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First Home Build and no P.O.S.T.

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September 28, 2011 3:01:12 AM

My Specs are
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8 GB
MSI 890FXA-GD65 Motherboard
Nvidia 650 graphics card,
AMD Phenom II X4 processor.
640 Western Digital Hard drive
Apenma 500 WAT power supply

I put it all together and it seems to be running fine but it does not enter POST, there is no beep. The video card and all the fans are running fine so I'm pretty sure its not the power supply. I have taken out the RAM, put it in the MOBO in different orders, and still the same thing. I have added and removed hard drives, optical drives, USB devices, basically everything other sites have told me to do about this but nothing seems to work. The processor is in correctly so is the video card. I have tried everything I could think out.

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a b B Homebuilt system
September 28, 2011 3:07:24 AM

Check the faq troubleshooter sticky at the top of this section, you may have overlooked something minor like cpu power line, I'll check back later from pc
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a c 122 B Homebuilt system
September 28, 2011 4:04:57 AM

Even with the fans running, your problem could still be the PSU.

Work systematically through our standard checklist and troubleshooting thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...
I mean work through, not just read over it. We spent a lot of time on this. It should find most of the problems.

If no luck, continue.

The following is an expansion of my troubleshooting tips in the breadboarding link in the "Cannot boot" thread.

I have tested the following beep patterns on Gigabyte, eVGA, and ECS motherboards. Other BIOS' may be different, but they all use a single short beep for a successful POST.

Breadboard - that will help isolate any kind of case problem you might have.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262730-31-breadboardi...

Breadboard with just motherboard, CPU & HSF, case speaker, and PSU.

Make sure you plug the CPU power cable in. The system will not boot without it.

I always breadboard a new build. It takes only a few minutes, and you know you are putting good parts in the case once you are finished.

You can turn on the PC by momentarily shorting the two pins that the case power switch goes to. You should hear a series of long, single beeps indicating memory problems. Silence indicates a problem with (in most likely order) the PSU, motherboard, or CPU. Remember, at this time, you do not have a graphics card installed so the load on your PSU will be reduced.

If no beeps:
Running fans and drives and motherboard LED's do not necessarily indicate a good PSU. In the absence of a single short beep, they also do not indicate that the system is booting.

At this point, you can sort of check the PSU. Try to borrow a known good PSU of around 550 - 600 watts. That will power just about any system with a single GPU. If you cannot do that, use a DMM to measure the voltages. Measure between the colored wires and either chassis ground or the black wires. Yellow wires should be 12 volts. Red wires: +5 volts, orange wires: +3.3 volts, blue wire : -12 volts, violet wire (standby power supply): 5 volts always on. The green wire should also have 5 volts on it. It should go to 0 volts when you press the case power button, then back to 5 volts when you release the case power switch. Tolerances are +/- 5% except for the -12 volts which is +/- 10%.

The gray wire is really important. It should go from 0 to +5 volts when you turn the PSU on with the case switch. CPU needs this signal to boot.

You can turn on the PSU by completely disconnecting the PSU and using a paperclip or jumper wire to short the green wire to one of the neighboring black wires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4&feature=yout...

A way that might be easier is to use the main power plug. Working from the back of the plug where the wires come out, use a bare paperclip to short between the green wire and one of the neighboring black wires. That will do the same thing with an installed PSU. It is also an easy way to bypass a questionable case power switch.

This checks the PSU under no load conditions, so it is not completely reliable. But if it can not pass this, it is dead. Then repeat the checks with the PSU plugged into the computer to put a load on the PSU.

If the system beeps:
If it looks like the PSU is good, install a memory stick. Boot. Beep pattern should change to one long and several short beeps indicating a missing graphics card.

Silence, long single beeps, or series of short beeps indicate a problem with the memory. If you get short beeps verify that the memory is in the appropriate motherboard slots.

Insert the video card and connect any necessary PCIe power connectors. Boot. At this point, the system should POST successfully (a single short beep). Notice that you do not need keyboard, mouse, monitor, or drives to successfully POST.
At this point, if the system doesn't work, it's either the video card or an inadequate PSU. Or rarely - the motherboard's PCIe interface.

Now start connecting the rest of the devices starting with the monitor, then keyboard and mouse, then the rest of the devices, testing after each step. It's possible that you can pass the POST with a defective video card. The POST routines can only check the video interface. It cannot check the internal parts of the video card.
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 28, 2011 4:22:27 AM

Thanks for linking it J, can't C&p from phone :-)
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September 28, 2011 9:59:23 AM

Instead of going through your graphics card try using onboard VGA to see if you get a display?

I cant see this being the reason you have no POST however.

Usually no POST is down to PSU and mobo issues, especially as you have tried the ram in each slot.

Check that ^ for PSU issue
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 28, 2011 10:07:31 AM

I cant seem to Id that graphics card, can you check the model number again please?
and No Lewza, its an Fx model, no onboard :( 
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