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January 5, 2012 9:12:38 AM

Hi I am going to buy and assemble a gaming pc by myself but was wondering which is better for gaming a 2.8 ghz 6 core or a 3.5 ghz 4 core, I am refering to amd.

I heard that games only use max 4 cores, is it true?

Also which will last longer since this will be my last pc and I want it to last about 4-5 years.

I plan on buying a m5a97 asus motherboard with 8 ram and a redeon 5670.

so which one of those 2 cpu's will work better with my pc?

(remember I plan on using it for gaming.)

Thanks. :bounce: 

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January 5, 2012 9:18:23 AM

Help a south african said:
Hi I am going to buy and assemble a gaming pc by myself but was wondering which is better for gaming a 2.8 ghz 6 core or a 3.5 ghz 4 core, I am refering to amd.

I heard that games only use max 4 cores, is it true?

Also which will last longer since this will be my last pc and I want it to last about 4-5 years.

I plan on buying a m5a97 asus motherboard with 8 ram and a redeon 5670.

so which one of those 2 cpu's will work better with my pc?

(remember I plan on using it for gaming.)

Thanks. :bounce: 

It depends what types of cpus are they like Phenom, Athlon or FX
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January 5, 2012 9:41:00 AM

The graphics card is horribly underpowered for even a quad-core. Squeeze as much money as possible into the graphics (it is a gaming pc, as you said)

Although the 7000 series cards are out this month, so you'd be better off waiting and getting one of those.
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January 5, 2012 9:44:13 AM

im looking at a phenom II x6 2.8 ghz 1055t vs a phenom II x4 3.4 ghz 965
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January 5, 2012 9:47:30 AM

kinggraves said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Quad core CPU and integrated graphics would combine with 6670 for hybrid crossfire.

Not sure if the A8 would be available for South Africa yet.

The motherboard you wanted is AM3+ not FM1 and i suggest NOT to buy built in graphics buy it seperetly i suggest AMD FX-4100 for gaming its cheap and effective, also some games like Crysis 2 use 4 cores and rarly but some new games like mafia 2 use six cores agin the AMD FX is cheap and to let you know the HUGE dissadvantage of buying cpu and graphice together is that your going to have to buy a whole new cpu to upgrade your graphice and your gonna have to buy whole new graphics to upgrade your cpu!
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January 5, 2012 9:51:57 AM

Pherule said:
The graphics card is horribly underpowered for even a quad-core. Squeeze as much money as possible into the graphics (it is a gaming pc, as you said)

Although the 7000 series cards are out this month, so you'd be better off waiting and getting one of those.


ok so what if I had a

- Axle 3D ATI Radeon HD5770 1GB GDDR5
or
- TWINTECH GTS450 2GB DDR5
or
- Axle 3D NVIDIA GTX460 768MB GDDR5

which cpu should i then choose
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January 5, 2012 9:57:34 AM

melikepie said:
The motherboard you wanted is AM3+ not FM1 and i suggest NOT to buy built in graphics buy it seperetly i suggest AMD FX-4100 for gaming its cheap and effective, also some games like Crysis 2 use 4 cores and rarly but some new games like mafia 2 use six cores agin the AMD FX is cheap and to let you know the HUGE dissadvantage of buying cpu and graphice together is that your going to have to buy a whole new cpu to upgrade your graphice and your gonna have to buy whole new graphics to upgrade your cpu!


Unfortunately the fx 4100 is not available in my area although the closest thing I van get is the phenom II 970 x4 3.5 ghz
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January 5, 2012 9:59:18 AM

Help a south african said:
ok so what if I had a

- Axle 3D ATI Radeon HD5770 1GB GDDR5
or
- TWINTECH GTS450 2GB DDR5
or
- Axle 3D NVIDIA GTX460 768MB GDDR5

which cpu should i then choose

if you want bette poformance buy a 4 core but you want to do better multitasking buy the 6 core

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This is a MSI 990XA-GD55 Your Not Losing Anything Buying This.

