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I want get an Ati 5670, but only have a 300watt psu is this enough

Forum Graphics & Displays : Graphics Cards I want get an Ati 5670, but only have a 300watt psu is this enough

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I would like to get an ati 5670, but only hane a 300 watt psu. Its a standard psu which came with my hp pc.
Here are the some specs of my pc i know

Amd Athlon x3 440
3gb ddr3 ram

I'm currently using an ati 4550, but it's not that great even on low settings on some games...

If I can't run an ati 5670 with a 300watt psu, can anyone recommend a safer option?


Thanks

Reply to li4m53
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What PSU Do You Have? Make ?

The 5670 Uses 76W At Full Load And 16W At Idle.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 33-17.html

So Check The Ampere Rating Of Your 12V Railing! And Post Here!
Anyways, I Think The Card Will Run Just Fine.. :)

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Reply to djabhi003

The 5670 is a low end budget GPU. You won't have any trouble running it on 300W only.

Reply to wintermint

Generally speaking, a 300w PSU should be able to handle a HD 5670 without any issues.

However, it is best if you provide your system specs and the specific make and model PSU you have.

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Reply to jaguarskx

Ok im sorry to do this guys, by the recommended power supply for this card is 500w on Newegg...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150535

I am currently looking for the AMD tech article on it...so give me a second.

Reply to frankthetank909

Like I thought off of this page (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/ati-radeon-hd-5670-overview/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5670-overview.aspx#3) here are the requirements:

Suggested ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 System Requirements
■PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
■400 Watt or greater power supply recommended (500 Watt for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)
■Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://support.amd.com/us/certifie [...] sting.aspx
for a list of Certified products
■Minimum 1GB of system memory
■Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
■DVD playback requires DVD drive
■Blu-ray™ playback requires Blu-ray drive
■For an ATI CrossFireX™ system, a second ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 graphics card, an ATI CrossFireX Ready motherboard and one ATI CrossFireX Bridge Interconnect cable per graphics card (included) are required

NOTE: If the gold finger connectors have been removed from the 1GB board design, an ATI CrossFireX Bridge Interconnect cable is not required to enable ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode.

Suggested ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 System Requirements
■PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
■400 Watt or greater power supply recommended (500 Watt for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)
■Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://support.amd.com/us/certifie [...] sting.aspx
for a list of Certified products
■Minimum 1GB of system memory
■Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
■DVD playback requires DVD drive
■Blu-ray™ playback requires Blu-ray drive
■For an ATI CrossFireX™ system, a second ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 graphics card and an ATI CrossFireX Ready motherboard are required


So Go For a 400W or higher or you could have problems...


Message edited by frankthetank909 on 08-02-2011 at 10:42:22 PM
Reply to frankthetank909

It's possible to run the HD 5670 on a good quality 300w PSU.

I just depends on the power consumption of the other components and the quality of the PSU.

Those suggestions above are just guidelines for people who have no idea about power consumption.

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Reply to jaguarskx

jaguarskx wrote :

It's possible to run the HD 5670 on a good quality 300w PSU.

I just depends on the power consumption of the other components and the quality of the PSU.

Those suggestions above are just guidelines for people who have no idea about power consumption.



Like the OP? Seriously OP choice is yours, but manufacturer recommends 400w or higher. Thats what i would recommend if you came into my shop. IMHO.

Reply to frankthetank909

While the OP does may not know or understand the power consumption of their components, there are people in this forum with that knowledge who can provide assistance.

However, you are correct. The ultimate decision is the OP's if he/she is willing to accept such advice.

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Reply to jaguarskx

I used To Run A 9500GT On A 250W PSU! And That Too Some Cheap One I Got With My OEM PC! No Probs For 2 Years, Untill I Upgraded To A New PSU Nd Card!

It All Depends On The Total Power Consumption Of The Other PC Parts, CPU,Mobo,HDD,DVD Burner Etc!
The 5670 is a very low power consumption card! As Tom's Says It Uses Only 76W At Full Load!

http://media.bestofmicro.com/7/H/236141/original/Power.png

It Would Be A Lot Easier Giving Advice If The OP Posted His System Specs/PSU Make!
I Mean An Antec/Corsair Etc PSU's Are Under rated And Would Give More Than The 300W Specified!


Message edited by djabhi003 on 08-02-2011 at 11:53:15 PM
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Reply to djabhi003

Actually, that's peak power which generally means a spike in power consumption that is above a normal full load and does not last too long.

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li4m53 wrote :

I would like to get an ati 5670, but only hane a 300 watt psu. Its a standard psu which came with my hp pc.
Here are the some specs of my pc i know

Amd Athlon x3 440
3gb ddr3 ram

I'm currently using an ati 4550, but it's not that great even on low settings on some games...

