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Replaceing 8800 GTX. $300ish, I'm clueless

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July 29, 2011 7:38:26 PM

Hi... I actually have another thread that I started to find out if my 8800 was totally fried or not. Turns out that it is so I started asking about what to replace it with. I decided to start this new topic in the hopes of better addressing the specific question of what to buy.

Price range is flexible but around $300 would be good. People in the other thread were recommending a 570.

*****UPDATE*****
I'm willing to go up to around $400 if it's really worth the extra money, please see below.

I checked out the July Best Cards for the money article... It recommends 2 460's instead of a single 570 and the price is about the same. And what about 2 560's instead? The nvidia website says my PSU will work for 2 460's but says nothing about the 560's.

I honestly have no idea what to get, I have one friend telling me the 560 ti is the way to go, and I have no idea what the difference between the 560ti and the 560 is other than the ti is more expensive and not mentioned at all in the July article.

First of all I love to crank up the AA so that makes me lean toward the SLI setup, however my current set up I use my 1680 monitor for most games and i use my 1920 tv for watching movies and playing games that lend themselves to a 360 game-pad. My single 8800 would play a game on the monitor and a movie on the tv at the same time with no problem so that makes me think for my needs SLI would be overkill.

Basically, I'm the kind of person who doesn't mind spending the money if it's worth it in terms of quality, performance, or "future proof". I paid $600 for my 8800 and feel it was worth it considering until yesterday it still played all the newest games with pretty high settings.

Thought? Advice? Shut up and by a 570?



System Specs

Intel core i7-2600k (Corsair h100 is on order, stock cooler atm)
Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Thermaltake ToughPower 750w
2 x 150 WD Raptor HDD's
4 x 500 Samsung HDD's
22" 1680x1050 Samsung Syncmaster
48" 1920x1080 Samsung HD LCD TV
Coolermaster Cosmos-S

a c 271 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 7:42:20 PM

Two GTX560Ti's will use about 20w more than two GTX460's and as you've started another thread I've closed the other one.
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 7:53:24 PM

The GTX560"ti" version is just a turbo charged version of the GTX560.The GTX560 is meant to replace the GTX460.

Since your needs aren't that demanding and you play games at 1650x900 I would reccomend going with the GTX560ti.For your needs it should last a while but if someday you feel your not getting what you'd like just add another for SLI and it will be more powerful than a GTX570.

What is the moke/model of your PSU?

Full system specs?

MSI Twin Frozr II GTX560ti $245=$225 after MIR + Free Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Twin Frozr II some of the best cooling out of the GTX560ti's.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 8:05:09 PM

purple stank said:
The GTX560"ti" version is just a turbo charged version of the GTX560.The GTX560 is meant to replace the GTX460.

It's a bit more than that, they have a different core count and as such cannot be run in SLi together making them completely different cards.
July 29, 2011 8:05:56 PM

purple stank said:
The GTX560"ti" version is just a turbo charged version of the GTX560.The GTX560 is meant to replace the GTX460.

Since your needs aren't that demanding and you play games at 1650x900 I would reccomend going with the GTX560ti.For your needs it should last a while but if someday you feel your not getting what you'd like just add another for SLI and it will be more powerful than a GTX570.

What is the moke/model of your PSU?

Full system specs?

MSI Twin Frozr II GTX560ti $245=$225 after MIR + Free Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Twin Frozr II some of the best cooling out of the GTX560ti's.


I actually linked the PSU you can click on where I said my PSU... I'll add my full specs to the post now.

Also, I put 1650 by mistake, I play games at 1680x1050. Sometimes at 1920x1080 on my tv, but it's rare.
a c 501 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 8:33:26 PM

The Thermaltake Toughpower 750 Watts (W0117RU) with its +12 Volt continuous current rating of 60 Amps is enough to handle a system with two GeForce GTX 570 graphics cards in 2-way SLI mode so it should be able to handle the other graphics cards that were mentioned above in 2-way SLI mode.
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 9:09:38 PM

At 1680x1050 with a 2600k you really shouldn't have any problem maxing out games with a single GTX560ti.As I said before if you feel you need more power you can always add another one later.A GTX560ti SLI paired with a 2600k should be good for another year or two maybe more.
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 9:11:32 PM

Mousemonkey said:
It's a bit more than that, they have a different core count and as such cannot be run in SLi together making them completely different cards.


