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September 25, 2011 12:51:44 AM

Hello,
I am making my first build (approximately in one to three months) and i need some advice from experienced builders. I searched around the web and came up with these parts:

Case - Corsair Graphite Series 600T CC600TM Mid-Tower Gaming Case $159,99

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz - $219.99

GPU - EVGA GeForce Gtx 570 SC - $339.99

PSU - Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W - $89.99

Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $51.49

Motherboard - ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - $154.99

CPU Cooler - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus - $39.99

HDD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $74.99

DVD Drive - Already owned.

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM - $109.99

Is there a better option for any of these parts (to save more money with equivalent power)?
Also, is waiting till boxing day worth it (will there be newer or better parts, better deals)?
September 25, 2011 1:20:51 AM

For gaming, the 2600k only has a very very small advantage over the 2500k. Actually they are almost equal, definitely not worth The 100$ difference.

That hdd is slow, get the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb.

For mobo, get the asrock extreme3 gen 3.
September 25, 2011 1:24:27 AM

Thanks for the quick reply.

I'll change the CPU and hdd.

What are the differences between the Motherboards?


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September 25, 2011 1:45:19 AM

The ASRock boards are pretty good, and the Extreme3 Gen3 has most of the standard features - USB 3, SATA III, etc. It supports PCI-E 3.0 with the new Ivy Bridge CPUs. It's also cheaper.

+1 to the F3 and 2500K. Other than that, you'll have a great gaming system on your hands.
September 25, 2011 1:55:52 AM

It won't be cheaper for me due to shipping costs for the Asrock mobo, and i also get rebate for the Asus.

If i consider overclocking in the future, will it be possible with these motherboards?
September 25, 2011 2:19:10 AM

Didn't know you were in Canada ;)  The ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 is about $20-30 cheaper in the USA, and is significantly cheaper than the Asus boards, so in this case I'd go with the Asus board.

As long as you get a P67 or Z68 motherboard you will be able to OC with a 2500K.
September 25, 2011 2:26:12 AM

I thought you would have guessed since all the links were directed to newegg.ca... my bad.

By the way, how much can i OC the 2500k to make it "stable". ( I don't want to fry my first cpu in the first months :sol:  )
September 25, 2011 2:33:58 AM

Well, i guess I'll have to learn the basics of overclocking once i get my system assembled, because right now, I'm a noob. :na: 
September 25, 2011 2:44:08 AM

build3r said:
I thought you would have guessed since all the links were directed to newegg.ca... my bad.

By the way, how much can i OC the 2500k to make it "stable". ( I don't want to fry my first cpu in the first months :sol:  )


Didn't check the links since you had the component names/prices listed. But few people do that, and it's nice when someone does :) 

OCing is getting easier with these new chips, so it shouldn't be too difficult to get started once you get cracking.
September 25, 2011 2:49:51 AM

Well i just hope i don't screw up XD.

Also, is it worth getting the superclocked version of the Gtx 570?

And... how would you compare the Gtx 570 SC with the Radeon 6950 2gb (because you have the 6950 on CrossfireX)?
September 25, 2011 3:31:12 AM

And what about the case? Is there something nicer around that price? (Not the Haf series... i just don't like their design)
September 25, 2011 3:37:46 AM

build3r said:
Well i just hope i don't screw up XD.

Also, is it worth getting the superclocked version of the Gtx 570?

And... how would you compare the Gtx 570 SC with the Radeon 6950 2gb (because you have the 6950 on CrossfireX)?

It depends on what resolution you plan to play at. 1920 x 1080 and below, the 570 should beat the 6950. Above that, the 6950's larger frame buffer will pull ahead. And it supports more than 2 monitors, which is awesome. GTX 570 has PhysX, which you might like depending on what games you'll be playing; it's becoming less important, and AMD has Havok.
September 25, 2011 3:38:26 AM

Sky03 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/188

Pick the gpus ou want and review the comparison.


Thanks.

So i guess the Gtx 570 is better because I'm gonna be gaming on a 1920x1080 resolution.
September 25, 2011 3:42:39 AM

build3r said:
And what about the case? Is there something nicer around that price? (Not the Haf series... i just don't like their design)

I second that. Uuuuugly.

I have the CM 690 II Advanced and love it. Corsair just came out with their Carbide case, review here. There's also the 500R, with a big fan on the side and a fan controller.
September 25, 2011 3:42:51 AM

Nim Chimpsky said:
It depends on what resolution you plan to play at. 1920 x 1080 and below, the 570 should beat the 6950. Above that, the 6950's larger frame buffer will pull ahead. And it supports more than 2 monitors, which is awesome. GTX 570 has PhysX, which you might like depending on what games you'll be playing; it's becoming less important, and AMD has Havok.


Yeah the Gtx 570 will be better for me because i won't use more than 1920 x 1080.

What are the advantages of PhysX against Havok. Which one do you prefer?
September 25, 2011 3:46:18 AM

build3r said:
Yeah the Gtx 570 will be better for me because i won't use more than 1920 x 1080.

What are the advantages of PhysX against Havok. Which one do you prefer?

