Chosing Operating System Help!!!!!!!!

Hello,

I'm looking on building a new computer to be used as a gaming rig. Looking at the operating systems available makes me very confused. I'm not going to buy xp for it doesn't support DX11, however i need some knowledge towards 7 and vista.

1) For a new rig with a first fresh install, should i purchase an oem or retail os?

2) I was looking at vista retail and its a lot cheaper than 7 retail. Is service pack 2 for vista free...if so whats so different from windows 7?

3)If i buy and oem os can i later install a full retail os in the future..if so then how?

Please help me out with these questions and feel free to leave any more additional input!!!

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Reply to gaminglappy

Why would you even consider Vista, it's like 6yrs old?

You want Windows 7 64bit (assuming you have a 64bit cpu). It's $80 for the OEM at Newegg.com

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Forget about Vista, it's not buggy, but there are a lot of annoying things that were fixed in Windows 7.

As for OEM vs Retail, the difference is that OEM is tied to the motherboard, it isn't transferable; if you change MB, you are supposed to get a new license. With a Retail version, you can uninstall it from one PC and install it on another. If you think you might upgrade or change your PC in the next 1-2 years, Retail could be better, otherwise OEM is usually more than enough. Might be worth it to know that Windows 8 will be released next year too...

As for the different versions of Windows 7, most people only need Home Premium, Pro adds support for Virtual PC, joining domains and receive remote desktop connections, Ultimate adds HDD encryption and language pack support.

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All Windoze O/S's are Buggy so the only question is which one will crash your PC today?

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Zenthar wrote :

Forget about Vista, it's not buggy, but there are a lot of annoying things that were fixed in Windows 7.

As for OEM vs Retail, the difference is that OEM is tied to the motherboard, it isn't transferable; if you change MB, you are supposed to get a new license. With a Retail version, you can uninstall it from one PC and install it on another. If you think you might upgrade or change your PC in the next 1-2 years, Retail could be better, otherwise OEM is usually more than enough. Might be worth it to know that Windows 8 will be released next year too...

As for the different versions of Windows 7, most people only need Home Premium, Pro adds support for Virtual PC, joining domains and receive remote desktop connections, Ultimate adds HDD encryption and language pack support.

What if your mobo breaks and you get a replacement? Are you supposed to get another oem copy?

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gaminglappy wrote :

Hello,

I'm looking on building a new computer to be used as a gaming rig. Looking at the operating systems available makes me very confused. I'm not going to buy xp for it doesn't support DX11, however i need some knowledge towards 7 and vista.

1) For a new rig with a first fresh install, should i purchase an oem or retail os?

2) I was looking at vista retail and its a lot cheaper than 7 retail. Is service pack 2 for vista free...if so whats so different from windows 7?

3)If i buy and oem os can i later install a full retail os in the future..if so then how?

Please help me out with these questions and feel free to leave any more additional input!!!

Wait, as per my knowledge, even Vista doesn't support Dx11.
If you want it, go for Windows 7 only...

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Reply to Chirag Borawake

I would say go for Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit. It is the best version for home users and gaming. Pro and Ultimate is more for business.

Reply to Rizlla

Yes, and Windows 7 Ultimate would be costly too..!!

Reply to Chirag Borawake

Sky03 wrote :

What if your mobo breaks and you get a replacement? Are you supposed to get another oem copy?

That is the "loophole"; many people said that if you call Microsoft and tell them just that (your MB broke and had to change it), they will give you another activation key so you are "safe" on that front, but you will have to call Microsoft (if you get the same motherboard model, you might not need to reactivate, not sure). If you pretend it broke so you can upgrade, it will probably work too, but it is against the EULA.

Reply to Zenthar

Chirag Borawake wrote :

Wait, as per my knowledge, even Vista doesn't support Dx11.
If you want it, go for Windows 7 only...

Vista came with DX10, but I think it is upgradable to DX11. However, Vista's UAC was so annoying that this alone is a reason I would never go back to it.

Reply to Zenthar

you could also get linux

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9_Breaker wrote :

you could also get linux

For any kind of "serious gaming" Linux is not the best option.

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Reply to Zenthar

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 for sure!
It's practically designed for gaming, easily the most widespread gaming OS and Steams hardware surveys confirm that with 41% using Windows 7 64bit followed by Windows XP 32bit @ only 18%

Vista isn't as bad as people make it out to be, has the DirectX10/11 support but has many bugs and problems that Windows 7 has stamped out

XP is better on systems with 1GB ram or less but lacks DirectX10/11 ability and looks fairly retro.

Linux is a great OS for the advanced user, very low requirements using certain distro's but lets face it, the learning curb is ridiculous and gaming compatibility knocks this OS out of the decision.

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beenthere wrote :

All Windoze O/S's are Buggy so the only question is which one will crash your PC today?

I guess if your a noob and have no idea what your doing, then yeah. I have Vista, I cant remember the last time my PC crashed, maybe years.

In fact I've had every version of windows since windows 95 (except 7)and Vista is by far the best one I've ever had, no doubt.

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If you replace your motherboard it's no big deal with a OEM version.

