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Neither, instead I'd buy 8GB if this is for gaming and in a 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CAS 8 or 9 Kit @ 1.50v. Keep in mind if you have a Sandy Bridge CPU on the H77 you're limited to DDR3-1333 and only with an Ivy Bridge CPU can you achieve >DDR3-1600 'SPD' or higher. Also, 32-bit OSes are capped at 4GB of addressable memory so >4GB you'll need a 64-bit OS, and >16GB you'll also need e.g. Pro version if using Windows.

Q - What CPU?
Q - What use?

jaquith said:
Neither, instead I'd buy 8GB if this is for gaming and in a 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CAS 8 or 9 Kit @ 1.50v. Keep in mind if you have a Sandy Bridge CPU on the H77 you're limited to DDR3-1333 and only with an Ivy Bridge CPU can you achieve >DDR3-1600 'SPD' or higher. Also, 32-bit OSes are capped at 4GB of addressable memory so >4GB you'll need a 64-bit OS, and >16GB you'll also need e.g. Pro version if using Windows.

Q - What CPU?
Q - What use?

intel core i5 3570 3.4ghz
asus gtx 550ti 1gb
cooler master 450w extreme psu
uses are gaming,multimedia contents viweing,internet
if i had to buy a 8gb kit i need to go to a m-atx board which will be Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H but i'm worried about the power phases it has only 3+2 power phases
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Creating (16GB or more) but viewing a lot less, so for 'gaming' I'd look at the following:

$40 CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
$40 (in Blue) CML8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
/Same kit different colors, so it's interesting 5 vs 4 stars??!!/

The 'B75' adds Business security but deletes Intel SRT (SSD Caching) and either supports your Ivy Bridge CPU.

For an H77 I'd also look at the ASUS P8H77-V LE - http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8H7...

For a GPU, depending upon the games, either the HD 7850 or HD 7870. I like and use nVidia, but right now the prices on AMD GPU's are kind of hard to ignore.
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jaquith said:
Creating (16GB or more) but viewing a lot less, so for 'gaming' I'd look at the following:

$40 CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
$40 (in Blue) CML8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
/Same kit different colors, so it's interesting 5 vs 4 stars??!!/

The 'B75' adds Business security but deletes Intel SRT (SSD Caching) and either supports your Ivy Bridge CPU.

For an H77 I'd also look at the ASUS P8H77-V LE - http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8H7...

For a GPU, depending upon the games, either the HD 7850 or HD 7870. I like and use nVidia, but right now the prices on AMD GPU's are kind of hard to ignore.

i need to buy only processor,ram and mobo all others are already brought.in gaming and general computing i want to know the difference between 1333mhz and 1600mhz
i don't need intel srt because i will use the whole 64gb as my boot drive

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Memory Master

First, the MOBO all depends on the CPU you choose and in particular if you OC. Any LGA 1155 MOBO can be used with either a Sandy or Ivy Bridge CPU as long as the BIOS supports supports the CPU. For an Ivy Bridge CPU I Strongly recommend the newer Chipset's (e.g. B75, H77, Q77, Z75 & Z77).

The differences between DDR3-1333 and DDR3-1600 are very small and in gaming may account for +0~2FPS. My general advice is to look as I said '2x4GB DDR3-1600 CAS 8 or 9 Kit @ 1.50v' ; benchmarks:
4GB vs 8GB in gaming - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...
DDR3-1333 vs DDR3-1600 vs etc - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-...

Now as far as a 64GB boot SSD it's too small and frankly I'd either get a 128GB minimum sized SSD or use the 64GB SSD as a cache in Intel SRT (SSD Caching). Trust me on this one, 64GB is too small.

Therefore, all of this boils down to budget as it does for everyone. My minimums:
1. CPU: Intel i5 CPU (any) ; cheapest is the $180 i5-3330, but if you live close to a Micro Center even cheaper
2. RAM: 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CAS 8 or 9 Kit @ 1.50v ; see links above.
3. MOBO: Preferred brands in order: ASUS, Gigabyte & MSI, but ASRock offers a cheap but decent Z77 for OC'ing and SLI/CF the ASRock Z77 Extreme4.

