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$1000-1500 Gaming PC (need help)

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October 5, 2011 12:02:46 AM

MOBO: ASUS P8P67-M PRO B3, Socket-1155 m-ATX, P67, DDR3, 2xPCIe(2.0)x16, CFX& SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, FW, EFI | 168USD
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 Midi Tower Sort Vifter: 1x 200mm Front, 1x 200mm Topp, 1x 120mm | 165USD
200mm fan: 1x Cooler Master MegaFlow 200 Red LED Fan 200 x 200 x 30mm, 700 RPM, 110 CFM, 19 dBA, 3 Pin, 3-4 pin Adapter | 30USD
120mm fan: 1xCooler Master SickleFlow 120mm Red LED Fan 120 x 120 x 25mm, 2000 RPM, 69.69 CFM, 19 dBA, 3 to 4-pin Adapter | 19USD
RAM: Corsair Dominator DHX DDR3 1600MHz 8GB Kit w/2x 4GB XMS3 DHX, CL9-9-9-24, for Core i3/i5/i7, w/Connector, 1.65v | 136
PSU: Fractal Design Newton R2 1000W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus, Modular, 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 135mm Fan | 216USD
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.3Ghz, 6MB, 95W, Boxed w/fan | 285USD
CPU Heatsink: Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler Socket 775/1155/1156/1366, AM2/AM2+/AM3, 1300 RPM, 110,3 m³/h, 19,8 dBA | 125USD
Graphics card (SLI): 2x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti 1GB PhysX PCI-Express 2.0, "Twin Frozr II" |260USD x2 = 521USD
Total: 1675USD

Is there anywhere i can shave off a few bucks and still keep the performance?
I have thought about buying 1x 560ti and upgrading to SLI later, but i fear it will be very weak with only 1.



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October 5, 2011 12:34:30 AM

Get this psu which is almost $100 cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'd also change the motherdoard to this it's a full size board and i don't think the one you picked allows sli :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also one GTX 560ti is pretty quick. I have a GTX 470 and have no issues playing games at 1080p. If you're still tight on cash after those changes buy one gpu first and if you're not happy it takes very little effort to add the other one later.
October 5, 2011 12:35:23 AM

Without studying every detail, it sounds like you have the answer. Buy one card now, and a second card sometime down the line. As for 'very weak' performance from one 560ti, your expectations exceed mine.
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October 5, 2011 12:39:43 AM

wip99gt said:
Get this psu which is almost $100 cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'd also change the motherdoard to this it's a full size board and i don't think the one you picked allows sli :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also one GTX 560ti is pretty quick. I have a GTX 470 and have no issues playing games at 1080p. If you're still tight on cash after those changes buy one gpu first and if you're not happy it takes very little effort to add the other one later.


Wish i could, but Newegg.com only ships to the US. (I live in Norway)

Quote:
Does Newegg.com ship internationally?
Newegg.com does not currently ship internationally; we only deliver to locations within the United States and to Puerto Rico
October 5, 2011 12:56:50 AM

wip99gt said:
Get this psu which is almost $100 cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'd also change the motherdoard to this it's a full size board and i don't think the one you picked allows sli :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also one GTX 560ti is pretty quick. I have a GTX 470 and have no issues playing games at 1080p. If you're still tight on cash after those changes buy one gpu first and if you're not happy it takes very little effort to add the other one later.


As you can see, i chose the GTX 570, and i save about 180bucks. and rather get a second one later for SLI 570s

How does that sound? compared to SLI 560ti's

But i'm still at $1547 which is VERY pricey compared to some other builds on here (with same specs)

NewEgg.com and Amazon do not ship to Norway, and i feel EBay is rather risky.

What would be your advice here?
October 5, 2011 12:58:36 AM

Drop the Noctua, waste of money.
Get either the Hyper 212+ or the Hyper 612 OR the Hyper 212 Evo, all are better if not close to the Noctua's performance for much less.

As for Boards, get the Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 or the GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 both would be better for the money and give you a larger form factor.

Drop the Dominators, waste of money and virtually no performance benefit. Get the G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3 1600, the cheapest ones.

Get the Antec HCG750 or the Lepa 850 or the OCZ ZS 750 all would be enough power and save you money.
October 5, 2011 1:18:51 AM

aznshinobi said:
Drop the Noctua, waste of money.
Get either the Hyper 212+ or the Hyper 612 OR the Hyper 212 Evo, all are better if not close to the Noctua's performance for much less.

