011 at 08:36:32 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: soon, probably this week or next

Budget Range: $400 ish; the lower the better but I don't have a concrete cap.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: HTPC. i'm going to be playing movies on this and also recording 1080p content from time to time using Hauppage HD PVR (uses graphics hardware to encode)

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, ram, case (though i understand most low end cases with power supplies are almost the same cost as most low end power supplies so a case can also be on the list, especially those that have power supplies included)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon.com (I have Prime), newegg.com is ok too

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: none, would like a small form factor for a case though if buying new one.

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe. (with A8 suggestions)

Monitor Resolution: 1920X1080 1080p

Additional Comments: I'd like this to be fairly quiet. so a fanless graphics card probably is needed


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rwpritchett   09-23-2011 at 12:36:25 AM

Well to start, since you didn't mention gaming just forget about a graphics card. Both Intel and AMD processors have built in graphics that is more than enough for HTPC use.

 

That said, here's a list to give you some ideas:

 


The AMD setup will run you $421, the Intel setup will run you $413. Both AMD and Intel motherboards have the new USB 3.0 header needed for the case's front USB 3.0 cable.

 

I highly recommend you find it in your budget to get a second, smaller hard drive to hold OS + apps and use the large green HDD for media only. You'll have to expand your budget if you truly want an A8.


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danraies   09-23-2011 at 12:58:30 AM

rwpritchett's advice is good. If you can't afford a boot drive maybe get the Samsung Spinpoint F3 for the same price. It's only 1TB but 7200RPM. Booting from the 5400RPM drives isn't ideal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185

Also if you can afford to expand your budget to incorporate an A8 I think you'd see a noticeable difference.

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aga the hunter dude   09-23-2011 at 04:10:20 AM

Thanks for the replies. yeah I can definitely pitch a bit more for an A8. I'm just weighing my options.


now if only Micro Center has a deal on APUs as well and not just CPU+mobos building this thing will be a lot easier.


to be frank i don't care about boot up speed. As long as the movies will play and I can encode 1080p movies and tv shows, i'll be happy. The way I see it the 5400 rpm drives will be quiter by a bit.

I can also shave off 25 to that by transferring 4 gb of ram from my other build. Then again it isn't much

Also USB 3.0 headers aren't really a necessity for me by any stretch. Maybe in the future when it is as widely used I'll just make another one.

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Dugimodo   09-23-2011 at 04:54:01 AM

I'm not in the US so I won't reccommend specific parts, but if you want to go ITX there are some very nice boards available now. I built my Home theatre PC from a H57 based ASUS ITX board and an i5 (overkill perhaps but I do play games on it) in a silverstone Sugo SG06.

It's tiny cube style case that won't suit everyone but I can confirm that sandybridge HD2000 graphics handle 1080P playback with hardly any CPU load.

You can also get ITX boards with embedded AMD fusion CPU/GPU's that should make a good basis for a really efficient HTPC.

Just an option if you wannt to go really small.

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aga the hunter dude   09-23-2011 at 06:38:19 PM

I figure that I can reach a $400 figure with my HTPC with A8 specs


A8 $135
A75 Mobo $75
2TB HDD from NCIX today $60
BluRay $65
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that puts me $335, and have room for about $75-$90 power supply and case combo

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rwpritchett   09-23-2011 at 06:59:31 PM

Excellent.

Case selection is a subjective matter. I'm of the opinion that an HTPC should look like A/V equipment.

For a PSU, unless it's an Antec bundled with an Antec case, I suggest you look for one that doesn't come with a case. You want efficient and silent with a PSU. Look at Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, PC Power & Cooling for good quality and acoustics.

Also, don't forget to pick up a remote.

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aga the hunter dude   09-23-2011 at 07:50:19 PM

rwpritchett wrote :

Excellent.

Case selection is a subjective matter. I'm of the opinion that an HTPC should look like A/V equipment.

For a PSU, unless it's an Antec bundled with an Antec case, I suggest you look for one that doesn't come with a case. You want efficient and silent with a PSU. Look at Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, PC Power & Cooling for good quality and acoustics.

Also, don't forget to pick up a remote.



I just think that efficiency in this case is lost since these htpcs usually draw around 200w or less. So i'm willing to gamble on cases with included power supplies

I have a Harmony One. Do you have any IR receiver suggestions?

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rwpritchett   09-23-2011 at 08:25:24 PM

I would be more concerned about PSU fan noise. But, you may find a rough gem in a bundled PSU.

For the IR receiver, you'll probably have to get a remote/receiver bundle just to get the receiver. One like this or like this. That first one has the receiver I use, which I can verify works with Harmony remotes. You can find receivers by themselves on eBay too. A very popular one for Harmony remotes is the HP USB receiver.

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aga the hunter dude   09-23-2011 at 09:25:49 PM

Thanks for the advise. I have a backup plan in case the bundled PSU turns out to be noisy. ;)

so far:

Motherboard: A75 Mobo $75
CPU: AMD A8 APU $135
BluRay: Samsung BluRay $55
Case/PSU: Compucase MATX $50 AR

bought:
HDD: 2TB 5900 RPM HDD $60
MCE controller: HP MCE USB IR receiver $14

$389

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Dougie Fresh   09-23-2011 at 09:48:02 PM

You'd be surprised that even in the sub-200W usage, the PSU efficiency still makes a big difference. I hooked a Kill-A-Watt up to the 250W PSU that comes with the Apex MI-008 and then swapped the Apex PSU out for a Seasonic 250W PSU. I saw a 10W difference at idle and 20W difference at full load in favor of the Seasonic. The Seasonic is 80+, the Apex isn't 80+ rated.

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rwpritchett   09-23-2011 at 11:33:55 PM

aga the hunter dude wrote :

BluRay: Samsung BluRay $55

That OEM drive won't come with blu-ray software. You can use free software like MPC-HC or XMBC, but you'll only be able to watch the movie with no menu's or special features and sometimes the audio/subtitle tracks are difficult to change. The retail drive costs $10 more, but comes with PowerDVD. Unless you already have software to use?

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