Havok actually isn't exclusive to AMD, so you don't have to choose.
September 25, 2011 3:47:57 AM

Oh ok
September 25, 2011 3:51:34 AM

Nim Chimpsky said:
I second that. Uuuuugly.

I have the CM 690 II Advanced and love it. Corsair just came out with their Carbide case, review here. There's also the 500R, with a big fan on the side and a fan controller.


The only thing is that i have to pay an extra 30$ for the shipping on those Corsairs if i buy them from newegg.ca.
September 25, 2011 3:53:38 AM

build3r said:
The only thing is that i have to pay an extra 30$ for the shipping on those Corsairs if i buy them from newegg.ca.

Mm, then the CM 690 II. It, like the Carbide, has great fan placement options and a sensible interior. Front USB 3.0 is all it's missing.
September 25, 2011 3:57:32 AM

Nim Chimpsky said:
Mm, then the CM 690 II. It, like the Carbide, has great fan placement options and a sensible interior. Front USB 3.0 is all it's missing.


USB 3.0 doesn't matter to me. Seriously, what are the uses of USB 3.0?

So the CM 690 II Advanced it is.
September 25, 2011 4:42:23 AM

The in-win buc has some nice reviews as well.
September 25, 2011 12:17:49 PM

Sky03 said:
The in-win buc has some nice reviews as well.


It seemed awesome just before i saw the interior yellow ugly rear and top fan and the hdd mounting trays. Such a dumb thing in my opinion.
September 25, 2011 12:25:40 PM

Does anyone know where i could buy an awesome looking fan controller panel and some green or blue led fans. Newegg.ca sells them for 10$+ 10$ shipping...
i can manage to put aside 100$ for accessories later on.
September 25, 2011 11:16:16 PM



I already mentioned that i didn't like the HAF series, thanks though.

Also, i saw some reviews of the Antec dark fleet df-85, and in my opinion, it's too big to be nice. I was thinking more of a mid-tower case.

September 26, 2011 1:50:15 AM

Seagate's drives have gotten pretty bad in recent years. 2-3 years ago, I would have said to go with Seagate, but nowadays I just can't recommend them.

The F3 is also the fastest consumer platter drive, even though it's only running with SATA II because it has the highest platter density.
September 26, 2011 1:57:07 AM

boiler1990 said:
Seagate's drives have gotten pretty bad in recent years. 2-3 years ago, I would have said to go with Seagate, but nowadays I just can't recommend them.

The F3 is also the fastest consumer platter drive, even though it's only running with SATA II because it has the highest platter density.


Ok I'm gonna trust you on this one. $14 isn't much of a deal.
September 26, 2011 2:01:05 AM

There's another thing that bothers me. Why do people pay more money for Asus P8P67 Pro/Evo/Deluxe?

What do they get more than the normal P8P67?
Is it worth the difference?
September 26, 2011 2:12:59 AM

build3r said:
There's another thing that bothers me. Why do people pay more money for Asus P8P67 Pro/Evo/Deluxe?

What do they get more than the normal P8P67?
Is it worth the difference?


You get some extra features (TBH I don't know what they are - haven't ever used an Asus board) with the more expensive models, and sometimes you're paying for extra PCI-E x16 slots and/or lanes (speed).
September 26, 2011 2:33:29 AM

boiler1990 said:
You get some extra features (TBH I don't know what they are - haven't ever used an Asus board) with the more expensive models, and sometimes you're paying for extra PCI-E x16 slots and/or lanes (speed).


So i probably won't use the features on the pro/evo/deluxe models because I'm a new builder.
In the future, will i be able to use two Gtx 570 on SLI?
September 26, 2011 12:12:40 PM

build3r said:
So i probably won't use the features on the pro/evo/deluxe models because I'm a new builder.
In the future, will i be able to use two Gtx 570 on SLI?


As long as you get a board that has 2 PCI Express x16 slots running at a minimum of x8/x8 speeds, you can run SLI. A lot of boards run at x16/x4 though, which will run CrossFire but not SLI.
September 26, 2011 8:48:41 PM

cmadrid said:
The Corsair 600t is a great case, should serve you well. If you want to look at another flashy case check this one out, its also on NCIX

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59195&vpn=BFC-CLS-600-KKL...


As you can see i already choose the Corsair 600t as my case (I always edit the parts on my first post). But thanks anyways.
September 26, 2011 8:52:15 PM

boiler1990 said:
As long as you get a board that has 2 PCI Express x16 slots running at a minimum of x8/x8 speeds, you can run SLI. A lot of boards run at x16/x4 though, which will run CrossFire but not SLI.


Oh well, the Gtx 570 will be good enough until i decide to make a major upgrade.
September 26, 2011 8:58:31 PM

build3r said:
Oh well, the Gtx 570 will be good enough until i decide to make a major upgrade.


Just FYI you'd need at least the Pro model to run SLI. A 570 should be pretty good for several years - I still know people who are running 9800GTXs, 4870x2s, etc.
September 26, 2011 9:08:47 PM

Does anyone know when new GPUs, CPUs, MOBOs and other computer parts usually come out? I don't want to spend a lot of money and then realize that new parts came out and the ones i have are kind of outdated.
September 26, 2011 11:50:48 PM

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MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 Fermi 732MHZ 1280MB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI Video Card

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