New 3930k - No CPU cooler. Did i just fry my CPU?

New 3930k - No CPU cooler. Did i just fry my CPU?
hi all,

I appreciate any help Please

Im a big newb at PC building. Bought a pre-built X79 barbones.

Got it today installed Ram/Gfx card.

Was going to install a easy liquid cooling system for 3930k soon, after i updated bios and made sure system Posted. Or i
would have to return it soon. (30 days)

had to install wireless adaptor to update bios so I started the computer up. Only to install Netgear's Software off CD.

Entered Bios, computer turned off on its own after 2 mins. Again tryed, computer turned off after a few mins.

Booted into WIndows to load Netgear's software. Computer shut off 2/3rds way thru install or 3-5 mins total with power on.

Smelled burning after it shut its self off when i stuck my nose 1 foot from case. Was not to to strong of burning smell... but distinctive.

Opened Case. CPU felt very hot to touch. Would burn my finger if i had keeped it there more than 1-2 seconds. So yea hot!

Im guessing the safety feature was kicking in yea? Is my Motherboard or CPU damaged prolly?

I thought CPU Solutions.com who i bought it from did a 24-hour burn in test. Guess not..

Did i just do a really stupid?


3930k
BIOS 703 Asus Rampage IV
16gig Corsair Dominator GT 2133 (not set yet)
1200 high Current Pro Corsair 1200 PSU
Windows 7 64bit
9800GT (waiting for AMD 7970's)
haf-x 942 case
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  1. Looks like you possibly fried your stuff.... :( Never use your computer without a heatsink.
  2. I think you fried it didn't it come with a stock heat sink?
  3. daza7 said:
    I think you fried it didn't it come with a stock heat sink?

    The 3930k and 3960x both do not come with coolers.
  4. Ive not tryed turning it back on. U can't even turn on a CPU without cooling it with a device?

    Im scared.. Didnt the motherboards "to hot" safety feature save me in time by shutting off computer? I hear if it hits 91C temp it throttles or something..

    Is the 3930k fryed or Motherboard fryed. u think?

    Thanks for any help..
  5. You may have been spared by it's auto thermal shut off yes. Though NEVER EVER EVER power on a computer without having a heatsink of some sort firmly seated with a thin layer of thermal compound. NEVER! Quite possibly the biggest no no on the subject of computer building.
  6. I took the CPU out and after inspecting I could not see any burn marks. And the smell is very faint and seems to be coming from behind the CPU.

    Think Motherboard is ok still atleast?

    Thanks! Im so sad and dumb.
  7. You will know when you get a new heatsink to test it out. Cross your fingers. If you have issues start a new thread from there. Also, your machine will not boot up without memory as well, for future notice. I'm surprised you were able to enter the bios.
  8. Don't worry it's just heat. What would've been stupid was to overclock and overvolt without a cooler. Just don't do it again.
  9. fit a cooler and turn it on to see if you did any real damage... its likley that you have fried something. thing is if the firm sold you a working barebones then they should have provided cooling so they may actually be responsible for it dying. try accusing em and after the big argument. meet em half way on repair cost.
  10. I installed the memory and graphics card..

    I think they tested it with a cooler for 24 hour burn in.


    Do you think this has damaged motherboard or only CPU?


    Yes my Corsair h100 will be here soon.

    I thought it should turn off auto to keep this from happening! :cry:
  11. Man. Everybody is a noob once, and every noob has a noob story.

    Mine happened in 1999 when I installed a lovely new AMD K6 III in my computer. It was a planned upgrade and I'd bought a new motherboard a few months earlier, carefully chosen so it would be able to take my current CPU - a Pentium 200MMX - and the K6 III. (As an aside, it seems bizarre that a chipset was capable of accommodating an AMD and an Intel CPU and didn't care which. This was socket 7 - the last socket that could).

    The K6 III required a mobo that could offer a split voltage between I/O and VCORE. You set VCORE with jumpers and the mobo would do the rest.

    Well, I misread the voltage settings, accidentally setting VCORE at the I/O level. The result? Post for a few seconds... then DEAD. I'd fried the CPU. I was lucky though as the shop exchanged it.

    Seriously though, never ever run computer components without cooling. They are only designed to work with cooling, and the various safety systems they have in place aren't designed to deal with the scenario where there is no cooling at all.

