About unlock codes

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I bought a Motorolla Razr 3 without going through Cingular... I did not
realize that I could not use it with another company... I'm with Cingular
now but what if I decided to go with Verizon? How would I use my phone
with them?

The point I'm making is that if I bought the phone w/o going through
Cingular why would they have control over the phone so that I can't unlock
it?

Babs

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First of all forget about a phone being locked. Most importantly, Cingular
and Verizon phones work differently and there is no way in the world that a
Cingular phone will ever work on the Verizon network. The Cingular phone
works only on a GSM Network while the Verizon phone only works on a CDMA
network.

If you can get your Cingular phone unlocked it will only work on a GSM
network such as T-Mobile.

Bruce D. Brown

"BubblyBabs" <bubblybabs_at_fractalfairy_dot_com@ng.com> wrote in message
news:Qxjre.94989$CR5.59806@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>I bought a Motorolla Razr 3 without going through Cingular... I did not
> realize that I could not use it with another company... I'm with Cingular
> now but what if I decided to go with Verizon? How would I use my phone
> with them?
>
> The point I'm making is that if I bought the phone w/o going through
> Cingular why would they have control over the phone so that I can't unlock
> it?
>
> Babs
>
>

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Phone manufacturers don't sell phones to consumers, but instead the
cell network providers. Consequently, they (Motorola in this case)
please the customer by adhering to their requirements. In the case of
the Razr, the only US provider selling the Razr is Cingular due to
exclusive launch agreements. Cingular requires that Motorola subsidy
lock the phone to a Cingular SIM card. Like the previous posters, the
phone can be unlocked by "other means" or by simply asking Cingular for
the unlock code. How do you know if you phone is unlocked? Put another
provider's SIM card in the phone and see if the phone recognizes their
network. If it prompts you for an unlock code, your phone is locked. Do
not attempt to guess the code or this will just make your life more
miserable!

Also keep in mind that US Razr's are loaded with a software
configuration that is optimized to Cingular. Using the phone on another
GSM provider's network may require some tweaking to get the GPRS (data)
connection working. But for the most part, the ability to make voice
calls will work on any GSM network.

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BubblyBabs wrote:
> Thanks for that info... One reason I wanted to know is because someone at
> work has Verizon and they want this phone and I didn't know Verizon can't
> use Cingular phones (I'm new to this), I also wanted to know why in case I
> changed service providers in the future (looks like I don't have much choice
> now does it?).. But, the main reason is because I just feel that if I buy a
> phone I like I shouldn't be forced into buy another phone to use another
> provider... Doesn't that sound odd to you?
>
> Babs

The biggest issue here is not that Cingular has locked the phone (though
it is annoying), but it's that Cingular's technology works differently
than Verizon's.

Think of it this way, Cingular's technology speaks German, and Verizon's
technology speaks Chinese. Even if you could introduce a Cingular phone
to Verizon, they wouldn't understand each other, and there's no way to
make the Cingular phone learn Chinese.

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Motorola has released a CDMA version of the RAZR in Korea this month.
They have announced plans to release a US CDMA RAZR as well in about 6
months. Among the differences between the GSM and CDMA... the korean
CDMA version has a nicer camera and be 1mm thicker. The US version
will probably be very similar to the korean one.

Although there is speculation, it has not yet been announced/decided
which US CDMA provider will offer the RAZR. Sprint/Nextel and Verizon
are the largest CDMA networks, so it probably depends on which provider
will give motorola the best deal.

Personally, I am hoping that Sprint will offer it since Verizon has a
nasty habit of removing features on phones in order to get customers to
pay them for services that do the same thing. Also, I use sprint and
haven't replaced my StarTac because i've never found a worthy successor
to it (the Timeport had a similar design but was too bulky). However,
the RAZR is clearly the heir-apparent. It is almost the exact same
dimensions of my StarTac with the flat battery inserted (and the
antennae clipped). I've been patiently waiting for a CDMA version ever
since I saw the zingular GSM model.

The US CDMA RAZR is due in early 2006. Lets hope it doesn't go for
$400 like the GSM was 6 months ago when I first saw it (it has now
dropped to ~$100)

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<machXS1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118714953.126061.305530@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Phone manufacturers don't sell phones to consumers, but instead the
> cell network providers. Consequently, they (Motorola in this case)
> please the customer by adhering to their requirements. In the case of
> the Razr, the only US provider selling the Razr is Cingular due to
> exclusive launch agreements. Cingular requires that Motorola subsidy
> lock the phone to a Cingular SIM card. Like the previous posters, the
> phone can be unlocked by "other means" or by simply asking Cingular for
> the unlock code. How do you know if you phone is unlocked? Put another
> provider's SIM card in the phone and see if the phone recognizes their
> network. If it prompts you for an unlock code, your phone is locked. Do
> not attempt to guess the code or this will just make your life more
> miserable!
>
> Also keep in mind that US Razr's are loaded with a software
> configuration that is optimized to Cingular. Using the phone on another
> GSM provider's network may require some tweaking to get the GPRS (data)
> connection working. But for the most part, the ability to make voice
> calls will work on any GSM network.


A source for the phone you can't buy, except from Cingular.
http://www.myworldphone.com/razrblack.html

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