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Can't help but want it all in one package.
I've been looking at the Kodak 9810 and 8500 printers, but wondered if
there were any others in that class that would print both borderless
4x6 AND 8x10?
Kind of disappointed that the 9810 doesn't have a matte kit.
Been reading a lot on the HP ink-jets as well. Always liked the
continuous color of a dye-sub and laminates, but looks like ink-jets
might be improving. How does the output quality compare?
I understand some HP's produce archivable prints, but not waterproof?
Anyone know where to get a good deal on a Fuji Printpix 400 let me
know! ;-)
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How 'bout the Oly P-440 8x10 dye-sub??
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>
> Can't help but want it all in one package.
>
> I've been looking at the Kodak 9810 and 8500 printers, but wondered if
> there were any others in that class that would print both borderless
> 4x6 AND 8x10?
>
> Kind of disappointed that the 9810 doesn't have a matte kit.
>
> Been reading a lot on the HP ink-jets as well. Always liked the
> continuous color of a dye-sub and laminates, but looks like ink-jets
> might be improving. How does the output quality compare?
>
> I understand some HP's produce archivable prints, but not waterproof?
>
> Anyone know where to get a good deal on a Fuji Printpix 400 let me
> know! ;-)
>
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It is not clear why you are stuck on dye-sub.
You will get higher quality output from hi end inkjet printers.
My personal preference would be for Epson printers as in my experience color
management is most accurate with their drivers. HP would not be high on my
personal list. Canon is in between.
Borderless printing is built in to most inkjets for sizes from snapshot to
8x10.
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birdman wrote:
> It is not clear why you are stuck on dye-sub.
> You will get higher quality output from hi end inkjet printers.
> My personal preference would be for Epson printers as in my
experience color
> management is most accurate with their drivers. HP would not be high
on my
> personal list. Canon is in between.
> Borderless printing is built in to most inkjets for sizes from
snapshot to
> 8x10.
I 'have' been looking rather seriously at the Canon i9900, but I guess
I am still partial to the continuous color of a dye-sub, and am not
really impressed with clogged nozzle issues with some of the more
advanced inkjet printers.
I guess my issues boil down to continuous color, protective UV/water
layer, and 'on the job' reliability. Dye-subs also seem to have a
longer duty load... though that may just be my personal perception.
(Been using an ALPS dye-sub for better than 6 years.)
TNG... appreciate the heads up on the Olympus. No borderless print
option, but size versitility may overweigh the slight inconvenience.
Thanks!
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Dye subs to me have always look better than any Ink Jet printer even the
i9900s which produce better colors than the Epson's 2200. Epson's seem to
form clogged heads, Canons heads fail or clog, Ink is always out on one of
the carts or low, or some papers will not work with some of the ink jets, or
banding always shows on them. I know that some say Dye Subs does not allow
different papers to be used , why in the hell would I want to change if what
I get is great anyway. I do not know how they do it but Dye subs use only
three colors and the blacks , reds, greens and blues are great, also they
will last way pass any ink jet in years and are tough, can not tear them.
Ink jets will provide 13x19s or any other size, Dye subs has not a 13x19 on
its size. I still have a Canon but it a fight to keep in the inks, or the
banding down.
"Tayvan" <t.rice@usa.com> wrote in message
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> birdman wrote:
>> It is not clear why you are stuck on dye-sub.
>> You will get higher quality output from hi end inkjet printers.
>> My personal preference would be for Epson printers as in my
> experience color
>> management is most accurate with their drivers. HP would not be high
> on my
>> personal list. Canon is in between.
>> Borderless printing is built in to most inkjets for sizes from
> snapshot to
>> 8x10.
>
>
> I 'have' been looking rather seriously at the Canon i9900, but I guess
> I am still partial to the continuous color of a dye-sub, and am not
> really impressed with clogged nozzle issues with some of the more
> advanced inkjet printers.
>
> I guess my issues boil down to continuous color, protective UV/water
> layer, and 'on the job' reliability. Dye-subs also seem to have a
> longer duty load... though that may just be my personal perception.
> (Been using an ALPS dye-sub for better than 6 years.)
>
> TNG... appreciate the heads up on the Olympus. No borderless print
> option, but size versitility may overweigh the slight inconvenience.
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
>
> ~Mikk
>
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"paul" <paul@not.net> wrote in message
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> g n p wrote:
>
>> How 'bout the Oly P-440 8x10 dye-sub??
>
>
> $339.95
> http://www.mdiusa.com/cgi-local/So [...] ?E+scstore >
> 100 A4 sheets + 2 ink ribbons Matte or Glossy $157.95
>
> So that's $1.58/print including paper & ink ribbons if I read correctly.
>
> Do they make anything larger?
Even though I suspect irony in your comment, no this is it.
Print quality is great, though ( www.steves-digicams.com )
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That's about what I found. Amazon.com's initial price is higher, but
shipping is lower so they both worked out to around $375. Couple of
places pricing out in the $350 range, but couldn't vouch for their
company reps. (NY based companies)
As for media, mdiusa's shipping cost kind of kills it. Working out to
$1.70/print, vs. Amazon.com's free shipping and $152 price tag...
bringing it down to $1.52/print.
Not too shabby.
As far as size... no. 8x10 is as large as you get. On the upside
though, you're not locked into a dedicated 8x10 printer like the Kodak.
The P-440's a bit older technology, but I haven't heard back from them
yet as to when the superceeding model will be released, and it's
offerings.
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g n p wrote:
> "paul" <paul@not.net> wrote in message
> news:QOWdnY9mKv0r_MjfRVn-oA@speakeasy.net...
>
>>g n p wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How 'bout the Oly P-440 8x10 dye-sub??
>>
>>
>>$339.95
>>http://www.mdiusa.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/oly_p440.htm?E+scstore
>>
>>100 A4 sheets + 2 ink ribbons Matte or Glossy $157.95
>>
>>So that's $1.58/print including paper & ink ribbons if I read correctly.
>>
>>Do they make anything larger?
>
>
> Even though I suspect irony in your comment, no this is it.
> Print quality is great, though ( www.steves-digicams.com )
No irony, I'd like to test one, I think it makes good sense for digital
pictures & I'm not fond of ink jets dots & banding & clogs.
I see the Kodak 8500 is about $1000. Is it that much better than the Oly?
I noticed some 8-1/2x12 paper which would be a little nicer than 8x10 &
match my aspect ratio better. 8-1/2x12.75 borderless would be ideal.
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