    These CPUs generate 100 Watts of heat. Imagine a 100 Watt lightbulb and think how hot it gets. The filament gets white hot and over 1000 degrees. It's designed to withstand such temperatures - the filament is made of tungsten and surrounded by inert gas. A CPU would easily generate such temps if you didn't cool them - though in fact the silicon would melt long before you got there.

    The safety cutoff mechanisms are designed to cope with a certain rate of increase in temperature, but probably don't account for the scenario where cooling isn't there. I imagine the temperature could increase so quickly that the damage is done before the cutoff has a chance to kick in.

    Cooling is a given.
  12. Most motherboards these days detect wether or not a CPU Cooler is present - I know mine did when I forgot to plug my CPU Cooler back in after a reseat...oops. It refused to boot and shutdown immediatley - no damage was done (Although I at least had a heatsink for those few seconds, not just a heatspreader O.o)

    I hope for your sake it will be okay. Things like this put people off building PCs. My first PC was a disaster - I forgot to use risers for the motherboard and shorted the whole thing out. Fortunatly that was a simple mistake to learn from :P

    Good luck!
  13. As others have said, it's a tough lesson to learn.
  14. the thermal shut off may have prevented death, good luck. I'm not going to repeat what others have said, never run without a heat sink.
    In your mobo manual what did it say about installing the processor and the heatsink?
  15. At least you learned a lesson. Whether or not it's an expensive lesson remains to be seen.
  16. deadjon said:
    My first PC was a disaster - I forgot to use risers for the motherboard and shorted the whole thing out. Fortunatly that was a simple mistake to learn from :P



    I did that too! My mobo shorted, but seemed to work fine when properly insulated. I didn't know about risers though and figuring the problem was shorting, I laid it on a bed of polystyrene. Alright then, I have two noob stories.
  17. I got thermal compound on the die on my first solo build years ago, back before they had the coverings and you had to shim. Was freeeeeeaking out it wouldn't boot. My pop grabbed some rubbing alcohol and a q-tip and squared it away. Was bummed cause I wanted to show him i could do it on my own at the time, though at least he saved my behind on that one :)
  18. Before you spend that amount of money why don't you look into your hardware, how it install it and so forth.
  19. majorgibly said:
    Before you spend that amount of money why don't you look into your hardware, how it install it and so forth.


    You're right of course but that's the thing when you're a noob. You don't know what you don't know.
  20. bwrlane said:
    You're right of course but that's the thing when you're a noob. You don't know what you don't know.


    When I built my first rig I had no clue, not even how to build it. So I spent 3 weeks learning, watching videos, reading books. Turns out my first rig went without a hitch. When your a 'noob' thats what you should do, but for some reason people thing they can buy all this hardware refer to the manual once and be done with it. When I build computers now I read everything at least 3 times before the build so I know what's going on. Hate to say it, 'better safe than sorry.'
  21. it might aswell be a paper weight now sunshine.

    as we say at work is FCUKED and not work jack. noboy runs anything without a cooler on it CPU or GPU.
  22. That's an expensive lesson. Hope you didn't do any permanent damage.

    On the topic of cooling the 3930k, is there any general consensus on a decent cooler, since it doesn't come with a stock one? I've seen a lot of sales for liquid cooling it, but I'm really hesitant to go that route. If I'm not planning on overclocking the thing significantly, then could I get away with an air cooled solution?
  23. We have a couple coolers that you can buy for the Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, they are RTS2011AC (air cooler) and the RTS2011LC (sealed water cooler). Otherwise most of the other major coolers have released a support for socket 2011 including the Cooler Master hyper 212+.

    The Intel Core i7-3930K (all of the 2nd generation Intel Core processors) has a feature called thermtrip that is the final shut off at 125c. So good news is that you most likely didnt fry the processor. Bad news is that you may have damaged something else.

    Christian Wood
    Intel Enthusiast Team
  24. Thanks Intel!

    Now if only we could get stock up in Canada to purchase one of these 3930k's. :)
  25. It isnt just Canada that can't get any of these right now, there is a world wide shortage. The maybe a "trickle" showing up at some OLR (Online Retailers) towards the end of this month and early next month but it is going to be a while before the shortage is over.

    Christian Wood
    Intel Enthusiast Team
  26. It is very possible that you fried your CPU. Intel is usually pretty good with overheat protection, but your CPU could hit as high as 100*C before the system might have actually shut off. Keep in mind even if it does still work, it is very possible that you could have damaged the CPU.