The board is the one i use and it comes with overclock genie 2 which speeds the cpu of 400mhz per core (at least thats how fast it worked for me) it will give a better poformance out of the 6 core, i would buy the 6 core and this board if i were you you enable this in the BIOS and you can disabble this in the BIOS, there is a clear CMOS button on the back just in case. Anyway buy this and a cpu you want and at anytime you can spees up your cpu without having to know much about overclocking.
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January 5, 2012 10:03:48 AM

melikepie said:
if you want bette poformance buy a 4 core but you want to do better multitasking buy the 6 core

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This is a MSI 990XA-GD55 Your Not Losing Anything Buying This.

The board is the one i use and it comes with overclock genie 2 which speeds the cpu of 400mhz per core (at least thats how fast it worked for me) it will give a better poformance out of the 6 core, i would buy the 6 core and this board if i were you you enable this in the BIOS and you can disabble this in the BIOS, there is a clear CMOS button on the back just in case. Anyway buy this and a cpu you want and at anytime you can spees up your cpu without having to know much about overclocking.


That board is not available in my area i can only buy asus boards
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January 5, 2012 10:07:10 AM

Help a south african said:
ok so what if I had a

- Axle 3D ATI Radeon HD5770 1GB GDDR5
or
- TWINTECH GTS450 2GB DDR5
or
- Axle 3D NVIDIA GTX460 768MB GDDR5

which cpu should i then choose


All of those are old, weak cards and should barely be considered viable. In the current range, you should look at the 6850 at the very least. But before we go there, let me ask:

What are you planning on running/playing?
What is your budget?
Are you buying the entire pc or just some parts?

Again I'll recommend waiting for the 7000 series cards. They may be on average up to 50% faster than the current series, and will run on lower power requirements and be cooler because of the die-shrink. Google them if you haven't already.
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January 5, 2012 10:09:57 AM

Help a south african said:
That board is not available in my area i can only buy asus boards

That's very sad... but anyway the difference between those speeds are not that bad i recomend the 6 core beacause maybe you can overclock (if you dont know how to maunnauly overclock reasearch it) int 4-5 years 4 cores might be outdated now minumum system requirments for most games are moving from duel core 2.0ghz to triple core 2.0ghz-2.5ghz next quad core but anyway 6 core would do fine, can you buy a AMD Phenom II 1100T?
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January 5, 2012 10:12:32 AM

Pherule said:
All of those are old, weak cards and should barely be considered viable. In the current range, you should look at the 6850 at the very least. But before we go there, let me ask:

What are you planning on running/playing?
What is your budget?
Are you buying the entire pc or just some parts?

Again I'll recommend waiting for the 7000 series cards. They may be on average up to 50% faster than the current series, and will run on lower power requirements and be cooler because of the die-shrink. Google them if you haven't already.


Since I live in South Africa its very hard to find good prices but my budget is +/- R6000 which is about 550 Ueros, I plan on playing games like crysis, assassins creed and mass effect 3. I am buying all my components seperatly and assembling them myself so im basically buying a hole pc

Again the 7000 series arent available (yet) in my area
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January 5, 2012 10:16:27 AM

If anyone would like to im only going to buy all my parts from this shop www.vtechnologies.co.za it has the best prices in South africa so feel free to go there. my budget is R6000 so you can give me suggestion. please help me by going to that shop when you suggest certain parts thank you
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January 5, 2012 10:20:42 AM

Using a calutlater 6000 is about $730, why don't you buy from newegg.com?

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January 5, 2012 10:23:16 AM

sorry just retry I just fixed it.
Can newegg deliver to South Africa
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January 5, 2012 10:32:09 AM

Help a south african said:
Since I live in South Africa its very hard to find good prices but my budget is +/- R6000 which is about 550 Ueros, I plan on playing games like crysis, assassins creed and mass effect 3. I am buying all my components seperatly and assembling them myself so im basically buying a hole pc

Again the 7000 series arent available (yet) in my area

I know. The 7000 series aren't available ANYWHERE yet except for testing purposes (I believe Tomshardware managed to get hold of one) I wouldn't normally recommend waiting for new hardware, but the 7000 series is literally just around the corner, and will provide a significant enough performance increase (+ power reduction, run cooler etc.) that it is still recommended. Take it from someone who has been waiting since the middle of 2011.