As for Boards, get the Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 or the GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 both would be better for the money and give you a larger form factor.

Drop the Dominators, waste of money and virtually no performance benefit. Get the G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3 1600, the cheapest ones.

Get the Antec HCG750 or the Lepa 850 or the OCZ ZS 750 all would be enough power and save you money.

Intresting.

What i found:
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus OR Cooler Master Hyper 612S
(These are the only ones available, Hyper 212 being very cheap at $60 . and Hyper 612S costing $90)

Motherboard: The Asrock is no where to be found (that ships to Norway) and for the GIGABYTE I only found a
Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3, Socket-1155
mATX, Z68, DDR3, 3xPCIe(2.0)x16, CFX&SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, VGA, DVI, HDMI

which has:
1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 ( x16-modus )
1 x PCI Express x16 ( x8-modus )
1 x PCI Express x16 ( x4-modus )
1 x PCI Express x1

(Bad for SLI if I am right).

RAM: The G.Skill Ripjaws are rare here, (I can get them from a dodgy site at the same price as the Dominators) Is it really that much difference?

PSU: I can get the ANTEC HCG for a bit cheaper than the 1000W i had picked out. ($50 cheaper) from the same dodgy site.
Again, is it that much better?

(I know living in Norway sucks :)  we cant get all the gadgets)



October 5, 2011 1:22:02 AM

I just want to point out, i am not trying to find faults. I HIGHLY appreciate you guys helping me, but the ones you talk about are really rare here.

Amazon / NewEgg do not ship to Norway.
October 5, 2011 1:27:26 AM

no, x8/x8 will be fine for sli, it's pretty much the standard. you honestly don't need 1000w for 2 gtx 560 ti, you could probably get away with 750w, but 850w to be safe. personally, avoiding dodgy sites is probably a good choice, especially for the psu, as a bad one can fry all of your other components.
October 5, 2011 1:28:56 AM

Update: I did find a

ASRock P67 Extreme6, socket 1155
Sandy Bridge, ATX, DDR3, 3xPCI-E x16, SATA3 6Gbps, USB3, FireWire 400, UEFI
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With 8x8 SLI
But its a bit more expensive than the ASUS.
October 5, 2011 1:31:51 AM

morgoth780 said:
no, x8/x8 will be fine for sli, it's pretty much the standard. you honestly don't need 1000w for 2 gtx 560 ti, you could probably get away with 750w, but 850w to be safe. personally, avoiding dodgy sites is probably a good choice, especially for the psu, as a bad one can fry all of your other components.



yes a 8x8 is what I am looking for

Quote:
Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3, Socket-1155
mATX, Z68, DDR3, 3xPCIe(2.0)x16, CFX&SLI, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, VGA, DVI, HDMI
has:
1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 ( x16-modus )
1 x PCI Express x16 ( x8-modus )
1 x PCI Express x16 ( x4-modus )
1 x PCI Express x1


(1x8 and 1x4)
Which is not 8x8 If i am correct.
(I am new to this)
October 5, 2011 1:36:29 AM

Quote:
morgoth780 wrote :

no, x8/x8 will be fine for sli, it's pretty much the standard. you honestly don't need 1000w for 2 gtx 560 ti, you could probably get away with 750w, but 850w to be safe. personally, avoiding dodgy sites is probably a good choice, especially for the psu, as a bad one can fry all of your other components.


And as for the Power supply,

The cheapest I can find is: ¨

Corsair GS 800W PSU $167
or
Corsair TX V2 850W PSU $168
And what i had:
Fractal Design Newton R2 1000W $216

Im guessing the TX V2 is the best choice?
October 5, 2011 1:42:14 AM

elyo said:
Quote:
morgoth780 wrote :

no, x8/x8 will be fine for sli, it's pretty much the standard. you honestly don't need 1000w for 2 gtx 560 ti, you could probably get away with 750w, but 850w to be safe. personally, avoiding dodgy sites is probably a good choice, especially for the psu, as a bad one can fry all of your other components.


