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Newb building a gaming PC!

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Hello, tom's hardware community. This is my first time ever visiting and posting on this site, so please forgive me if I am doing anything wrong. :)


Alright, fellows. I know how to put all the parts together, but I have no idea what parts to get! :(

My budget would be around $1000-$1800

I want it to be able to handle just about anything I throw at it within ( or a little over) that price range.

I have no preference of parts or stores.

Thanks guys!!

:D

EDIT: Ah, found this guide



Approximate Purchase Date: (this week (the closer the better))


Budget Range: 1000-1800


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, Movies


Parts Not Required: N/A


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: None


Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050


Additional Comments: Nothing really.


Message edited by pooyip on 09-24-2011 at 09:21:08 PM
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*** man for 1800 you can get a kick ass comp. do you have a monitor already? will this budget be for hte computer itself or do you need a keyboard and mouse?

CPU 2600k: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115070

MB GD80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130610

ram 16gb: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233143

video 580: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127567

PSU 1KW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817182239

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133056

cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835186039

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233206

you can drop the i7 to an i5 and get a second 580 for under 1800. having said all this keep in mind there are 2 new platforms coming out very very soon. AMD bulldozer and intels competition. i would strongly suggest waiting until they are out before buying top of the line current gen tech.

you get 2 free games and all this for a total of 1680.00 before shipping.

------------------------------ You are infected, you have to many Spartans in your computer. Get more Persians or buy a new computer. the choice is yours.
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ncc74656 wrote :

*** man for 1800 you can get a kick ass comp. do you have a monitor already? will this budget be for hte computer itself or do you need a keyboard and mouse?

CPU 2600k: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115070

MB GD80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130610

ram 16gb: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233143

video 580: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127567

PSU 1KW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817182239

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133056

cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835186039

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233206

you can drop the i7 to an i5 and get a second 580 for under 1800. having said all this keep in mind there are 2 new platforms coming out very very soon. AMD bulldozer and intels competition. i would strongly suggest waiting until they are out before buying top of the line current gen tech.

you get 2 free games and all this for a total of 1680.00 before shipping.




Thank you very much for responding! I will be getting a new monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but I don't want that included in the budget really.

Reply to pooyip

well there ya have it then. i am a MSI MB fanboy and dont care much for there video cards but pick out what brands you like. i would wait a few weeks to see how the new bulldozer handles against a i7. maybe you will need to switch to amd.

------------------------------ You are infected, you have to many Spartans in your computer. Get more Persians or buy a new computer. the choice is yours.
Reply to ncc74656

^2500K for sure. In gaming it performs almost identically to the 2600K, and you can't get enough graphics hardware on this budget to push into the rare situations where a 2600K would be justified.
With a single 580, you only need around 650W. This Corsair is nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139020
However, if you're going to work in another 580, as ncc mentions as possible above, you'll need 850W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022).
Read the latest Tom's mobo article before you get the MSI board to make sure you aren't going to end up disabling half of its ports. Just don't touch the bottom PCIe x16 slot.
Kinda expensive case.
Why wait for Bulldozer when current chips won't bottleneck your graphics hardware?


Message edited by kajabla on 09-24-2011 at 11:28:13 PM
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i realize its an expensive case but as a place holder its better to go to high than to low for a build suggestion. also i have used thermaltake armor cases for hundreds of comp builds and i LOVE them!. i use this one right now, modified to fit a high end rad of course but still a 3X120 in the front door. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133024

thermaltake offers referbed items on a separate website, i got this case for 150 off due to a large dent on the back of the case. i used a crowbar and hammer and now you cant tell it was ever dented. i just love the steel of the case, the great wire management, the lights and side panel... im very hard on my stuff so having a thick steel case is great for durability.

------------------------------ You are infected, you have to many Spartans in your computer. Get more Persians or buy a new computer. the choice is yours.
Reply to ncc74656

Well, cases are preference anyway. Most will do. OP, look around and see what catches your eye.

Reply to kajabla

yes, internal components first then use a milk crate and zip ties if you must... (ive done this before, makes comps stack quite well)

------------------------------ You are infected, you have to many Spartans in your computer. Get more Persians or buy a new computer. the choice is yours.
Reply to ncc74656

lol
I vote breadboarding onto the bottom of your table/desk, actually. You can put the drives wherever you want.

Reply to kajabla

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

MSI P67A-GD55 (B3)

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler

SILVERSTONE Strider Gold ST1000-G

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM

OCZ Agility Series OCZSSD2-1AGT30G 2.5" 30GB

MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB x2 SLI

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer

Asus ML228H 21.5" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LED Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)

$1755 without rebates and shipping fees.
www.newegg.com

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

30 gig SSD? nah.
Have you read through? We're talking dual 580s here.

Reply to kajabla

30gig ssd as boot drive with 2 gtx 570 sli is more than enough..
and a great monitor too.

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2500k|480 2-way SLi|EVGA Z68 FTW. AMD rig in user system configuration.
Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

he only games at 1600x1050.
and with the new monitor will be at 1920x1080.
gtx 580 sli is overkill for that resolution.

