1600€ Gaming PC

[Lumicko]

Hello everyone!
Sorry for the URL for first time did it bad and i cant Full edit

Approximate Purchase Date: This month

Budget Range: 1500-1900

System Usage from Most to Least Important: BF3, gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers,

Country of Origin: Slovakia

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe



I am considering buying a new computer, I will play BF3 I have looked at these parts
what do you guys think?

MONITOR - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079&cm_sp=Cat_Monitors-_-Weekly_Deal-_-24-236-079
INTEL 510 120GB SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042&Tpk=INTEL%20510%20120GB%20SSD
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180
INTEL Core i5-2500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
CORSAIR AX750 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016&Tpk=CORSAIR%20AX750
SAPPHIRE HD 6990 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102927&Tpk=SAPPHIRE%20HD%206990
Win 7 HomePremium or Proffesional 64bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series H100 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017&Tpk=CORSAIR%20Cooling%20Hydro%20Series%20H100
Not sure if AIR or Liquid Liquid its dangerous but better
ASUS P8P67 PRO (rev 3.1) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131771

 

[airborne11b]

1. Your monitor is garbage. You could run a $90 GPU and run BF3 at max setting with that junk resolution.

Get the EVGA Z68 board. Why settle for p67 board when the Z68 are about the same price?

Your CPU/ram choice is great. Cooler is fine.

Your PSU choice is crap. If you want to run high end cards like 580-590 or 6990 or whatever, you want 1000 watt+. This will give good power effeciency and leave room for adding SLI card in future. 750 watt is not going to cut it on the power hungry GPUs.

Also, you're GPU choice is lol. Get a 590 GTX, it runs almost as good as 2x 580s (about $1100 worth of GPUs) but it only costs $750. You can also combine it with another one in the future and run quad-SLI. Nvidia 3D and Nvidia multi monitor gaming works a LOT better then AMD's (See tom's 3D review). So you're setting yourself up for better future upgrades.

 

[Lumicko]

1. Your monitor is garbage. You could run a $90 GPU and run BF3 at max setting with that junk resolution.

Get the EVGA Z68 board. Why settle for p67 board when the Z68 are about the same price?

Your CPU/ram choice is great. Cooler is fine.

Your PSU choice is crap. If you want to run high end cards like 580-590 or 6990 or whatever, you want 1000 watt+. This will give good power effeciency and leave room for adding SLI card in future. 750 watt is not going to cut it on the power hungry GPUs.

Also, you're GPU choice is lol. Get a 590 GTX, it runs almost as good as 2x 580s (about $1100 worth of GPUs) but it only costs $750. You can also combine it with another one in the future and run quad-SLI. Nvidia 3D and Nvidia multi monitor gaming works a LOT better then AMD's (See tom's 3D review). So you're setting yourself up for better future upgrades.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-590.html
I think Radeon 6900 is better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015
Is enough? Didnt find 1000W

 

[Lumicko]

Someone else? What u say on this parts/configuration ?
i5 is better than i7 for games/BF3.... im right?

 

[G3ox]

Get a gtx 580 , the gtx 590 and 6990 are too overpriced and are extremely hot and loud.The gtx 580 will run all the current games at max detail at 1080p so you won't need an upgrade for the next few years.

 

[Lumicko]

About the CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series H100 dont know if AIR or Liquid Liquid is better but Liquid can bring me some problems im right? COMMENT also the other parts please!! Thx but fast i want buy it soon !!

 

[Lumicko]

New Configuration What do u think


SSD CRUCIAL M4 128GB
RAM CORSAIR 8GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Vengeance XMP
CPU INTEL Core i5-2500K
PSU CORSAIR AX850
GPU SAPHIRE HD 6950 Dirt 3 2x
OS Win 7 64 bit
HDD Samsung F3 7200 RPM
MOBO Asus P8Z68-V
COOLER Cooler Master Hyper 212+ / Thermalright HR-02 Macho / Scythe Mugen 3
MONITOR Asus VH238H
CASE CORSAIR 400R / CoolerMaster HAF (912/922) / Silverstone Raven - 120

 

[Lumicko]

CORSAIR 8GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Vengeance XMP is having 1.6 V someone said its not good and also this: Yes Vengeance is fine as long as the heat spreaders don't block the CPU cooler. You should make sure that the cooler you choose is compatible with tall heat spreaders - or just go with the low-profile Vengeance and this about the cooler 212+ and SM3 won't be compatible with tall heat spreaders as far as I know. I've read the 212+ can just about fit above the G.Skill Ripjaws heat spreaders, but Vengeance is taller. And I have the Scythe Mugen 2 which is about the same size and it can only fit low profile (= standard size) RAM under it. I'm not sure about Thermalright Hr02 macho with the fan installed.

 

[Lumicko]

So G.skill ripjaws x 1.5v series better than the Vengeance one or the Corsair XMP ?

Does the G.skill ripjaws x (2x4GB) 1600 MHZ 1.5 series support Asus MOBO P8Z68-V ?

 

[Lumicko]

And if will be ripjaws x series unavaliable for me then which RAM should i buy ?

 

[Lumicko]

CORSAIR 8GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Vengeance XMP supports 1.5V but there was the think about the Cooler is that true? because i dont understand it sry if im dumb

 

[Lumicko]

Well it could hinder you but there is also low profile versions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233196

About that GPU 6950 got Memory quantity 2GB and GTX570 got 1280 and also in GPU,Memory frequency is better 6950 so i rly dont know now if GTx570 2x or 6950 because 6950 is better

 

[Lumicko]

The 2Gb will make no difference at 1080p and the Nvidia Driver support is currently alot better.
The GTX 570 is on par with the 6970.

