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October 2, 2011 10:27:23 AM

System Usage from Most to Least Important:gaming,movies,tv watching,music,storage,Internet
 
Parts Not Required:, speakers, OS
 
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, tiger direct
 
Country of Origin: USA
 
Parts Preferences: intel evga and asus
 
Overclocking: Yes
 
SLI: Yes
 
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1200
 
Additional Comments: supports max graphics.... Mostly a multi media and gaming system..... It should look awesome.. Lights and fan controls a plus..looking awesome is the most important
 

More about : 4000 build

October 2, 2011 11:11:05 AM

CPU: $315 Intel Core i7-2600K

MOBO: $200 ASUS P8Z68-V PRO or better still $350 GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD7-B3

RAM: $48 CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB

GPU: 2x $500 EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...

HSF: $85 Noctua NH-D14

PSU: $280 CORSAIR Gold AX1200

Case: $190 COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942 or better still $280 Corsair Obsidian Series 800D

That's $2118+ shipping.

The rest goes towards a BD writer, a SSD and lights etc.

edit: If the heat spreaders in those RAM modules are too big for the HSF (shouldn't be), you can always get the G.SKILL Sniper 8GB
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October 2, 2011 11:20:29 AM

Why not water cooled? With the h100? I'm looking to get 5 ghz out of the i7.

Thanks for your reply. Oh and the secondary color needs to be blue with either a black or white case :bounce: 
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October 2, 2011 11:34:33 AM

You need to get really lucky with a good chip to get a stable 5G.

Personally, I'm still old school. Pretty uncomfortable mixing H2O with electronics. I've got absolutely no experience with that personally :p 

I'm sure someone else will help you out with that one.

Anything else - shoot.
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October 2, 2011 11:38:11 AM
October 2, 2011 11:44:15 AM

i was writing while the other person replied. i never put an i7 becuase it says its for gaming and another gpu would be better . if you want one you could remove one gpu. i forgot the psu take away the sound card for a OCZ ZX Series 1000W that makes it go over your total by $60 but you can get rebates.
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October 2, 2011 12:00:20 PM

So my actual budget is 3500 with peripherals. I'm looking for 3d surround. And its not for me personally. It's more important for the system to look. Expensive and powerful than actually deliver. And really 5g is hard to get? Cause my 2500k get 4.65 with an h80 cooling it.
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October 2, 2011 12:12:46 PM

2x 3d monitors already cost $440 so that doesnt give you much room for other stuff.
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October 2, 2011 12:16:03 PM

Apparently the budget was just upped to 4000$ dollars. Sorry guys I really appreciate it. Again the most important thing is the wow factor. When people see it they should be very impressed. And I need the monitors mounted together
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October 2, 2011 12:21:37 PM

With 3-way SLI some games will run into CPU bottleneck pretty fast unless you really make it heavy on the GPUs, that means resolutions of 1920x1200 and above.

You're not seriously suggesting 3X 580 with a 3.1 Ghz quad, right? You'll prolly need to run the 2600K @4.0+ to avoid CPU bottlenecking.

And if you do get a 2560X1440 monitor, you do realize the cost of that right?

With more GPU intensive games like Metro 2033, Battlefield BC2, Crysis and even Far Cry 2 with say 8xAA 3-way SLI does show noticeable gains. But as I said, you do need extremely high resolutions for it to work effectively.

Also, gaming with three monitors where you literally increase the GPU load by threefold, these are situations where a triple GPU setup makes sense.

What doesn't make sense obviously is the massive amount of money you need to spend on a setup like this.

The three cards alone will set you back roughly 1400/1500-plus the cost of the rest of the set-up, including three 2560X1440 monitors :ouch:  .

And then obviously there's your power supply. The very bare minimum you'll need to get is a good 1200 Watt PSU, and make damn sure that the PSU you choose has these 6-pin AND three 8-pin PCIE PEG connectors to feed the graphics cards.

