Printer ratings

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Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.

Steve m..

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Is a Corolla a better car than a Maserati? It is cheaper, more reliable and
gets better gas mileage.
Which would you rather have?
This is the mindset of Consumer Reports and has been for decades.
I have rarely agreed with any of their conclusions about technologic gear if
I was knowledeable about the subject.
I will stay with Epson printers. I have a pretty good Canon printer too but
when it dies I have no plans to buy another. And outside of business laser
printers I cannot understand why anyone would buy an HP printer for any
reason whatsoever.

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Frederick wrote:
> Steve m... wrote:
>
>> Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the
>> charts for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom
>> ones are all Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>>
>> Steve m..
>>
> One assumes that these reports are based on printing documents in the
> office, and kid's homework projects. Do you have a serious link to
> confirm the above for photo printing?

Considering the popularity of photo printing these days, I can't imagine
that CR neglected to test this area. But then I didn't see the article.

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In article <k_m4e.15282$7b.3712@trndny05>,
Steve m... <Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.

That seems to be somewhat at odds with received wisodm w.r.t. photo
printers, that being that HP is third in a two horse race.

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In article <d2tm1e$obf$2@nnrp.gol.com>,
David J. Littleboy <davidjl@gol.com> wrote:
>
>"Chris Brown" <cpbrown@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:
>> Steve m... <Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>> >Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the
>charts
>> >for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>> >Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>>
>> That seems to be somewhat at odds with received wisodm w.r.t. photo
>> printers, that being that HP is third in a two horse race.
>
>Yes. But note that both Roger Clark and Rafe B. like their HP printers...

I don't have any recent experience with them, tbh, I was just somewhat
surprised by the claim, as it seems that they've had quite a hill to climb.

OTOH, I just jumped ship from Epson (clog one more time you cretinous
machine, I dare you), to Canon, and am massively impressed by how far things
have moved since my 1290 was "cutting edge", so I suspect that any current
printer from the 3 of them will give reuslts that most people would be
entirely happy with.

The reasons I chose Canon, rather than sticking with Epson, are clogging and
print speed (and damn, this thing is *fast* even without using Firewire),
but mainly clogging. I must admit that I didn't really consider an HP.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:10:08 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , "birdman"
<apquilts@pacbell.net> in
<4Zp4e.9380$FN4.3738@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> wrote:

>Is a Corolla a better car than a Maserati? It is cheaper, more reliable and
>gets better gas mileage.
>Which would you rather have?
>This is the mindset of Consumer Reports and has been for decades.

What? The specification of the job and the testing of the product to
see if it does the job? Yep.

>I have rarely agreed with any of their conclusions about technologic gear if
>I was knowledeable about the subject.

Have you done the kind of cross-product extensive testing? My only
complain has been that the products tend to change so fast that the
reports are out of date.

>I will stay with Epson printers. I have a pretty good Canon printer too but
>when it dies I have no plans to buy another. And outside of business laser
>printers I cannot understand why anyone would buy an HP printer for any
>reason whatsoever.



--
Matt Silberstein

All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:58:45 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
<0e9651l7uovgbrpev9rtm2psr295u6nfsk@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:46:40 GMT, "Steve m..."
><Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>
>I've never found the people doing Consumer Reports to have any idea
>about quality products. I'm sure they would have rated a Kodak Pony
>135 over a Lecia.

How about you complain about something they actually did rather than a
fantasy.


--
Matt Silberstein

All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.

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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:25:05 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
<ahe651t21rt4mh4h28pjnci10jcpvoanqe@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:10:19 GMT, Matt Silberstein
><RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:58:45 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
>>Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
>><0e9651l7uovgbrpev9rtm2psr295u6nfsk@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:46:40 GMT, "Steve m..."
>>><Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>>>>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>>>>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>>>
>>>I've never found the people doing Consumer Reports to have any idea
>>>about quality products. I'm sure they would have rated a Kodak Pony
>>>135 over a Lecia.
>>
>>How about you complain about something they actually did rather than a
>>fantasy.
>
>Vacuum cleaners then....

Ok, what about vacuum cleaners? Did they review them and you disagree?

>Have you no soul for the flights of language. They don't like Jaguars
>but I got one and loved it.

Great. If I remember (I don't particularly read about cars since I
don't want one) they complained about the repair record. That does not
mean no one should buy it nor does it mean that everyone is a lemon.
Jaguar certainly has not had a reputation for reliability.



--
Matt Silberstein

All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:30:51 GMT, Chris Brown
<cpbrown@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:

>The reasons I chose Canon, rather than sticking with Epson, are clogging and
>print speed (and damn, this thing is *fast* even without using Firewire),
>but mainly clogging. I must admit that I didn't really consider an HP.

For me, HP would be out of the running as long as they use all-in-one
color cartridges. My current Epson uses them, and I'm probably going
to be going Canon soon.

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You misspelled the word Jaguar. The correct spelling is Ford.