Which one GTX570? I mean if ZOTAC,GAINWARD,EVGA....

 

[Lumicko]

I would go for the EVGA.

Now about the GPUs i checked the prices

GTX 570 SLI costs around $100-150 more than 6950 crossfire, and GTX 580 is in itself $150 (or 60%) more expensive than a single 6950, while offering only ~20-25% more performance.

And AMD's crossfire scaling is better than NVIDIA's SLI scaling

 

[Lumicko]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/11/amd_69706950_cfx_nvidia_580570_sli_review/4
SLi 570's scale much higher.

Hm so GTX570 is like 6970 (better than 6950) ? but +60 Euros more than 6950.. hm

 

[Lumicko]

Does Asus P8Z68-V support CORSAIR 8GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Vengeance XMP Low Profile or G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHZ ?

 

[koogco]

I would consider a gen3 motherboard, to get PCI-E 3.0
But then, that might not be an issue for some years. Anyway, the extreme 3 Gen3 (or the extreme 4) from asrock seems nice for the price.
The corsair TX850 should be plenty for any single card but might be a bit close for two top cards.
Make sure your RAM are 1,5V (aparently more can cause issues with sandy bridge) and just buy some that are not tall, to be sure.
As for the graphics, just look at comparisons such as the charts here at toms to see what is best for your budget. I have heard good things about AMD's crossfire-scaling, but aparently some in here have heard otherwise.

For cases I really like the Raven rv02 EW myself, But check out some reviews and pick something you will not grow tired of looking at.

 

[Lumicko]

I would consider a gen3 motherboard, to get PCI-E 3.0
But then, that might not be an issue for some years. Anyway, the extreme 3 Gen3 (or the extreme 4) from asrock seems nice for the price.
The corsair TX850 should be plenty for any single card but might be a bit close for two top cards.
Make sure your RAM are 1,5V (aparently more can cause issues with sandy bridge) and just buy some that are not tall, to be sure.
As for the graphics, just look at comparisons such as the charts here at toms to see what is best for your budget. I have heard good things about AMD's crossfire-scaling, but aparently some in here have heard otherwise.

For cases I really like the Raven rv02 EW myself, But check out some reviews and pick something you will not grow tired of looking at.

Ah thats makin me rly chaotic.. about the GPU i mean seriously idk if 2x 6950 or 2x gtx570 if i have to play for 2xgtx570 +120euros more need be sure thats the better choice

BTW ANOTHER idea WHAT about 2x 6970 ??? Price same as GTx570
But 2x 6950 overlocked can make like 6970 and its less price but the difference isnt high with 6950 its 1932(euro) also included ( monitor ASUS VG236HE) and with 6970 its 2085(euro)

 

[koogco]

That seems like a good power supply (the gold rating alone should mean good components are used) And the single V12 rail means you don't have to worry about that part.
As for the GPU's, just try to compare the ones you are considering. Not all sli/crossfire solutions are on the toms charts, but try googling for reviews of them, and you can probably find some comparisons of any cards that are close in performance.
In the end it's your choice, and I don't know the top models well enough to make a good suggestion at the moment. But remember this; if in doubt about a single card vs 2 slower cards, get the single one (unless the two is way better performance for the same money)

 

[Lumicko]

Ok guys i think i go with 2x 6950 or only one card 6970/gtx570. But i think better 2x6950
And friend told me that if i overclock 2x6950 i would need 1000W is that true? And when i go for Corsair AX/TX850 then which one? TX or AX? (AX is gold and it cost more)
I think i will go for case CORSAIR 400R and cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212+ but if avaliable Thermalright HR-02 Macho then i go this.
I think i will go for the better monitor 120HZ 23" ASUS VG236HE but it cost +100 euros more than the Asus VH238H this got like 60MHZ+-
About the OS which Win7 64 bit? ( I mean if for example Proffesional)

When im thinking thats so stupid and funny lol if there isnt any ******* BF3 i wouldnot go for new pc i think lol

 

[Lumicko]

The AX is modular and TX is non modular.
Both are incredible psu's.
Be aware that the BF3 beta currently has issues with multi-gpu solutions.

Please asnwer/tell about everything i said ( the monitor, os...)

 

[Lumicko]

Windows home premium 64-bit is great.
Also if you want a better monitor the 120HZ is the one.

Yep i know but the price is damn high 1872 with this 120HZ and 1787 without (calculating with AX850 and it isn't worth paying for someone said also in some forum)
Also which 850W to get? TX or AX? or is there just normal one? i cant find it

 

[Lumicko]

The TX is cheaper the only difference is modular design and slightly better efficiency with the AX model.

So do you recommend for me CORSAIR TX850 V2 ? The difference beetwer AX and TX is 60euros

 

[koogco]

The TX model will use slightly more power to do the same, and will perhaps be a bit more unstable, allowing less overclocking (though both are so good, its little difference) If you care about the price, pick the TX.
Also, there are new versions called TXxxxM (such as TX850M) which are partly modular, if you want.

 

[Lumicko]

The TX model will use slightly more power to do the same, and will perhaps be a bit more unstable, allowing less overclocking (though both are so good, its little difference) If you care about the price, pick the TX.
Also, there are new versions called TXxxxM (such as TX850M) which are partly modular, if you want.

So i should go for CORSAIR TX850M ? Btw im checking this shop http://www.alza.cz/EN/