I installed it on 3 different mobo's before I got the prompt to call MIcrosoft. I didn't have to lie or make up crap, I didn't even have to talk to anybody. I just called the number on the screen, got my code, and that was it. 2 minutes.

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Zenthar wrote :

For any kind of "serious gaming" Linux is not the best option.

If casual/indie is the OP's thing, he should be fine.

Linux game support is definately up!

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Reply to amdfangirl

geekapproved wrote :

I guess if your a noob and have no idea what your doing, then yeah. I have Vista, I cant remember the last time my PC crashed, maybe years.

In fact I've had every version of windows since windows 95 (except 7)and Vista is by far the best one I've ever had, no doubt.

Not even CLOSE to being a noob... I was using DOS before Dollar Bill Gates built his illegal empire with Windoze. By Microsuck's own admission each version of Windoze has tens of thousands of Bugs due to defectively written code. I do not care what O/S people use, I was just making a joke because all Windoze O/Ss are Buggy yet people continue to buy them and that is why Microsucks continues to reap fortunes from selling defective goods.

You must be a youngin' if your first taste of Windoze is Win 95.

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beenthere wrote :

Not even CLOSE to being a noob... I was using DOS before Dollar Bill Gates built his illegal empire with Windoze. By Microsuck's own admission each version of Windoze has tens of thousands of Bugs due to defectively written code. I do not care what O/S people use, I was just making a joke because all Windoze O/Ss are Buggy yet people continue to buy them and that is why Microsucks continues to reap fortunes from selling defective goods.

You must be a youngin' if your first taste of Windoze is Win 95.

Meh, I had linux boxes self-destruct with yum updates as well, but I do pray for a day I wouldn't need Windows anymore, I like the extra control linux gives and the much more powerful CLI.

Reply to Zenthar

Anyone can write bad code... it doesn't take much effort. Linux has potential but it's not user friendly, it's a geek's O/S. That's why Microsucks has succeeded with crap once they had an installed base.

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beenthere wrote :

Anyone can write bad code... it doesn't take much effort. Linux has potential but it's not user friendly, it's a geek's O/S. That's why Microsucks has succeeded with crap once they had an installed base.

OK I we it you don't like MS. How are you helping the guy select an os for mainly gaming. Your not you are fanboy of Linux. :pfff: Go with win7 64 you will be happy.

Reply to christop

As I stated I don't care what O/S people use. Many people prefer XP over all Microsucks O/S's. It just depends on your needs and POV.

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Zenthar wrote :

For any kind of "serious gaming" Linux is not the best option.

you just have to know how to use it.
you could use cadega to play games and it still uses direct x.

Reply to 9_Breaker

But it would lagg.

Lagg beyond any scale.

Do it the easy way. Get Windows.

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Reply to amdfangirl

amdfangirl wrote :

But it would lagg.

Lagg beyond any scale.

Do it the easy way. Get Windows.

explain how

Reply to 9_Breaker

It's not software you would call well optimised if it fails to run most games.

http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/game [...] l?letter=A

For example, the lack of support extends so far that it cannot play ancient games.

I have no idea why it laggs, but I have tested a signifigant drop in fps, Windows 7 64bit vs. Linux in games like Team Fortress 2. Only got 1/2 or 1/3 of my framerate. Granted, it was still playable.

I can only make assumptions.

From what I gather it supports up to Direct X 9 and Shader Model 2.0.

But this is from Wikipedia.

GIven you have to pay for this software on a subscription basis, why not Windows?

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beenthere wrote :

Not even CLOSE to being a noob... I was using DOS before Dollar Bill Gates built his illegal empire with Windoze. By Microsuck's own admission each version of Windoze has tens of thousands of Bugs due to defectively written code. I do not care what O/S people use, I was just making a joke because all Windoze O/Ss are Buggy yet people continue to buy them and that is why Microsucks continues to reap fortunes from selling defective goods.

You must be a youngin' if your first taste of Windoze is Win 95.

If you consider 40 a youngin', then yes I am.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. I never said my first taste of Windows was 95. I said "I have owned every version since 1995".

I used DOS for many years too.

I guess if you aren't knowledgeable enough, you would have all the problems your referring to. But I don't.

Like I said, I have no bugs, no issues with crashing. Can't remember the last crash I had.

Maybe your lack of use is your reason for your issues.

Sorry some hater ruined your post OP, there's always one in every thread.

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Reply to geekapproved

I was only around during Windows 98 SE ...

That's early for my age group.

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Reply to amdfangirl

Greetings! i feel the need to echo all the people here. forget about vista. Its annyoing and buggy. if you want the best go with windows 7. Windows 7 is a lot less secure than vista, but 7 is so much faster and allows you (in most cases) to do everything you need to do. Now you said you wanted a gaming rig so i have some ideas for you. i dont know what your buget is but if you want the best heres my thoght: Go with a Nevia Geforce 5800 Graphics card. it will run you 600$ but the graphic on it are amazing. it makes minecraft look good! (true story) i would also reccommend having at least 5 gigs of RAM. i hope this helped.

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Please do not respond to old threads.

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