Anyhow, I digress. On the subject of graphics, many people make the mistake of focusing more on the CPU and less on the graphics. If you're making a gaming rig, put more money into the graphics than you put into the CPU.

CPU: Why not get a Sandy Bridge i3? An i5 would be ideal, but that may be a bit out of your price range.

Hard drive: Re-use an old drive if you can. Since the floods, HDD's have become very expensive, and if you can hold back on buying a new one, you could put more money into graphics.

melikepie said:
Using a calutlater 6000 is about $730, why don't you buy from newegg.com?

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The prices don't translate directly. Hardware in South Africa is significantly more expensive.

Help a south african said:
sorry just retry I just fixed it.
Can newegg deliver to South Africa

Not recommended.
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January 5, 2012 10:32:57 AM

Help a south african said:
sorry just retry I just fixed it.
Can newegg deliver to South Africa

I don't know i don't live in south africa but try to sing up if it askes your adress try to sing up living in south amarica then you can probely order your parts i reccomend

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI 990XA-GD55

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-4100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Kingston 8gb RAM Duel Channel (2 x 4gb)
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January 5, 2012 10:36:06 AM

melikepie said:
I don't know i don't live in south africa but try to sing up if it askes your adress try to sing up living in south amarica then you can probely order your parts i reccomend

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI 990XA-GD55

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-4100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Kingston 8gb RAM Duel Channel (2 x 4gb)

How do those parts get from a made up address in South America to an address in South Africa? :heink: 
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January 5, 2012 10:36:41 AM

Pherule said:
I know. The 7000 series aren't available ANYWHERE yet except for testing purposes (I believe Tomshardware managed to get hold of one) I wouldn't normally recommend waiting for new hardware, but the 7000 series is literally just around the corner, and will provide a significant enough performance increase (+ power reduction, run cooler etc.) that it is still recommended. Take it from someone who has been waiting since the middle of 2011.

Anyhow, I digress. On the subject of graphics, many people make the mistake of focusing more on the CPU and less on the graphics. If you're making a gaming rig, put more money into the graphics than you put into the CPU.

CPU: Why not get a Sandy Bridge i3? An i5 would be ideal, but that may be a bit out of your price range.

Hard drive: Re-use an old drive if you can. Since the floods, HDD's have become very expensive, and if you can hold back on buying a new one, you could put more money into graphics.


The prices don't translate directly. Hardware in South Africa is significantly more expensive.


Not recommended.


ok thanks I considered ll of those things and ill wait for the 7000. I plan on buying the parts in may do you think the 7000 will be out by then
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January 5, 2012 10:38:20 AM

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January 5, 2012 10:38:53 AM

http://www.vtechnologies.co.za/index.php?page=shop.prod...

GTX560 TI
R2400

I don't know if it includes VAT or not, but if it does, then that is an absolute bargain.


http://www.vtechnologies.co.za/index.php?page=shop.prod...

I know you're not looking at an i5, but I saw this too.
i5 2500K
R1840

Again, ridiculously cheap. If these prices exclude VAT then someone needs to kick that company in the shin, that's dishonest advertisement.