When it comes to CPU bottlenecking, you could say overclock to 5 GHz+ as you asked, but overclocking requires additional voltage on the processor, if you need to step towards 1.5v or even higher your overall peak power consumption will rise significantly. An additional 100 to 200 Watts may not be out of the question at all. And overclocking it to such dramatically high levels would endanger system stability by pushing the 1200 Watt PSU close to its limits.

So basically, this is really silly stuff to do. But people out there do purchase setups like this I suppose. But with 3-way you'll run into heaps of problems like power consumption, noise levels and then the CPU bottlenecks and after all that, scaling may in any case may leave you disappointed.
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October 2, 2011 12:27:40 PM

So is it impossible to accomplish with those funds. I appreciate your comments. Understand this aren't my requirements.. It's just a build for a guy with money to blow. What about the gtx 590
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October 2, 2011 12:38:38 PM

I'd go for something along the lines of the first build with the 2 GTX 580's and the HAF X. I'd go for the H100 over the Noctua though, bit more expensive but the Noctua is pretty ugly. Means you can actually see your RAM too. This should leave you plenty of cash for a 3d surround setup and a 5.25'' LCD screen fan controller.
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October 2, 2011 12:49:20 PM

The guy wants blue accents though...
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October 2, 2011 1:05:39 PM

wow ! its 4000 now . that changes alot
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October 2, 2011 1:10:24 PM

could just one gtx 590 handle the three 3d surround monitors at 1080p and gameplay
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October 2, 2011 1:12:43 PM

calguyhunk said:
With 3-way SLI some games will run into CPU bottleneck pretty fast unless you really make it heavy on the GPUs, that means resolutions of 1920x1200 and above.

You're not seriously suggesting 3X 580 with a 3.1 Ghz quad, right? You'll prolly need to run the 2600K @4.0+ to avoid CPU bottlenecking.

And if you do get a 2560X1440 monitor, you do realize the cost of that right?

With more GPU intensive games like Metro 2033, Battlefield BC2, Crysis and even Far Cry 2 with say 8xAA 3-way SLI does show noticeable gains. But as I said, you do need extremely high resolutions for it to work effectively.

Also, gaming with three monitors where you literally increase the GPU load by threefold, these are situations where a triple GPU setup makes sense.

What doesn't make sense obviously is the massive amount of money you need to spend on a setup like this.

The three cards alone will set you back roughly 1400/1500-plus the cost of the rest of the set-up, including three 2560X1440 monitors :ouch:  .

And then obviously there's your power supply. The very bare minimum you'll need to get is a good 1200 Watt PSU, and make damn sure that the PSU you choose has these 6-pin AND three 8-pin PCIE PEG connectors to feed the graphics cards.

When it comes to CPU bottlenecking, you could say overclock to 5 GHz+ as you asked, but overclocking requires additional voltage on the processor, if you need to step towards 1.5v or even higher your overall peak power consumption will rise significantly. An additional 100 to 200 Watts may not be out of the question at all. And overclocking it to such dramatically high levels would endanger system stability by pushing the 1200 Watt PSU close to its limits.

So basically, this is really silly stuff to do. But people out there do purchase setups like this I suppose. But with 3-way you'll run into heaps of problems like power consumption, noise levels and then the CPU bottlenecks and after all that, scaling may in any case may leave you disappointed.


thanks for the insight .

im confused does he want two or three monitors .

he also said he wants 3d surround sound and i dont know if he ment 3d monitors too.correct me if im wrong .if he does want 2 3d monitors then 3 gpu's would make sense.
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October 2, 2011 1:20:07 PM

i need 3x 3d hd monitors. not sound. my apologies for any misunderstanding.. i have been up for quite awhile.
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October 2, 2011 1:31:44 PM

so monitors and all the components and case can someone list me a complete build.. i really appreciate it.
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October 2, 2011 1:32:50 PM

couldnt you just combine them
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October 2, 2011 2:46:37 PM

