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GTX 460 SE 1GB Vs GTX 560 Ti 1GB

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August 6, 2011 4:39:33 AM

So.. I am having a PC built.. They have ordered the 460 while using my 550w psu. I have been researching benchmarks since and noticed the 460 seems to be low on the benchmarks. It seems like a decent card with the current games out but I want to make sure I can comfortably play the newer games coming out with high graphics ( BF3, D3, GW2, etc) I noticed the 560 Ti seems like it will be able to keep me running smooth in these newer games where the 460 might struggle. I have done the research and it would cost me 190$ more off newegg to upgrade to the 560 Ti and a modular/certified 700w psu.

My question to you is should I spend the extra 190$ and make the upgrade or hypothetically speaking, will the 460 SE 1gb be plenty for me in the near future?

Thanks.
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2011 5:22:22 AM

The GTX 560 Ti only uses about 30w more than the GTX 460 SE. If you need a new PSU for one you likely need it for the other as well(not saying that you need one though.)
As for the two cards the GTX 460 SE is the weakest of the GTX 460s. The GTX 560 Ti is approximately 50% faster at high resolutions. If you aren't playing at high resolutions then the GTX 460 SE would probably be ok.
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August 6, 2011 5:35:37 AM

As long as it isn't a no-name, or crap brand, PSU a 550w will be fine for a GTX560 Ti assuming you don't have a ridiculous number (like more than would fit in a normal case) of HDD's in your system.

You can actually SLI them on good 650w PSU's with a normal amount of HDD's in the system.
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August 6, 2011 6:16:54 AM

My monitor can run at 1080p. The guy at the computer shop said they recommend going 100watts+ above a card in the psu to guarantee a stable flow to everything.. I won't be running SLI as I'm already at 900$ spent(if I upgrade to the 560ti and 700w psu). This is also minus using my phenom x4 board and 8 gigs of ddr2. From what ou guys have said, I guess it's smart to move to the 560ti, but can I make due with a 650w psu? I would like a little breathing room for my pc power wise.
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August 6, 2011 6:24:35 AM

Here will be my specs with the 560ti.. I'll do my best here..

10000 rpm 300 gig western digital velociraptor
8 gig ddr2
MSI am3/am2+/am2 mobo
GTX 560ti 1gb
Rocketfish??? Modular 550w psu
Nzxt steel series case
"phenom 2 quad core" that's the best I know on the CPU but the guy said it would be fine. It's either 2.39 or 2.89ghz

Would the 550 psu be fine in this build? I game for long sessions. 6-8 hours sometimes.. Not sure if that makes a difference for power consumption.

I appreciate your help guys.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2011 7:35:40 AM

Your current PSU should be fine for that system and a GTX 560 Ti.
BTW what the "guy at the computer shop" told you was just BS.
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August 6, 2011 8:11:00 AM

Anyways. I researched the psu I had. It's the rocketfish 550 and it apparently runs at 500w. I put in my specs on a psi calculator and it said it recommends 523w. I figured I would go with this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... to give me some space to upgrade other parts in the future. I will be getting the EVGA 560ti 1gb
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2011 8:30:17 AM

Your system should use nowhere near that amount of power. You do not need a new power supply. The one you have is rather good and can provide 36a or 432w on the +12v rails.
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August 6, 2011 8:35:37 AM

But the recommended wattage for the card is 500? I am so confused.
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August 6, 2011 8:49:14 AM

Can someone please explain to me exactly what I need or don't need? I do know that I don't want my pc running at the bare minimum for power
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 6, 2011 8:50:51 AM

zo0m said:
But the recommended wattage for the card is 500? I am so confused.

Yes, and you have a 500w PSU and it's a pretty good one. The recommended power requirements for video cards are something you should basically ignore. The GTX 560 Ti actually uses about 150w during normal gaming. Where do they get the 500w number from? By making assumptions. Basically they assume both that your system is fully decked out and the quality of your PSU is rather poor. Neither of these things are true in your case.
Your CPU is probably either 95 or 125w and your card will use about 150w. That leaves over 150w on your +12v rail which should easily cover the rest of the components in your system.
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August 6, 2011 1:28:58 PM

In the near future, I will be adding a better mobo, i7, 2x the ram in ddr3, and possibly another raptor in raid 0. Pretty sure I'm going to need at least a 650w psu by then?
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August 6, 2011 3:12:48 PM

zo0m said:
In the near future, I will be adding a better mobo, i7, 2x the ram in ddr3, and possibly another raptor in raid 0. Pretty sure I'm going to need at least a 650w psu by then?

Not really, no. Your components won't always be taking their maximum load. A maxed overclocked 560 Ti will draw about 300w at peak times only with a voltage increase and only about 150w during normal game sessions. Considerably less if you don't overclock or only overclock a little. You will almost always have way more than 200w to work with which will be more than enough to power your CPU, Fans, and HDD/SDD's.
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August 6, 2011 3:19:24 PM

zo0m said:
Another question.. Should I go with the twin frozr 2 560ti for the second fan or the EVGA for general quality. I noticed a lot of people were having issues with the frozr whereas people were generally accepting and loving their EVGA model.. My nzxt case has a like 4 fans already.. Thanks.

Post from other thread.

I've had my Frozr II for a couple of months now and it has been incredible. I haven't seen a temperature above 65 degrees Centigrade yet. It can also be overclocked quite a ways up and mine has given me great performance in every game I've tried it with.
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August 6, 2011 6:40:18 PM

zo0m said:
In the near future, I will be adding a better mobo, i7, 2x the ram in ddr3, and possibly another raptor in raid 0. Pretty sure I'm going to need at least a 650w psu by then?

Nah. The processor and the video card are the main components that use a lot of power. The Sandy Bridge i7s use 95w which is likely actually less than your current processor. I would recommend OCing a i5-2500K however as it is the best deal for the money by a lot at the moment and can OC a huge amount. 2x the RAM? What would you use that for? There's a good chance that you never even go over 4gb and you have 8gb now. Install a monitoring program and check out your actual RAM usage. Unless you are doing something that specifically uses a lot of memory I'll bet you already have more than you need. For hard drives I would recommend an SSD for a boot drive over another Raptor for RAID.
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August 6, 2011 7:17:18 PM

This is the info I was hoping for. Thanks a lot!
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