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70 max budget (5670 GDDR5 DX11 vs 4850?)

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July 24, 2011 5:49:14 AM

So I was looking around and find out a 5670 is about the best I can do with GDDR5 (maybe DDR3 at some stores) and a 4850 at random stores is the best I could do?

I'm assuming the 4850 would be best and have some life left in it ?

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=HD4850-PCIE-102...
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 6:24:07 AM

does it have the same price? if they priced the same then you might want to pick 4850. performance wise 4850 will win over 5670 any day. if you really want to play around DX11 stuff 5670 are not going to worth it. the card was too weak to handle DX11. 4850 should do fine up to 1600x900 / 1680x1050 with high mixed with medium/low setting
July 24, 2011 6:34:27 AM

renz496 said:
does it have the same price? if they priced the same then you might want to pick 4850. performance wise 4850 will win over 5670 any day. if you really want to play around DX11 stuff 5670 are not going to worth it. the card was too weak to handle DX11. 4850 should do fine up to 1600x900 / 1680x1050 with high mixed with medium/low setting


What about DX stuff? Such as: me purchasing a 4580, and buying a DX11 game.. Will the DX always be 'backwards compatible" for me automatically? Or would the game actually have to be made/support either of the lower DX's (10.1, 10, 9.0C) that the 4850 supports ?
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a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 6:38:56 AM

If a game is DX11 and your card only has DX10 itll play it on DX10, nothing to worry about.

That is a really good deal, I'm thinking of getting one now, instead of the 5670 ;) 
July 24, 2011 6:47:14 AM

The Halo Don said:
If a game is DX11 and your card only has DX10 itll play it on DX10, nothing to worry about.

That is a really good deal, I'm thinking of getting one now, instead of the 5670 ;) 


What manufacturer is it though ? It looks "generic" ? like no Sapphire, MSI, XFX, etc?
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 6:49:18 AM

The Halo Don said:
If a game is DX11 and your card only has DX10 itll play it on DX10, nothing to worry about.

That is a really good deal, I'm thinking of getting one now, instead of the 5670 ;) 


it depends on the game as well. game such as BFBC2 which was coded to work with dx9/10/11 will do as you said. but for a game that only coded with dx9 and 11 only the user with DX10 card will be forced to play the game in DX9. a few good examples for this are Dirt 2 and Dragon Age 2
a b U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 6:49:48 AM

This is the reference one, the one ATI made.
July 24, 2011 7:31:37 AM

spending $100 is going to be too heavy on me with the temps over 100F outside in the summer lol.

So I'll just get a 4850 I guess.
a c 164 U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 7:46:29 AM

It's not a bad card, don't feel bad about buying it. I was trying to find a way to get you DX11 with better performance. Keep your eyes out for the 5750. Performs about the same as the 4850, but supports DX11.
July 24, 2011 7:54:24 AM

4745454b said:
It's not a bad card, don't feel bad about buying it. I was trying to find a way to get you DX11 with better performance. Keep your eyes out for the 5750. Performs about the same as the 4850, but supports DX11.


The 5750 is up around $120+ though. way over a budget for me.
a c 106 U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 2:37:57 PM

I saw a 5750 for $79.99 at Best Buy. They were on clearance.

Anyway, the 5670 is a good card for the price, but the 4850 is faster. Yeah the 5670 has DX11, but it's honestly too slow of a card to try and use it. The only thing it has over the 4850 is to use eyefinity but you certainly wouldn't try to use it for eyefinity gaming unless you liked looking at slide shows.
a c 106 U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 2:38:58 PM

O.k well that last part is a bit much. The 5670 is good enough to play older games in eyefinity at good detail and some newer games at low detail, but you really want a 5770 at the least if you are even looking at eyefinity.
a c 355 U Graphics card
July 24, 2011 2:52:47 PM

Name141 said:
spending $100 is going to be too heavy on me with the temps over 100F outside in the summer lol.

So I'll just get a 4850 I guess.



Just a word of warning, the HD 4850 runs hot. So I hope you have air conditioning in the room. According to the following review the HD 48xx cards reached 86°C under load. While they did not state the ambient temperature of the room, I'm guessing it's probably around 70°F.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/ati-r...
a c 106 U Graphics card
July 25, 2011 1:16:03 AM

Yeah, forgot about the heat issues with the stock cooler. Of course, they kind of raised the clocks of the 4850 at the last minute to position it against the 9800GTX rather than the 9800GT, so they didn't exactly have time to go back and design a better heatsink for the higher clocks :D 
a b U Graphics card
July 25, 2011 1:22:52 AM

86C. That would actually be quite good. I had a stock cooler 4850. I think it idled at 60-70C and reached 80-90 in games. However if you really maxed it I got it up to nearly 110C. That was in Silent Hunter 4, which had glitchy AA. After that though I got an aftermarket cooler, and it dropped load and idle temps quite a bit (40-60C). I still use that 4850 (using it right now actually). I did get a non-reference 4850 (XFX, their first ATI) and it claims to idle and run much lower (30-50C).
July 25, 2011 3:33:24 AM

At this price, would it be worth while to run two of these or are you just going to be spinning your wheels. Sorry if it's a newbie question.
a c 106 U Graphics card
July 25, 2011 8:30:12 PM

Heck for the price running two seems like a good idea. Just be sure you have good airflow in your case and it should be fine. Even so you may want to go in Catalyst control center and manually set the fans to 100% or 80% in the summer :D 
July 31, 2011 12:52:43 AM

megamanx00 said:
Heck for the price running two seems like a good idea. Just be sure you have good airflow in your case and it should be fine. Even so you may want to go in Catalyst control center and manually set the fans to 100% or 80% in the summer :D 


I just bought a HIS 6750 instead.
a c 106 U Graphics card
July 31, 2011 2:32:34 AM

Good choice. It has lower power usage and slightly better performance than a 6750 in most situations
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