SAMSUNG 23" 2ms Full HD 3D LED- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x3=1200$

i5 2500k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 220$

Corsair AX1200 1200w- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Professional-1200-Watt-Ce... 280$

Zotac GTX 580- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x3=1350$

Asrock Z68 Extreme7 GEN3- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 290$

Gskill Sniper 8gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 50$

In Win Dragon Rider- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 140$

Corsair H100- http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0051U7HMS/ref=d... 110$ get the one from amazon. yes it can fit. remove the fan at the top of the case then install this

Samsung Blu Ray Drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 58$

Samsung F3 1tb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 60$

Crucial M4 128gb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 197$

Zalman 6 Fan Controller- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 40$ the touch screen ones are awful. i have one and i really wish i got this one.

Total=3995$
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October 2, 2011 2:50:06 PM

hornsan1 said:
The guy wants blue accents though...


You can get a blue HAF X
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October 2, 2011 3:02:18 PM

hornsan1 said:
So is it impossible to accomplish with those funds. I appreciate your comments. Understand this aren't my requirements.. It's just a build for a guy with money to blow. What about the gtx 590
I sincerely hope you're talking 'bout a single 590, in which case, GTX 580 SLI is gonna pretty much own it. However, I can't even begin to describe the sheer absurdity of a quad GPU SLI dual 590 set-up.

EDIT- @mj - The GPU link goes to a 580 not a 590.

I cannot imagine anybody not getting the top-of-the-line CPU for a $4000 build (for just 90 odd bucks extra) if at all for just the heck of it especially as this guy clearly needs bragging rights.

Surely you need a Blue Ray burner at $4000 levels (at 2750 levels, actually :p )
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October 2, 2011 4:03:26 PM

calguyhunk said:
I sincerely hope you're talking 'bout a single 590, in which case, GTX 580 SLI is gonna pretty much own it. However, I can't even begin to describe the sheer absurdity of a quad GPU SLI dual 590 set-up.

EDIT- @mj - The GPU link goes to a 580 not a 590.

I cannot imagine anybody not getting the top-of-the-line CPU for a $4000 build (for just 90 odd bucks extra) if at all for just the heck of it especially as this guy clearly needs bragging rights.

Surely you need a Blue Ray burner at $4000 levels (at 2750 levels, actually :p )

590 sli at 5670x1080p 3d gaming is like gaming with 2 580's at 5670x1080p 2d. 3d cuts the fps in half. and even then quad sli is snot double the performance of 2 way sli. so if you want to max out bf3 playing 3d, 2 590's is not absurd. that is why people are putting 3 580's and skipping on the 2600k and others the blu-ray burner so they can fit in 3 3d screens
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October 2, 2011 4:10:57 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
590 sli at 5670x1080p 3d gaming is like gaming with 2 580's at 5670x1080p 2d. 3d cuts the fps in half. and even then quad sli is snot double the performance of 2 way sli.
Exactly. That's why I said it's not a good investment. Scaling=value for money. Spending twice the money for a few extra frames prolly doesn't make much of a sense - to me at least - ymmv :) 
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October 2, 2011 4:12:49 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
590 sli at 5670x1080p 3d gaming is like gaming with 2 580's at 5670x1080p 2d. 3d cuts the fps in half. and even then quad sli is snot double the performance of 2 way sli. so if you want to max out bf3 playing 3d, 2 590's is not absurd. that is why people are putting 3 580's and skipping on the 2600k and others the blu-ray burner so they can fit in 3 3d screens


my build had both
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October 2, 2011 4:15:21 PM

9_breaker said:
my build had both

the 2600k too?
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October 2, 2011 4:19:55 PM

This is not a system builder marathon guys. In the real world, someone who is spending 4000 will in all probability spend 2% extra literally for the extra performance/cool factor.

