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Can I fit Geforce GTX570 in my motherboard?

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July 30, 2011 8:24:54 PM

Hello,

I've got ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5N-D 1.XX motherboard and i was thinking about replacing my Geforce 9500 with Geforce GTX560TI, and the question is if this graphic card will fit in my motherboard in pci-e connection?

Or you could advice me on buying other graphic card/ better one?

But the thing is that i dont want to change anything than graphic card but i know that my motherboard is a bit old.

Thanks!

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July 30, 2011 8:38:05 PM

There are two PCIe 2.0 x16 slots on that motherboard so it will fit just fine.

Is your power supply unit capable of powering the system with that GeForce GTX 560 Ti graphics card?

For a system with a single GeForce GTX 560 Ti graphics card NVIDIA recommends a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater power supply with a +12 Volt continuous current rating of 30 Amps or greater and with at least two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

The power supply's +12 Volt continuous current rating specification must be met or you will run into power problems. Don't focus on the power supply's wattage it's much less important.
July 31, 2011 10:57:45 AM

Thanks for your replay.

Well my power supply is CIT W700 v12, 6 pins PCI-E connector but it doesn't say anything about amps. Is there any way to check it?

And the other thing is that which graphic card would you advice me to buy? I have 200£ to spend on and the graphic card must runs battlefield 3 when its released.
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July 31, 2011 11:03:19 AM

what psu is that?
When i search google only cars and motorbikes appear.

I think you might be using a car powersupply.
July 31, 2011 12:16:05 PM

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July 31, 2011 10:50:38 PM

CiT is a budget junk brand available in the U.K.

The 700 Watt model is listed as having two +12 Volt rails with each rail limited to 21 Amps. This does not mean that the power supply is capable of delivering 42 Amps on its combined +12 Volt rails, far from it. My guess is that it is more likely closer to 30 Amps.

It's not a power supply that I would trust and use in my rig. There have been no reviews done by reputable power supply test sites which tells me it was never worthy of testing and is not widely available throughout the world.

It may just barely be sufficient to run a system with a single reference clocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti.

It is up to you whether or not you want to risk your new graphics card and system to that PSU.
August 1, 2011 3:49:21 PM

What could happen with my graphic card if the psu would break down?

It has happened to me once but it didnt have any side effects on my other hardware so...
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August 1, 2011 5:31:05 PM

michalux said:
What could happen with my graphic card if the psu would break down?

It has happened to me once but it didnt have any side effects on my other hardware so...

I have heard of someone who lost their motherboard when their CiT power supply died.

If the power supply doesn't have adequate protection circuitry you will lose devices like the motherboard, graphics card(s), hard disk drives, etc, that are connected up to the power supply.
August 1, 2011 6:57:07 PM

Ok fair enough, so which psu would you advice me to buy and what graphic card then? I can spend up to 250£ on graphic card and about 70£ on new psu.

And I would like to order it from novatech.co.uk or other trusted UK site.

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August 1, 2011 7:23:28 PM

ko888 said:
I have heard of someone who lost their motherboard when their CiT power supply died.

If the power supply doesn't have adequate protection circuitry you will lose devices like the motherboard, graphics card(s), hard disk drives, etc, that are connected up to the power supply.

I've lost a motherboard, CPU and graphic card when an EZcool PSU went phut :(  . Don't know about CiT but I wouldn't trust 'em.
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August 1, 2011 7:56:32 PM

michalux said:
Ok fair enough, so which psu would you advice me to buy and what graphic card then? I can spend up to 250£ on graphic card and about 70£ on new psu.

And I would like to order it from novatech.co.uk or other trusted UK site.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-corsair-enthusiast-...
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August 1, 2011 7:58:41 PM

michalux said:
Ok fair enough, so which psu would you advice me to buy and what graphic card then? I can spend up to 250£ on graphic card and about 70£ on new psu.

And I would like to order it from novatech.co.uk or other trusted UK site.

For the power supply unit, Corsair is the only brand listed on on Novatech's site that I would select from, based on the power range you are selecting from :

Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 650W V2 (CMPSU-650TXV2UK) £63.98 inc vat

It's made by Seasonic and has a +12 Volt continuous current rating of 53 Amps that will handle the GeForce GTX 570, that you were considering on purchasing, with no problems. In fact it is even enough handle a single GeForce GTX 580 or GeForce GTX 590.

The graphics card I will leave up to you.
August 2, 2011 2:38:18 PM

But could you give me any advices whether to go for Radeon or Nvidia? I need a graphic card which will run Battlefield 3 on full details.
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August 2, 2011 7:39:53 PM

michalux said:
But could you give me any advices whether to go for Radeon or Nvidia? I need a graphic card which will run Battlefield 3 on full details.

What display resolution do you play at?

The graphics card requirements are expected to be similar to Battlefield: Bad Company 2.

If it was my choice I would choose the GeForce GTX 570 or the GeForce GTX 580. Whatever your budget can accommodate.

August 3, 2011 7:34:43 PM

What would you say about http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX... ? I think it's better than GTX560TI and only 5-10% worse than HD6970. Also it has got 2 fans which will keep my graphic card cool and in case on need i can overclocked it a bit.



I've got one more question. Does the chipset matter when you are choosing graphic card? Actually I've got nvidia chipset and if i would buy that ATI HD6950 would it have any side effects or something? Or it just doesnt matter at all?
August 3, 2011 7:43:55 PM

there is no problems with running an AMD(formerly ATI) graphics card on an nvidia chipset I ran a HD 4870 on my old nvidia chipset motherboard without issue for a year before upgrading my processor and motherboard to an Intel chipset. you just cant run 2 AMD cards in CrossfireX on an nvidia chipset. so as long as you go with just 1 graphics card you will be fine but if you want to run multiple graphics cards without upgrading the motherboard you will have to go with nvidia cards.
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August 3, 2011 10:28:00 PM

michalux said:
What would you say about http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX... ? I think it's better than GTX560TI and only 5-10% worse than HD6970. Also it has got 2 fans which will keep my graphic card cool and in case on need i can overclocked it a bit.