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2500k|480 2-way SLi|EVGA Z68 FTW. AMD rig in user system configuration.
Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

580s won't max some games at 1920x1080, and certainly won't max many in a couple of years.
I agree that a new monitor should enter the build.
30 gigs will do as a boot drive, but the more SSD the better. Load times, launch times for other apps, etc.
Also, 1000W is overkill.


Message edited by kajabla on 09-24-2011 at 11:57:22 PM
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1000watt is not overkill if you consider overclocking and future upgrades...

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2500k|480 2-way SLi|EVGA Z68 FTW. AMD rig in user system configuration.
Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

580's max everything at 1080p

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2500k|480 2-way SLi|EVGA Z68 FTW. AMD rig in user system configuration.
Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

show me a game that 580's cannot max at 1080p....
even 570's do

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2500k|480 2-way SLi|EVGA Z68 FTW. AMD rig in user system configuration.
Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

Crysis 2. Well, 580s kinda max it, but they're all that do.


Message edited by kajabla on 09-25-2011 at 12:08:38 AM
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they max crysis 2 easily lol.
my gtx 480 maxes that game with above 40fps...

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

40 fps is not maxing. 60fps is maxing. I can get 30 fps with my 460, but that doesn't mean I can "max Crysis".

Reply to kajabla

err yes that does mean you can max crysis you fool.
30-60fps in crysis is very playable.

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

however 570 sli will crush crysis 2 and many other titles easily.

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

Semantics aside (the definition of maxing), only SLI 580s can max Crysis with 60fps, which I, along with some (not all) people, consider practically a necessity.
We're talking Crysis 2, not Warhead.


Message edited by kajabla on 09-25-2011 at 12:16:49 AM
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warhead is more demanding than crysis 2 so my point stands.

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
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you posted a benchmark of a single gtx 570 not in sli.

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

Yes, it's playable. The point of my benchmark was the 580s getting a minimum of 40.
Anyway, to get back to the OP (sorry about the discussion), it depends how much money you want to spend. 580s will be good a little longer, but you may think that's worth the extra cash, which is significant ($350-$400).


Message edited by kajabla on 09-25-2011 at 12:19:56 AM
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the above realtime 570 sli crysis 2 vid of dx11 at 1080p says it all. averaging 90fps from what i saw.

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

Huh. So it does. I wonder (not rhetorical at all; I'm being serious) why Tom's came up with such different results.

Reply to kajabla

@ pooyip.
My build is very well put together and upgradable with a 1000watt psu.

 

The motherboard is a solid contender and great for overclocks and has sli and crossfire certification.
The i5 2500k will rip through all of your demanding titles on pc for at least another 3 years including overclocks ect.
The gtx 570 SLi is the most cost effective solution at 1080p as no game will bring these to their knees for a good while.

 

Plus you get a top quality 1920x1080 resolution monitor that is superb for gaming with a wopping 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio and 2ms response time at 22"


Message edited by recon-uk on 09-25-2011 at 12:28:30 AM
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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

1000W PSU for what? More than 2x580? That doesn't need more than 850.

Reply to kajabla

its always best to spend more on your psu than not have enough for the future.

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

GeForce GTX 570 in 2-way SLI

A second card requires you to add another ~225 Watts. You need a 750+ Watt power supply unit if you use it in a high-end system (800+ to a KiloWatt is recommended if you plan on any overclocking).


Source: http://www.guru3d.com/article/gefo [...] -review/13

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

850 to 1KW psu is only like 15 bucks difference, it really does not matter.

my uncrossfired 5870 can max out crysis 2 at 1920X1080 on a 46" screen maxed out dx11... a 580 defiantly can.

a 30gb SSD is a joke... no one should buy that for an os drive... i had to raid-0 3 80GB ssd's just to make a reasonable sized C drive. i would never recommend any less than a 120GB C drive. also i have many clients who have had issues and failures with OCZ drives. as fast as they are in my experience they are just not reliable.

------------------------------ You are infected, you have to many Spartans in your computer. Get more Persians or buy a new computer. the choice is yours.
Reply to ncc74656

slam a 120gb ssd into my build and voila!!

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Notebook: Acer Aspire 5935G|Intel C2D T6600|3GB DDR3|Radeon 4570M
Reply to recon-uk

there were a few select areas that fps droped to about 37,38 but most of the time i was well over 55

regardless i think that 40+fps is enough for a fps to play smooth


Message edited by ncc74656 on 09-25-2011 at 04:21:30 AM
------------------------------ You are infected, you have to many Spartans in your computer. Get more Persians or buy a new computer. the choice is yours.
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Sorry to intervene, but because of the hilariousness of "Newb building a PC" may I suggest Newb Computer Build's gaming pc builds of the month?

http://newbcomputerbuild.com/newb- [...] lds-month/

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^I'm very surprised they went 2600K on such a relatively low budget ($1500). Seems pretty newby :P

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