$4000=$4090 :) 
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October 2, 2011 4:40:29 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
the 2600k too?


yes
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October 2, 2011 4:43:41 PM

calguyhunk said:
This is not a system builder marathon guys. In the real world, someone who is spending 4000 will in all probability spend 2% extra literally for the extra performance/cool factor.

$4000=$4090 :) 


to me it is i cant join the marathon because its us only ive been waiting for this momment since i was 3 . this is my life ,i take pride in this . i will not fail!
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October 2, 2011 4:54:03 PM

9_breaker said:
to me it is i cant join the marathon because its us only ive been waiting for this momment since i was 3 . this is my life ,i take pride in this . i will not fail!
LOL :lol: 
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October 2, 2011 5:30:37 PM

thanks fellas
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October 2, 2011 5:44:32 PM

you should make a poll for the best build
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October 2, 2011 5:55:28 PM

if you want Blue accents ..maybe consider finding an older Lian Li case , with full brushed aluminum ,(or any good Brushed alum case) those LEDs will shine and glimmer around that silvery finish.
also does it HAVE to be 2 monitors , why not 1 nice big screen ?
for PSU ..the coolermaster Silent Pro gold series is decent , modular , has that cool factor etc.
and why is everyone going for the 580's ..why not a couple of 6870 x2's ?
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October 2, 2011 6:05:52 PM

ltrazaklt said:
if you want Blue accents ..maybe consider finding an older Lian Li case , with full brushed aluminum ,(or any good Brushed alum case) those LEDs will shine and glimmer around that silvery finish.
also does it HAVE to be 2 monitors , why not 1 nice big screen ?
for PSU ..the coolermaster Silent Pro gold series is decent , modular , has that cool factor etc.
and why is everyone going for the 580's ..why not a couple of 6870 x2's ?

3d surround is three monitors. and i am going to take the 6870 as a typo and you meant 6970. amd cards still dont have as good of 3d nvidia cards
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October 2, 2011 6:08:01 PM

You could also wait for the 2700k that will be coming out in the foreseeable future. But man is 2x 3d monitors necessary? I can't imagine the kinds of headaches you would get after 3+ hours. And do make a "poll" to see what build we all vote on. :D 
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October 2, 2011 6:45:13 PM
October 2, 2011 8:18:03 PM

well, the op , originally didnt say anything abour 3d surround , just listed 2 resolutions, 3d was added later (my bad), and I think you misread , or i mistyped ..I did not mean 2 -6870s ..I meant 2 -6870x2's , the ones at the Very Top of Toms current charts ..and I was just wondering why no one looked at that as a possible setup
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October 2, 2011 8:27:03 PM

i did.......

its just that 6990+6970>6870x2+6870

and for that mater 6990+6970>580sli
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October 2, 2011 8:31:15 PM

Doh , sorry Badtay ..was replying to earlier mjmj replay :)  ..hit the wrong reply
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October 2, 2011 9:12:22 PM

Ok so i talked to the guy and three 3d monitors is out.. he just requires 3 hd monitors all mounted together. LED is preferanle with a tv tuner for sure.
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October 2, 2011 9:13:24 PM

And i have no idea how to add a poll
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October 2, 2011 10:03:10 PM

hornsan1 said:
And i have no idea how to add a poll
Click on "Ask the community" and you'll be presented with 3 options, the third of which is "Poll".

EDIT: To be fair, if you do start a poll though, you've gotta mention that my suggestions were for a 2700$ tower (as you had said back then) + peripherals extra :p 
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October 3, 2011 12:26:01 AM

calguyhunk said:
Click on "Ask the community" and you'll be presented with 3 options, the third of which is "Poll".

EDIT: To be fair, if you do start a poll though, you've gotta mention that my suggestions were for a 2700$ tower (as you had said back then) + peripherals extra :p 


Your welcome to present another option
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October 3, 2011 9:26:01 PM

Best answer selected by hornsan1.
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October 4, 2011 5:18:21 AM

if the 3d monitors are out then my build falls within the budget. the only change it needs is a corsair psu like mjmjpfaff said
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