If I can't run an ati 5670 with a 300watt psu, can anyone recommend a safer option?


Thanks



A 300 watt should be fine. I have a computer with i660, 4 gigs of 1300 memory, 5670, HD, DVD, 500 watt PS.
At max load I am drawing at the outlet (no monitors) about 100 watts, at idle about 65 watts.
In my case max load means CPU load of about 65%, running a dvd along with Power DVD, Windows Media Player running a MP4, audio stream, internet video and virtualization with animation activities.
Assuming you are not loaded up with a number of other PCI slot cards etc. I think you are good to go.
You can always get a Kill A Watt power meter and check reality yourself (idle and load values).

Reply to bob_17

I have had a HD 5670 OCd to 900core/4800mem,
DVDrw,
WD Raptor 10k,
asus xonar dg PCI card,
ati theater 550 pro PCI card,
verbatim USB powered external drive,
OCd E4500 @ 2.93
running on a Dell 280w PSU with no problems
the HD 5670 according to AMD specs draws max 64w
it is a very low powered card
in my research on card I found users running it on 250w PSUs

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Reply to king smp

+1 ^^^

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Reply to djabhi003
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Okay thanks everyone for your reply's. I would have taken a picture of my psu but my camera is terrible, so I wrote some stuff down. I didn't have a clue so i just copied everything down :)

+12v - 19 amps
+3.3v - 18 amps
+5.08v - 25 amps
+5.08vsb - 2 amps
-12v - 0.3 amps

+5.08v + 12v cant exceed 268w
+5.08v + 3.3v cant exceed 175w

I was also looking around on it to see if i could find the brand, at the bottom it said delta electronics, so if this means anything.

If it's not ok to run a 5670 on this psu could you recommend a graphics card better than the 4550 which can?

Reply to li4m53

Thats 19Amps On The +12V, Which Means 19 x 12 = 228W!(The +12V Railing is the one that supplies your Card Power)
Now Your 5670 Is Going To Use 76W At Load!(Say 90W Just In Case Of High Spikes)!

 

Now A 250W Delta Smps Is The One That I Had Too(Its Said Max 240W Output)! But Yet I Used To Run A 9500GT Which Uses 104W At Full Load On It!
Now Yours Is A 300W Delta, So More Power. Besides The 5670 Uses A Lot Lesser Power Than A 9500GT!

 

And ATi 4xxx Cards Use More Than 100W Power For Your Info!
The 5670 Uses Less Power And Will Definitely Work On Yours! I Mean Don't Buy A Card Which Performs Less Than 5670 And Still Consumes More Power!


Message edited by djabhi003 on 08-03-2011 at 12:44:33 PM
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Reply to djabhi003

I run my HD 5670 on a 16amp 12v just fine
and actually according to AMD the HD 5670 max draw is 64w
http://www.amd.com/us/products/des [...] iew.aspx#2
you will see that at bottom of page

also you might want to watch this
I made these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B1 [...] re=related
that is Metro 2033 at 1280x1024 DX11 Very High setting
also this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqo [...] re=related
that is Crysis 2 at 1920x1080 DX9 Hardcore setting

any DX9 game will be great on the HD 5670
the DX11 games are the ones that strain the card
Most DX11 games like Metro 2033,Crysis 2 (with patch) and Dirt
will only be able to played at lower resolutions like 1280x1024
but the DX9 and DX10 games can be played at higher res
I can play Crysis Warhead DX10 at 1920x1080 Gamer setting

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Reply to king smp

Do remember with those videos
that they were recorded with FRAPS
so that the FPS is actually a little better without the recording software

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Reply to king smp

Delta is one of the better PSU manufacturers so you have a good 300w PSU.

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Reply to jaguarskx

Only way your going to hammer the nail is if you try it. These guys have very valid points, 64w TDW is a very low power consuming card. You should be fine, I just have the annoying habit of harping off Manufacturer's Recommendations...A+ Cert, FTW. But they are absolutely right, 19v x 12v = 228w total on your main line, your card is going to pull around 64 under normal conditions, and a very safe estimate is what our friend DJ said 90w so we can safely assume:

19*24=228-90(worse case scenario)=138w left for your system, plus what the other rails provide. So when you tak einto the fact the HDD and ODD run off serperate rails you should be okay...for me personally..little too low, but for someone on a budget go for it.

+1 to DJ for the easy eye breakdown :)


Message edited by frankthetank909 on 08-04-2011 at 12:38:55 AM
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