    My question is, if you're a complete noob why the hell are you building an enthusiast platform? I mean only people who really need this hardware should be dumping money into it and if this is just to "build your first computer," you really need to start from the beginning. I think you need to learn about what you're doing instead of just throwing stuff together...
  27. what about to see if it will just post cuz im building a new system and i wanted to see if all my parts work b4 putting it into the case.. and b4 putting on the heat sink. could i turn it on with out my hyper 212 installed on it?
  28. Wow this is such a sad story lol
  29. we all have noob stories though. Sadly mine had something to do with a PSU and a little switch appropriately named 110/220V
  30. Holy smokes bro sounds like you definately did some damage. Even if that thing somehow powered back up I woudl personally return it and try to get a new one. I'm sure you did some permenant damage that will rear its ugly head over time even if the machine did turn on.

    Your mistake was waiting to apply a heatsink. You NEVER power up a PC w/o a heatsink. Not even for a second. Applyuing a heatsink is the FIRST thing you do always no exception
  31. bigj1985 said:
    Holy smokes bro sounds like you definately did some damage. Even if that thing somehow powered back up I woudl personally return it and try to get a new one. I'm sure you did some permenant damage that will rear its ugly head over time even if the machine did turn on.

    Your mistake was waiting to apply a heatsink. You NEVER power up a PC w/o a heatsink. Not even for a second. Applyuing a heatsink is the FIRST thing you do always no exception
    Why are you trying to scare the OP? I doubt the CPU was damaged as it shut down before getting too hot. It would obviously have been different 15 years ago.
  32. GhislainG said:
    bigj1985 said:
    Holy smokes bro sounds like you definately did some damage. Even if that thing somehow powered back up I woudl personally return it and try to get a new one. I'm sure you did some permenant damage that will rear its ugly head over time even if the machine did turn on.

    Your mistake was waiting to apply a heatsink. You NEVER power up a PC w/o a heatsink. Not even for a second. Applyuing a heatsink is the FIRST thing you do always no exception
    Why are you trying to scare the OP? I doubt the CPU was damaged as it shut down before getting too hot. It would obviously have been different 15 years ago.



    I'm not. But if he is able to return the possibly damaged processor I would do it in a heartbeat. He stated he smelled burning transistors so ya I would say that thing is most likely fried. i wish him good luck
  33. bigj1985 said:
    GhislainG said:
    bigj1985 said:
    Holy smokes bro sounds like you definately did some damage. Even if that thing somehow powered back up I woudl personally return it and try to get a new one. I'm sure you did some permenant damage that will rear its ugly head over time even if the machine did turn on.

    Your mistake was waiting to apply a heatsink. You NEVER power up a PC w/o a heatsink. Not even for a second. Applyuing a heatsink is the FIRST thing you do always no exception
    Why are you trying to scare the OP? I doubt the CPU was damaged as it shut down before getting too hot. It would obviously have been different 15 years ago.



    I'm not. But if he is able to return the possibly damaged processor I would do it in a heartbeat. He stated he smelled burning transistors so ya I would say that thing is most likely fried. i wish him good luck


    This all happened more than a year ago :)
  34. Quote:
    I'm not. But if he is able to return the possibly damaged processor I would do it in a heartbeat. He stated he smelled burning transistors so ya I would say that thing is most likely fried. i wish him good luck
    An HSF that falls off during transportation would have the same effect, but I have yet to hear from someone who had a failed processor for that reason in the last 10 years. Most new motherboards smell burning when the voltage regulators heat up for the first time, but that isn't a concern.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRn8ri9tKf8&mode=related&search= That no longer occurs, even with AMD processors.
  35. keith808 said:
    what about to see if it will just post cuz im building a new system and i wanted to see if all my parts work b4 putting it into the case.. and b4 putting on the heat sink. could i turn it on with out my hyper 212 installed on it?


    No, keith, idiot, just put the damn cooler on. You won't have to take it off when putting it in the case.
  36. Thanks again for your help.
  37. I think the PCB board which is what the motherboard is made of is what you were smelling. I think you should be alright. If not most parts come with a long manufacturers warranty your cpu should be 3 years and the motherboard should be 3 maybe 5 years.
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