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September 27, 2011 5:32:09 PM

Hey, I am in the process of building a gaming computer and I plan to add a TV Capture card and multiple monitors in the future. This is my first PC build.

What I already purchased:

This is my monitor
VIZIO 37" LCD TV
http://www.vizio.com/lcd-hdtvs/e370vl.html
And it maxes at 1920 x 1080 pixels

CM Storm Scout
Corsair AX850
Asus ODD
Crucial M4 64GB SSD
WD 1TB Black Caviar HDD



Here is where I would like to here your guys opinions and experiences with the products:

Intel i7-26000K CPU
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

EVGA GTX 590 3GB GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MS Windows 7 Pro 64bit OS

Mushkin 8GB kit DDR3 1600 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair H80 CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Xonas Xense 7.1 Soundcard bundled with Sennheiser PC350 headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I still need to figure out the MOBO. Z68 preferably. ASUS, ASRock, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA!?!?!

What does the community think of my option for CPU Cooler, GPU, and Soundcard?!?

Is the soundcard even worth it or should I stick with onboard mobo sound?!

Thanks everyone. I look forward to some advice! ;) 
September 27, 2011 9:23:44 PM

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September 27, 2011 9:34:04 PM
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my suggestions:

i5-2500K. you won't notice the difference in BF3 between 2500K aand 2600K

GTX 580, the 590 is overkill and mostly a waste of money at 1920x1080.

Go with an air cooler instead of the H80. Noctua DH14 is in the same price range, very good, and not loud. Water cooling is unneccessary with sandy bridge, and air doen't have half the maintenance issues.

Skip the sound card.

I'll suggest this MSI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or This Gigabyte:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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September 27, 2011 11:46:52 PM

I plan on adding 2 more monitors to have 3 all together. Do you still think I shouldn't go with the 590?

I am looking at other CPU coolers now.

Thanks for the MOBO recommendations as well Screwy ;) 
September 28, 2011 12:49:40 PM

if you're gaming across 3 monitors, I'd suggest an SLI 570 pair over a 590.
September 28, 2011 12:59:14 PM

37" 1080p monitor won't look great imo, too few pixels spread over a large area
September 28, 2011 3:33:06 PM

Thanks for the opinion johnners :)  I am actually going to use the 37" exclusively for movies/tv shows/tv tuner if I get one. And for making things big!

Screwy, I plan on adding an additional 2 monitors to the 37" TV, but I will only be looking at one for gaming. I dont even know how I could look at 3 for 1 game, sounds ridiculous. The other monitor will be for monitoring the computer, music, internet and such. I was going to get two 23" monitors or some decent size that my eyes can see the whole screen will sitting back comfortably playing BF3 or GTAIV or the new Tomb Raider when that comes out.

Two GTX 570 in SLI benchmark better than 1 GTX 590?

I have to look into that, but right now I cant until later tonight.

Thanks for the input so far guys, I really appreciate it since I have no one that knows diddly about PCs in my life. :) 
September 28, 2011 8:06:14 PM

the 590 is two underclocked 580s, so 2 570s should be a close match, for a bit less money
September 28, 2011 9:08:28 PM

Ahh I see! Yea I am now considering the 2 GTX 570's in SLI... It'll be maybe $50-100 cheaper... I used http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp and it says 850w PSU will be sufficient.

Am I cutting it close with 850w for GTX 570 SLI? I have the Corsair AX850.

Anyways, if I got the GTX 590 I would have to mod my CM Storm Scout. Which I am capable of doing because I have access to the tools, but the point is it would be another project to do.
September 28, 2011 9:13:57 PM

Really don't need a soundcard at all, and it's a good idea to go 50-100watts above what those say, not all run at their rated wattage.
September 28, 2011 9:28:22 PM

jguerrilla said:
I plan on adding 2 more monitors to have 3 all together. Do you still think I shouldn't go with the 590?

I am looking at other CPU coolers now.

Thanks for the MOBO recommendations as well Screwy ;) 

For three monitors look at either a pair of 6970's or 6950's 2GB or a pair of gtx 580 3GB models.
September 28, 2011 9:30:07 PM

the corsair 850W is an 80+ Gold modular with 70 amps on the 12v rails. It'll do just fine
September 29, 2011 11:28:28 AM

GTX 580 SLI = $1160 whaaamp whaaaah. I think I'd rather stick to 1 GTX 590 or GTX 570 SLI over GTX 580 SLI in terms of money.

The Z68 motherboards also have the intel intergrated graphics which I figure I can put one monitor on, most like the 37" Vizio which serves for as a TV for viewing videos. And I am not crazy about video quality of movies and tv shows, but I want amazing graphics for gaming.

Thanks again Screwy for the info on the Corsair 850W.

I am really trying to figure out a mobo for this whole thing now. Perferrably Z68 with 2 or more PCIx 2.0, at least 1 PCIx1 and 1 PCI.