Do you know why Nvidia went with "ti" instead of making it a GTX565? GTX565 seems a lot easier.
a c 271 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 9:14:23 PM

purple stank said:
Do you know why Nvidia went with "ti" instead of making it a GTX565? GTX565 seems a lot easier.

It was something about bringing the Ti moniker back, trying to appeal to the old farts like me I guess. Same deal with the GTS prefix/suffix.
a c 501 U Graphics card
July 29, 2011 9:45:30 PM

purple stank said:
Do you know why Nvidia went with "ti" instead of making it a GTX565? GTX565 seems a lot easier.

GTX 560 Ti has 384 CUDA Cores. Its launch date : January 25, 2011

GTX 560 has 336 CUDA Cores. Its launch date : May 17, 2011 to compete against the HD 6950's price slot.

They both use the GF114 GPU but the non-Ti version has 48 CUDA Cores disabled.

NVIDIA is not going to give a higher number to a weaker GPU so they just removed the Ti moniker.
July 29, 2011 11:34:48 PM

ok well, right now its a toss up between the 560ti and the 570. Weighing my options.

That MSI one seems to be the most popular no?

My friend with the 560ti is telling me I get I should get one made by nVidia... I wasn't aware that existed.


PS> Any thoughts on the H 100 cpu cooler? I realize that a custom loop will outperform it hands down but I don't want to spend that kind of cash. I just want good performance without a huge cpu cooler and fan in the middle of my mobo.
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 30, 2011 2:22:53 AM

This is kinda random at this point since we've narrowed it down to those 2 but for the price of a GTX570 you could for a 6970.And then Crossfire the 6970's making it only a little slower(20-50fpsfps on average) than the GTX580 SLI.The GTX580 SLI is right around $1000 while the 6970 crossfire is around $650.Thats a huge difference for 20-50fps.If your already getting over 60fps why pay $350 more to gain more FPS?Just had to throw that in there as another options.Sorry if your not intrested in ATI/AMD.

I know what you mean.The difference between how much space a water cooling system and a full sized heatsink is a lot.

This is the only review I have found.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/corsair_h100_...

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a c 535 U Graphics card
July 30, 2011 2:26:12 AM
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The GTX 570 is down to around $300 dollars right now, maybe a little bit more, but well within your price range. They have some nice custom models with custom cooling and upgraded components.
a c 535 U Graphics card
July 30, 2011 2:27:31 AM

NMD said:

PS> Any thoughts on the H 100 cpu cooler? I realize that a custom loop will outperform it hands down but I don't want to spend that kind of cash. I just want good performance without a huge cpu cooler and fan in the middle of my mobo.


The new H80 is a lot better in terms of noise and little bit cheaper.
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 30, 2011 2:31:23 AM

I think the Rad in the H100 will make a difference no matter what the benchmarks say.
July 30, 2011 4:05:28 AM

purple stank said:
This is kinda random at this point since we've narrowed it down to those 2 but for the price of a GTX570 you could for a 6970.And then Crossfire the 6970's making it only a little slower(20-50fpsfps on average) than the GTX580 SLI.The GTX580 SLI is right around $1000 while the 6970 crossfire is around $650.Thats a huge difference for 20-50fps.If your already getting over 60fps why pay $350 more to gain more FPS?Just had to throw that in there as another options.Sorry if your not intrested in ATI/AMD.

I know what you mean.The difference between how much space a water cooling system and a full sized heatsink is a lot.

This is the only review I have found.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/corsair_h100_...



Yea, I realize that ATI is better value for money but I've been an nvidia fanboy for far too long to switch now, hehe.

As for the H 100, I can deal with the noise and my case is designed for it, cant even use my giant side fan if I have a fullsize air cooler so I think the H 100 is a good fit for me. Esp after I upgrade the 2 stock fans with 4 better ones, I might even have room for a shroud on the inside(or some 55mm monster fans, LoL).
July 30, 2011 4:25:57 AM

Getting back to the GFX cards... I notice most have about 1gb of ram, but some offer more... now more is better I understand but how much better we talking here for one monitor?
a c 535 U Graphics card
July 30, 2011 3:30:40 PM

1gb is plenty, and after reading that review of the H100, I'd say the noise is not that bad.
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 30, 2011 9:49:18 PM

Thats a good choice.I'm sure you'll be happy.

Happy Gaming.
August 6, 2011 4:09:27 AM

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a c 271 U Graphics card
August 6, 2011 4:10:41 AM

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