Are you also planning to unlock the extra shader units to HD 6970 level along with your overclock? It may or may not give you HD 6970 level performance but at least it will be a few percent more performance than the stock version of the MSI ATI Radeon HD 6950 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition.
August 4, 2011 3:38:23 AM

ko888 said:
Are you also planning to unlock the extra shader units to HD 6970 level along with your overclock? It may or may not give you HD 6970 level performance but at least it will be a few percent more performance than the stock version of the MSI ATI Radeon HD 6950 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition.


I've seen a guide on overclockers page but they say u cannot make 6970 from 6950 anymore, so i dont really know if its true or not but i would give it a try of course due to dual fans on it
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August 4, 2011 7:27:59 PM

michalux said:
Or should i go for http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX... instead of 6950?

I would choose it over the HD 6950.

You don't have to worry about unlocking shader units or overclocking it to get it up to 60 FPS in BFBC2 and BF3.
August 4, 2011 8:24:59 PM

Ok, so defo im going to replace my PSU. But well, you still dont give me an answer what should i go for.

I'm really confused by now and i dont know what graphic card should i buy.

Ive got budget of £250 to spend on a graphic card so i could whether go for 6950, gtx570 or this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-129-MS&tool=3

But still its only 1gb vram, is it gonna run every game on max resolution, quality etc including my cpu is only core 2 duo e8400?
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August 4, 2011 8:30:29 PM

michalux said:
Ok, so defo im going to replace my PSU. But well, you still dont give me an answer what should i go for.

I'm really confused by now and i dont know what graphic card should i buy.

Ive got budget of £250 to spend on a graphic card so i could whether go for 6950, gtx570 or this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-129-MS&tool=3

But still its only 1gb vram, is it gonna run every game on max resolution, quality etc including my cpu is only core 2 duo e8400?

I've been telling you to get the GTX 570 all along but you keep changing your mind or post links to other graphics cards to get an opinion as if you were trying to avoid getting the GTX 570 for some reason. If you're an ATI fanboy then select an ATI product.
August 5, 2011 4:42:23 PM

Overclockers told me that they expect to get that graphic card by the end of this year... But i found it in scan.co.uk

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300, Yorkfield Core, S775, 2.5 GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 7.5x, Retail - 115£

1280MB MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC, 40nm, 4000MHz GDDR5, GPU 770MHz, Shader 1540MHz - 253£

700W Thermaltake TR-700P TR2 ATX 12V V2.3 / EPS 12V 2.91 SLI/CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Bonze PSU - 57£

What do you reckon about this set?

Or instead of GTX570 i could go for ScanFX HD 6970 AMD Radeon Graphics Card - 2GB which is faster http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-scanfx-hd-6970-pci-e-21-(x16)-5500mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-1536-cores-2x-mdp-hdmi and better, isnt it?

Btw does PCI version matters and it has to be compatible with your mobo?
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August 5, 2011 7:07:44 PM

michalux said:
Overclockers told me that they expect to get that graphic card by the end of this year... But i found it in scan.co.uk

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300, Yorkfield Core, S775, 2.5 GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 7.5x, Retail - 115£

1280MB MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC, 40nm, 4000MHz GDDR5, GPU 770MHz, Shader 1540MHz - 253£

700W Thermaltake TR-700P TR2 ATX 12V V2.3 / EPS 12V 2.91 SLI/CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Bonze PSU - 57£

What do you reckon about this set?

Or instead of GTX570 i could go for ScanFX HD 6970 AMD Radeon Graphics Card - 2GB which is faster http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-scanfx-hd-6970-pci-e-21-(x16)-5500mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-1536-cores-2x-mdp-hdmi and better, isnt it?

Btw does PCI version matters and it has to be compatible with your mobo?

Where's your proof (i.e. links to test reviews) that shows that the reference clocked ScanFX HD 6970 AMD Radeon Graphics Card - 2GB is better than the GTX 570? Don't select based on someones unsupported opinions, base it on proof from test reviews. You would have to overclock the HD 6970 by at least 60 MHz to beat a reference clocked GTX 570 in BFBC2/BF3 at 1920x1080. Get the 1280MB MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC that you've listed above.

In your case the graphics card's PCI Express version doesn't matter because your motherboard's PCI Express version is 2.0.

The only cases of PCI Express version incompatibility, that I've heard of, was between a motherboard with PCI Express 1.0a x16 slots and the use of graphics cards with an improper implementation of the PCI Express 2.1 specification.
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August 5, 2011 9:12:49 PM


Did you actually do the comparison between the two cards? Don't just look at the list you've linked to, it tells you nothing other than memory bandwidth. There's benchmark results (only theoretical) for Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 1920x1200 4x AA 16x AF when comparing the two cards you are looking at for that website you linked to. Those theoretical results, in terms of outcome, follow closely to actual benchmark test results I've seen.

http://www.hwcompare.com/9020/geforce-gtx-570-vs-radeon...
August 5, 2011 9:24:07 PM

So wat would u pick then?
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August 5, 2011 10:16:45 PM

michalux said:
So wat would u pick then?

I keep telling you to pick the GTX 570 but you always try to pick something else. This is just getting pointless.
August 6, 2011 9:54:29 AM

its just u who thinks that
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