I know PCI is going out of style but I would like it there in case I add something and it's only PCI.

PS/2 vs USB, is the only real benefit if your keyboard doesn't work in the BIOS, PS/2 will always work? And for key roll over, if you need to hit 6 or more keys at the same time for some odd reason?
September 29, 2011 4:23:35 PM

PS2 is better for multiple keystrokes, but USB isn't horrid or anything.


this motherboard should fit your needs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

its got 2 PCIe x16 (at x8/x8 in crossfire/SLI), 3 PCie X1 (at least 2 will be open even with 2-slot GPUs) and 2 PCI (at least 1 will be open with 2-slot GPUs)
September 29, 2011 4:38:23 PM

Thanks, Screwy, you the man!

I will select you as the best answer indefinitely for the help and input you have provided me, but I would like to keep the conversation going.

Do you have any personal experience with MSI and how is their BIOS if so?

I do want to overclock.

And you really think I should skip a sound card? How does on-board compare to discrete? I am an avid music listener.
September 29, 2011 4:46:50 PM

if you have the money to burn then gtx 580 sli is the better choice for bf3... otherwise a step down to gtx 570 sli will do the job well while saving you money.... i found this on newegg being the cheapest while maintaining good review...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x sparkle gtx 570 - $630

as for motherboard... the asrock model is very good value for money... it gives you pcie gen 3.0 while having sli support.... sets you around $125...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


September 29, 2011 4:50:56 PM

MSI is a 'middleweight' Motherboard maker. Good stuff for the money.

My favorite is AS Rock, but the board I listed there from MSI is the least expensive board with the features you want, from a company I'd actually trust for decent quality.
September 29, 2011 4:52:11 PM

using i5 2500k for gaming gives you same results compared to when you're using i7 2600k while the former cheaper than the latter...
September 29, 2011 4:56:50 PM

Hyperthreading might help in maybe BF4. :) 

i7 2600K
EVGA GTX 590
4x4GB DDR3 1866 (Corsair or Gskill)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB.
Western Digital drives are costlier and slower.
For GTX 590 SLI : OCZ ZX Series 1000W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Gold
HAF X is a nice case.
September 29, 2011 5:02:17 PM

Yea I thought that i5-2500k doesn't have hyperthreading and 2600k does?

Phenom 90, if you could buy the 2500k or 2600k and money was not an issue, which one would you pick? :) 

Thanks for the input 008rohit. And what motherboard would you go with, easy to overclock for beginners?
September 29, 2011 5:03:01 PM

What Screwy, what ASRock mobo would you get if you were me!?! :) 
September 29, 2011 5:53:04 PM

Games don't use hyperthreading? say that current games don't utilise more than 4 threads.

@ OP

Imagine four men with two hands each. Now, place BF3 in there. it needs 4 hands. now in case of i5, four person will run BF3 with one hand each. in case of i7, 4 man will run it with a single hand each, too..

but, say, BF4 will utilise 8 threads. then, i7's four men will run it with both their hands while i5's men will run it with a single hand each inspite of having the same power!

I hope I was able to explain it.

I recommend ASRock Extreme4 Gen3 Z68. PCIe 3.0 slots, Ivy Bridge upgradbility, all solid capacitors, easy overclocking.
September 29, 2011 9:43:59 PM

jguerrilla said:
GTX 580 SLI = $1160 whaaamp whaaaah. I think I'd rather stick to 1 GTX 590 or GTX 570 SLI over GTX 580 SLI in terms of money.

Listen to Why_Me. If you're not getting 580 SLI, 6950 2GB/6970 CrossFire is what you want for 3 monitors.
September 29, 2011 9:48:52 PM

008Rohit said:
Imagine four men with two hands each. Now, place BF3 in there. it needs 4 hands. now in case of i5, four person will run BF3 with one hand each. in case of i7, 4 man will run it with a single hand each, too..

but, say, BF4 will utilise 8 threads. then, i7's four men will run it with both their hands while i5's men will run it with a single hand each inspite of having the same power!

I hope I was able to explain it.

I recommend ASRock Extreme4 Gen3 Z68. PCIe 3.0 slots, Ivy Bridge upgradbility, all solid capacitors, easy overclocking.

If you're recommending Ivy Bridge upgradeability, there is no reason to get an i7-2600K for a game no one is even talking about yet. Even Ivy Bridge will probably be obsolete by the time there's a BF4.
September 30, 2011 4:08:54 PM

jguerrilla said:
Yea I thought that i5-2500k doesn't have hyperthreading and 2600k does?

Phenom 90, if you could buy the 2500k or 2600k and money was not an issue, which one would you pick? :) 

Thanks for the input 008rohit. And what motherboard would you go with, easy to overclock for beginners?




i would still go for i5 2500k...
October 10, 2011 4:07:19 AM

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