Edit: nevermind, seems like the first link might actually be a GTX460. Ditch that site, it's a pile of crap. Go to prophecy.co.za instead when you do order. It seems to be down atm, but it shouldn't be down for long.
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January 5, 2012 10:41:15 AM

Mousemonkey said:
How do those parts get from a made up address in South America to an address in South Africa? :heink: 

i never said make up a adress i said try to sing up to see if it will allow a south amarica adress
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January 5, 2012 10:45:11 AM

Help a south african said:
ok thanks I considered ll of those things and ill wait for the 7000. I plan on buying the parts in may do you think the 7000 will be out by then

well since you know that buy the 6 core slightly overclock if possible buy the fx-4100 maybe overclock that if it is available where you live otherwise it woulds be a good reason to move but thats your dicision
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January 5, 2012 10:49:36 AM

Help a south african said:
um that is a 560 not a 460


Look at the top-left corner. It says "Axle 3D NVIDIA GTX460 1GB GDDR5"

Personally I would never buy from a site or store that gets technology messed up like that. It's either a 560TI or it's a 460, it can't be both. If they don't know what they're doing on their own webpage, it's likely they'll screw you over somehow by accident.
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January 5, 2012 10:56:20 AM

Pherule said:
Look at the top-left corner. It says "Axle 3D NVIDIA GTX460 1GB GDDR5"

Personally I would never buy from a site or store that gets technology messed up like that. It's either a 560TI or it's a 460, it can't be both. If they don't know what they're doing on their own webpage, it's likely they'll screw you over somehow by accident.


I cant find the "axle 3d nvidia gtx460 1gb gddr5."

What top left corner?
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January 5, 2012 10:58:36 AM

melikepie said:
i never said make up a adress i said try to sing up to see if it will allow a south amarica adress

And what good is that going to be to someone in South Africa? Do you not understand the concept of different countries? :heink: 
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January 5, 2012 11:02:39 AM

yup. pointless buying an fx chip unless your gonna be running a server. for gaming a fast quad core is much more effective than a slow hexicore.

the problem is S.A is predominantly a 3rd world country and as such top end hardware is both hard to find and very expensive in comparison to u.s prices. most of the lads i know form S.A actualy import from australia rather than the u.s. so maybe the op should look at some oz sites as i know they do export regularly to south africa.
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January 5, 2012 11:19:42 AM

If HEXiT is right, this is probably the best (and cheapest) online store in Australia:

http://pccasegear.com/
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January 5, 2012 11:33:09 AM

Help a south african said:
I cant find the "axle 3d nvidia gtx460 1gb gddr5."

What top left corner?


Nevermind, it was a link to another product. Horrible site navigation.

Go with that 560TI if you can (R2400), that's an excellent price if it's the real deal (unless you'd prefer to wait for the 7000 series)
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January 5, 2012 12:54:22 PM

Wil the 7000 series be out by may?

and how good will a redeon hd 5770 1gb ddr5 edition do with a amd phenom II qaud core 3.4 ghz do.
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January 5, 2012 2:26:40 PM

The 7000 series is coming out in January, so it should definitely be out by May. The 5770 card is good for running games on lower resolutions. If you're planning on playing on HD, aka 1920x1080 (and you should!) then the 5770 won't really suffice.
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January 5, 2012 4:08:49 PM

On the high end the 7970 is $550 USD, the 7950 is $450.

The mainstream 7650 is expected to be around $130 USD and the 7670 is estimated to be around $175.
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January 5, 2012 5:48:28 PM

jaguarskx said:
On the high end the 7970 is $550 USD, the 7950 is $450.

The mainstream 7650 is expected to be around $130 USD and the 7670 is estimated to be around $175.


7670 better not be $175, it's nothing but a relabeled 6670 already available to OEMs, it's still 40nm!




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January 5, 2012 5:52:09 PM

melikepie said:
i never said make up a adress i said try to sing up to see if it will allow a south amarica adress


Are you still in elementary school? What good would shipping a product to South America be when it needs to be in South Africa? South Africa is an African nation, it's not on the South American continent! I think it's time you looked at a globe or map of the world.
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January 6, 2012 7:29:36 AM

loneninja said:
Are you still in elementary school? What good would shipping a product to South America be when it needs to be in South Africa? South Africa is an African nation, it's not on the South American continent! I think it's time you looked at a globe or map of the world.

That was just a spelling error i ment try to try to sing up with a south africa adress!
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