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October 29, 2012 8:00:40 PM

I have an Acer Aspire E380-2E7L ( http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/Asp... ) desktop PC with an AMD AM2 Athlon 64 x 2 processor. It came with two 1 GB RAM-modules and on these RAM-modules it says "Apacer 1GB UNB PC2-4300 CL4". On the small individual memories soldered onto the PCB it says "Apacer KZZ AM485708EEJS5D 0640B TBC143-L83G". I wanted to upgrade to 4 GB so I bought two of these: http://www.corsair.com/en/memory-by-product-family/valu... If I remove my old RAM-modules and insert the two new RAM-modules, everything works fine. If I leave the two old RAM-modules in their original slots, and insert the two new RAM-modules into the two free slots, the computer does not boot up. I don't even get the option to jump to BIOS, it just beeps about every three seconds. If I swap places (the new RAM-modules goes where the old ones used to be and vice versa) then I come to the menu where I can select among Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, Safe Mode with Dos Prompt, etc. No matter what I select, after a few seconds I get the Blue Screen of Death and after an additional second, my computer reboots and I'm back at square one again. Can someone please tell what's wrong?

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October 29, 2012 8:21:19 PM

probably your issue is the RAM sticks are DIFFERENT. as is brand, timings or frequency or something of that order.. does it boot with just the two sticks from corsair?
October 29, 2012 8:22:46 PM

The RAM you purchased is faster than the stock RAM. The stock RAM has a speed of PC2-4300 (553 Mhz) and the ones you purchased have a speed of PC2-5300 (667 Mhz). When you buy RAM that is different than RAM you previously installed, it's key to buy the RAM with the same speed. What happens is the Faster RAM you bought is capped to the slower RAM's speed, 553 Mhz. This can cause compatibility errors in many cases. I suggest you take the RAM back and buy PC2-4300, or buy another of the same kit. It's your call.

Cheers.
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October 29, 2012 8:36:57 PM

Thanks for your replies.

Rockdpm said:
probably your issue is the RAM sticks are DIFFERENT. as is brand, timings or frequency or something of that order.. does it boot with just the two sticks from corsair?

Yes, it works fine with just the two sticks from Corsair.


keithmfr said:
The RAM you purchased is faster than the stock RAM. The stock RAM has a speed of PC2-4300 (553 Mhz) and the ones you purchased have a speed of PC2-5300 (667 Mhz). When you buy RAM that is different than RAM you previously installed, it's key to buy the RAM with the same speed. What happens is the Faster RAM you bought is capped to the slower RAM's speed, 553 Mhz. This can cause compatibility errors in many cases. I suggest you take the RAM back and buy PC2-4300, or buy another of the same kit. It's your call.

Cheers.

Ok, I see. So, if I understand you correctly, if I throw away my old memories and buy two more of the same Corsair memories, then it should work properly?
October 29, 2012 8:48:19 PM

arnold_w said:
Thanks for your replies.


Yes, it works fine with just the two sticks from Corsair.



Ok, I see. So, if I understand you correctly, if I throw away my old memories and buy two more of the same Corsair memories, then it should work properly?

Yes it would work correctly or should
October 29, 2012 9:44:19 PM

There is no reason it should not work properly. Only if the RAM is defective. Good luck mate.
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October 29, 2012 10:58:21 PM

keithmfr said:
There is no reason it should not work properly.

There is at least one reason it can fail: having four dual-sided DIMMs on each channel might exceed the RAM or CPU's IO current source/sink capacity. If you look at motherboards' qualified list, you see that some modules cannot be paired at all while others can only be paired with single-sided modules.
October 30, 2012 5:15:04 AM

InvalidError said:
There is at least one reason it can fail: having four dual-sided DIMMs on each channel might exceed the RAM or CPU's IO current source/sink capacity. If you look at motherboards' qualified list, you see that some modules cannot be paired at all while others can only be paired with single-sided modules.

What are dual and single sided modules? Is it the same as modules with small memory chips on only one side of the PCB and on both sides of the PCB, respectively? If so, then my old RAM-modules are dual-sided and the new RAM-modules are single sided. Can you please let me know where you found the motherboard's qualified list? I already ordered two more Corsair RAM-modules (of the same kind as previously) and if I open the packages I can't return them so I would like to feel sure it will actually work with four Corsair RAM-modules.
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October 30, 2012 11:32:38 AM

arnold_w said:
Can you please let me know where you found the motherboard's qualified list?

Prebuilt PCs rarely have a QVL since the computer vendor usually only approve own-branded or supplied parts. The next best thing in those cases is to use the DIMM manufacturer's own memory selection tool to see which DIMMs the vendor has tested with your particular PC.
October 30, 2012 6:53:46 PM

I have now inserted four identical Corsair RAM-modules and it does not work.
October 31, 2012 3:03:51 PM

Are there typically any RAM settings in BIOS I could try to play with?
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October 31, 2012 4:19:49 PM

If the problem you ran into is related to capacitive loading, dropping RAM clock to 1333 or 1066MHz might help.
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