Matt Silberstein wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:25:05 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
>Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
><ahe651t21rt4mh4h28pjnci10jcpvoanqe@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:10:19 GMT, Matt Silberstein
>><RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:58:45 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
>>>Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
>>><0e9651l7uovgbrpev9rtm2psr295u6nfsk@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:46:40 GMT, "Steve m..."
>>>><Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>>>>>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>>>>>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I've never found the people doing Consumer Reports to have any idea
>>>>about quality products. I'm sure they would have rated a Kodak Pony
>>>>135 over a Lecia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>How about you complain about something they actually did rather than a
>>>fantasy.
>>>
>>>
>>Vacuum cleaners then....
>>
>>
>
>Ok, what about vacuum cleaners? Did they review them and you disagree?
>
>
>
>>Have you no soul for the flights of language. They don't like Jaguars
>>but I got one and loved it.
>>
>>
>
>Great. If I remember (I don't particularly read about cars since I
>don't want one) they complained about the repair record. That does not
>mean no one should buy it nor does it mean that everyone is a lemon.
>Jaguar certainly has not had a reputation for reliability.
>
>
>
>
>

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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:29:38 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:25:05 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
>Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
><ahe651t21rt4mh4h28pjnci10jcpvoanqe@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:10:19 GMT, Matt Silberstein
>><RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:58:45 GMT, in rec.photo.digital , John A.
>>>Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net> in
>>><0e9651l7uovgbrpev9rtm2psr295u6nfsk@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:46:40 GMT, "Steve m..."
>>>><Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>>>>>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>>>>>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>>>>
>>>>I've never found the people doing Consumer Reports to have any idea
>>>>about quality products. I'm sure they would have rated a Kodak Pony
>>>>135 over a Lecia.
>>>
>>>How about you complain about something they actually did rather than a
>>>fantasy.
>>
>>Vacuum cleaners then....
>
>Ok, what about vacuum cleaners? Did they review them and you disagree?

The Dust Devil. Rated it a very best buy. Never work well.

>
>>Have you no soul for the flights of language. They don't like Jaguars
>>but I got one and loved it.
>
>Great. If I remember (I don't particularly read about cars since I
>don't want one) they complained about the repair record. That does not
>mean no one should buy it nor does it mean that everyone is a lemon.
>Jaguar certainly has not had a reputation for reliability.


***********************************************************

"The pig cleaned up his webbing, and he shined his bayonet.
Some people started shooting, so he shot them with regret.
He couldn't work an office, and he couldn't be a clerk
For pigs who like to whistle, like to whistle while they work."

"The Whistling Pig
From Robert Frezza's
"A Small Colonial War"

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:46:40 GMT, in rec.photo.digital RE: Printer
ratings "Steve m..." <Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:

>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>
>Steve m..

That means that HP printers come with lap belts, crash helmets and
won't roll-over or catch fire if your house burns down.

--
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:42:56 -0700, "Frank ess" <frank@fshe2fs.com>
wrote:

>John A. Stovall wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:39:30 GMT, measekite <measekite@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You misspelled the word Jaguar. The correct spelling is Ford.
>>
>> No, it's a Jaguar. Truly British bred and built but now without Lucas
>> electrics.
>>
>>
>> ***********************************************************
>>
>
>Sorry to see you've succumbed to the prescribed (by Ford) delusion.
>
>Lifting up the Jagyouare badge and sliding a different bit of tin under
>it does not result in a "Truly British bred" automobile.

The above tells me you know nothing about Jaguars and their history
and Ford's relationship to the Marque now.

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John A. Stovall wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:42:56 -0700, "Frank ess" <frank@fshe2fs.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>John A. Stovall wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:39:30 GMT, measekite <measekite@yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You misspelled the word Jaguar. The correct spelling is Ford.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>No, it's a Jaguar. Truly British bred and built but now without Lucas
>>>electrics.
>>>
>>>
>>>***********************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Sorry to see you've succumbed to the prescribed (by Ford) delusion.
>>
>>Lifting up the Jagyouare badge and sliding a different bit of tin under
>>it does not result in a "Truly British bred" automobile.
>>
>>
>
>The above tells me you know nothing about Jaguars and their history
>and Ford's relationship to the Marque now.
>
>

It is really a Lincoln LS with a different look.

>
>
>

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Stewy wrote:
> In article <k_m4e.15282$7b.3712@trndny05>,
> "Steve m..." <Stevem5215@PLEASEno_spam_.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hey, anyone see the newest Consumer Reports ? Looks like HP tops the charts
>>for Inkjet printing. 5 out of the top 6 are HP. The bottom ones are all
>>Epson. lol... Canon just below the HP ones.
>>
>
> That may be true in the US. But in Japan Epson and Canon have 85% of the
> printer market sewn up - HP has only a single digit share behind Lexmark.
>
> and the still seem to be making those 3 colours in one cart thingies -
> very expensive printing.

Also very convenient, and ideal for low volume printing, which is
probably why HP is number one is sales in the US. Different market segment.


--
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I like mike, too. I'm on my second Photosmartadn I love it.

mike

"David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> wrote in message
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> Yes. But note that both Roger Clark and Rafe B. like their HP printers...
>
> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan
>
>
>