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I've been using Artic Silver 5 on CPU and I was going to switch to IC diamond. When I apply the Artic Silver 5 I usually apply a line down the center then lock the fan/heatsink in place. I let the pressure of the heatsink spread the paste and prevent air bubbles. I had read though that IC diamond is different. You put a pea size blob in the center of the CPU then turn on the computer without the heatsink for 10 minutes. This allows liquid in the paste to evaporate. Then you lock the heatsink in place and your done. My concern comes with turning on the computer without a heatsink. I really don't like that and it goes against everything I have ever learned, that is never run a computer without a fan/heatsink. So do you really need to do that and is it safe? This would be for an I5 2500k.

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yes he said he would leave it 10 minutes with the heatsink off to allow whatever chemical thats in the ic

diamond to keep it from setting in the tube to evaporate--the chemical evaporates at room temperature--but no

he didnt say with the pc powered up

look at the case fan--its not spinning

O ok that makes more sense and sounds a lot less dangerous. One more thing. You see the first picture on the IC website link you posted. In the background they have a "ruler" that gives mm measurements. Is there a place to buy that type of ruler. It looks like a good way to measure exact blob sizes.


cant say i have seen a ruler like that before--if you knew what the actual name was i am sure they will have one

cheap on ebay

but quite honestly its easy to do it without one -- if not sure do a trial run--put a pea size blob on--put the

heatsink on--then take the heatsink off to see the coverage

err on the side off a smaller amount till you see how it spreads

then clean it off and do it for real and vary the size off blob based on the coverage of your test run

Slickrick214 said:
O ok that makes more sense and sounds a lot less dangerous. One more thing. You see the first picture on the IC website link you posted. In the background they have a "ruler" that gives mm measurements. Is there a place to buy that type of ruler. It looks like a good way to measure exact blob sizes.

http://www.innovationcooling.com/applicationisnstructions_files/5-5.JPG

It's a drill bit gauge, should be able to find it in any hardware store.

delluser1 said:
It's a drill bit gauge, should be able to find it in any hardware store.


thanks--that made life easier--its hard to find something when you dont know what its called

under £3 on ebay

though still think its easy enough without one

mcnumpty23 said:
thanks--that made life easier--its hard to find something when you dont know what its called

under £3 on ebay

though still think its easy enough without one

Me too, still have the gauge in the desk drawer though ;) 

facepalm---now i think about it theres one built in the lid of my toolbox that flips out

obviously i never use it--everything just gets put up with a 8mm bit and the same size rawl plug

delluser1 said:
It's a drill bit gauge, should be able to find it in any hardware store.


It's actually a draftsman's tool called a "circle template" .... it's from back in the "ole days" before AutoCAD when us engineer types drew plans with pencils and ink on vellum and mylar.

I got a half dozen of em that I bought in the late 60's :)  ....very same one in fact.

http://www.draftingsteals.com/catalog-templates-circles...

Not surprised that manufacturers are "relabeling" and trying to make a buck off the old product .... kudos to american ingenuity !

JackNaylorPE said:
It's actually a draftsman's tool called a "circle template" .... it's from back in the "ole days" before AutoCAD when us engineer types drew plans with pencils and ink on vellum and mylar :) 

I got a half dozen of em that I bought in the late 60's :)  ....very same one in fact.

Won't argue , the one in my drawer says Drill Gauge on it.
PS; I was the guy in the field that had to work off those dwgs.

Regarding IC Diamond, First off be extremely careful removing the compound especially since you're putting it on a 2500K with a 3 year warranty as the diamond will scratch your CPU heat spreader, with much circular motion cleaning it off.

Additionally to get the best cooling from the product takes 50+ clamping pounds of pressure, and some heat sinks do not apply that much pressure, so if you bought it thinking it would give killer results, not all results have been good.

Unfortunately you won't find that information at the IC Diamond website, but an internet search looking for cases of IC Diamond scratches heat spreader, Yields:

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=695748&mpage=1

When the IC Diamond give away took place here at THGF a couple of us experienced the scratching for ourselves, myself included!

Just be careful with it, especially removing it!

Slickrick214 said:
I saw that. I wonder if a water block would apply enough pressure. Also what are the results with a GPU? Also is the etching bad, I mean does it void your warranty does it cause performance issues?


The picture below is a P4 2.66mhz socket 478 before.



Using IC Diamond Compound and a Q-Tip for a 2 minute circular rubdown.



And the fastest lapping award goes to? IC Diamond! (Crowd Goes Wild)



Now what you are looking at I just did, with a Q-Tip and IC Diamond in 2 minutes.
Intel writing is completely gone and the warranty, if this CPU had one.

Not that you or anyone would do that to your new under warranty CPU, but just proving you can actually lap your CPU with IC Diamond.

What the heck! Below is 5 minutes of fingertip rubbing, you can see the copper beginning to show through in the area of the Q-Tip rubbing.



I was going to lap it all the way to full copper face and ran out of IC Diamond. :) 


Thank for the info and photos 4ryan. Got to learn something today.

OP, I'm still old school. I like the more normal pastes, and spread them with a card. As thin as you can all over the IHS. That way you know there are no dead pockets. And yes, NEVER run a PC without its HSF.

To the OP, AS5 is still good thermal compound, it's long cure in time is what's turned most against it, because the newer compounds on the market don't require long cure in times, check out AS5's performance in the Thermal Roundup in my sig, and that was with only a 2hr set in time period.

delluser1 said:
Nice Ryan
Those photos look like my I7-930 did after that giveaway :( 


Yeah I lost my CPU warranty on that give away, once IC Diamond has had time in place clamped under pressure on the CPU it is tough to get off, and not realizing what was happening by the time I discovered the damage it was too late.

4745454b said:
Thank for the info and photos 4ryan. Got to learn something today.

OP, I'm still old school. I like the more normal pastes, and spread them with a card. As thin as you can all over the IHS. That way you know there are no dead pockets. And yes, NEVER run a PC without its HSF.


I'm old school too, you would love Timtronics Grey Ice 4200, it's covered in the Thermal Roundup and has become my favorite TIM above all the others, it spreads almost like the heat spreader is pulling it to itself, far different than a lot of compounds you have to work in place.
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