And as for the Power supply,

The cheapest I can find is: ¨

Corsair GS 800W PSU $167
or
Corsair TX V2 850W PSU $168
And what i had:
Fractal Design Newton R2 1000W $216

Im guessing the TX V2 is the best choice?


i'd say yes, cause it never hurts to have 50 extra watts...
and my understanding was the the mobo had x16, x8, and x4. so you would just sli/cfx in the x16 and x8 slots
unless i was interpreting something incorrectly?
edit: i did misinterpret something. theres only 1 pci express 2.0, you would need 2 2.0 slots
October 5, 2011 1:47:23 AM

The TX would be the best for the money. I'd have to say that going with the Hyper 212+ or the Hyper 612 is good. Especially since it is cheaper, Also go with the D2H if it is cheaper. It'll perform roughly the same but save money.
October 5, 2011 1:49:46 AM

morgoth780 said:
i'd say yes, cause it never hurts to have 50 extra watts...
and my understanding was the the mobo had x16, x8, and x4. so you would just sli/cfx in the x16 and x8 slots
unless i was interpreting something incorrectly?

You know more about this than me. If the GTX 560ti has an Express 2.0 port (and a normal express)
then i guess you are right. because at the moment what i see is:
1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 ( x16-modus )
1 x PCI Express x16 ( x8-modus )
1 x PCI Express x16 ( x4-modus )
1 x PCI Express x1

____________________________________________________________________________________________
Also, i put together what i could find on the "Dodgy" site, (had some mixed reviews online)
and i got this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/pc3s.jpg/

Costing me $1408 Included shipping.
($270 less than before) but "dodgy"
Please post thoughts

October 5, 2011 1:53:07 AM

Forgot the power supply. but still should be cheaper
October 5, 2011 1:57:54 AM

mobo seems good, as is everything else
except your graphics card...I can't tell from the picture if it's a gtx 560 ti or just gtx 560
if it's just gtx 560, you might as well get gtx 460 and save some money. but it would be worthwhile to get 2 gtx 560 ti.
October 5, 2011 2:07:47 AM

morgoth780 said:
mobo seems good, as is everything else
except your graphics card...I can't tell from the picture if it's a gtx 560 ti or just gtx 560
if it's just gtx 560, you might as well get gtx 460 and save some money. but it would be worthwhile to get 2 gtx 560 ti.

My fault. I did mean to get the Ti

And on this site, i can get the following PSU's (cheapest):

850W: ANTEC 850W CP-850 ATX V2.3/EPS $170
900W: MAXCUBE Arsenal 900W ATX Switching $185
1KW: CHIEFTEC A-135 Series 1000W PSU ATX $201

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/pc4g.jpg/
Which brings me to a new total of: $1681 (Included shipping)
October 5, 2011 2:11:28 AM

aznshinobi said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That board is fine. It may say that on that site but clearly the specs are wrong.

Is there the Asrock Extreme4 P67?


ASRock P67 Extreme6, socket 1155 Sandy Bridge, ATX, DDR3, 3xPCI-E x16, SATA3 6Gbps, USB3, FireWire 400, UEFI Bios (P67-EXTREME6-)

Is the one i have picked at the moment.
They have 9 in total:

http://www.multicom.no/SearchResult.aspx?q=fd:c_101335;kw:Asrock

The site is in norwegian, but the mobo should be written in english. (click them for more info about them)
October 5, 2011 2:21:20 AM

how much would the shipping be for the trusted site? I personally think it's the better choice, unless you have like $400 shipping or something outrageous like that...
October 5, 2011 2:27:11 AM

Uploaded the wrong images
The new prices are both including shipping
Shipping only:
Trusted site is: $68
Dodgy site: $50

(check the photos again
October 5, 2011 2:29:40 AM

morgoth780 said:
how much would the shipping be for the trusted site? I personally think it's the better choice, unless you have like $400 shipping or something outrageous like that...



So now the prices are almost identical. but the components are different. so take a look, and see what would be the best choice

the trusted site being cheaper, but different ram, different PSU, different heatsink and Mobo
October 5, 2011 2:38:35 AM

go with trusted site. It's slightly cheaper, and the asus board will give you sli
October 5, 2011 2:39:18 AM

Thank you
October 5, 2011 2:57:55 AM



That brings the dodgy site to: $1653 (Included shipping)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/pc4g.jpg/
(with the board you linked)

And the trusted site to: $1668 (Included shipping)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/pc6a.jpg/


So still very close call pricewize, So its down to the components:

would you say the components on the dodgy site are worth saving 10bucks? (plus its dodgy)
or would you go for the trusted site.

October 5, 2011 3:17:17 AM

Can you please give us the trusted site?
October 5, 2011 3:37:11 AM

No problem. Good luck!
!