Memory Master

Hurry this SSD deal is a no brainer:

$70 Samsung 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Use code for $20 off EMCJJNJ22

Other good deals:

$200 Intel Core i5-2500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Use code for $20 off EMCJJNJ33

$115 Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80 Corsair Carbide Series 500R - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$36 Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Use code for $5 off EMCJJNJ42

$12 ZALMAN CNPS5X - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

jaquith said:
First, the MOBO all depends on the CPU you choose and in particular if you OC. Any LGA 1155 MOBO can be used with either a Sandy or Ivy Bridge CPU as long as the BIOS supports supports the CPU. For an Ivy Bridge CPU I Strongly recommend the newer Chipset's (e.g. B75, H77, Q77, Z75 & Z77).

The differences between DDR3-1333 and DDR3-1600 are very small and in gaming may account for +0~2FPS. My general advice is to look as I said '2x4GB DDR3-1600 CAS 8 or 9 Kit @ 1.50v' ; benchmarks:
4GB vs 8GB in gaming - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...
DDR3-1333 vs DDR3-1600 vs etc - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-...

Now as far as a 64GB boot SSD it's too small and frankly I'd either get a 128GB minimum sized SSD or use the 64GB SSD as a cache in Intel SRT (SSD Caching). Trust me on this one, 64GB is too small.

Therefore, all of this boils down to budget as it does for everyone. My minimums:
1. CPU: Intel i5 CPU (any) ; cheapest is the $180 i5-3330, but if you live close to a Micro Center even cheaper
2. RAM: 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CAS 8 or 9 Kit @ 1.50v ; see links above.
3. MOBO: Preferred brands in order: ASUS, Gigabyte & MSI, but ASRock offers a cheap but decent Z77 for OC'ing and SLI/CF the ASRock Z77 Extreme4.

so finally i'm going with these specs
intel core i5 3570 3.4ghz
mobo:gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
ram:corsair vengeance 2x4gb 1600mhz CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
i' m not in usa but thank you very much for ur info

jaquith said:
Ah, didn't know your locale. Please heed my advice and get a 128GB+ SSD and you'll thank me later.

Good Luck & Enjoy! :sol: 

in usa an 128gig ssd is 80$ but i'm in india here a 64gig ssd costs 100$.ah an another question i have a core2duo E8400 3ghz cpu with a 4gb dual channel ddr2 ram i'm running a 9500gt 1gb card with it but i'm not able to run most of the games due to the gpu so can i buy a budget 80$ card and use it for 2 years i'm 19 now so when i get to a job i will upgrade my system fully my resolution is 1600x900 and i would like to play games like bf3 at medium res
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vishalaestro said:
in usa an 128gig ssd is 80$ but i'm in india here a 64gig ssd costs 100$.ah an another question i have a core2duo E8400 3ghz cpu with a 4gb dual channel ddr2 ram i'm running a 9500gt 1gb card with it but i'm not able to run most of the games due to the gpu so can i buy a budget 80$ card and use it for 2 years i'm 19 now so when i get to a job i will upgrade my system fully my resolution is 1600x900 and i would like to play games like bf3 at medium res

BF3 is all about the GPU, and not the CPU so as long as you have a decent GPU and 8GB of RAM BF3 plays well. /edit - most other games however are not that way where the CPU plays an integral role in rendering (FPS) along with the GPU(s).

note: many SSD's, some OCZ's in particular, once their capacity reaches >50% they lose significant performance. I've been monitoring my SSD (ATTO) and knock on wood with ~67% filled and TRIM is working with no performance loss. Therefore, research your SSD and also the firmware versions before installing your OS. I've been debating on RAID 0 or simply getting a larger SSD.

I'm current only running a 180GB SSD on my home PC with 2 games installed on the SSD, all other games are installed on the HDDs, plus some office type apps and over a 100GB is filled on the SSD, and my 1TB RAID 1 is 75% filled. Sooo I don't know what to tell you...

jaquith said:
BF3 is all about the GPU, and not the CPU so as long as you have a decent GPU and 8GB of RAM BF3 plays well. /edit - most other games however are not that way where the CPU plays an integral role in rendering (FPS) along with the GPU(s).

note: many SSD's, some OCZ's in particular, once their capacity reaches >50% they lose significant performance. I've been monitoring my SSD (ATTO) and knock on wood with ~67% filled and TRIM is working with no performance loss. Therefore, research your SSD and also the firmware versions before installing your OS. I've been debating on RAID 0 or simply getting a larger SSD.

I'm current only running a 180GB SSD on my home PC with 2 games installed on the SSD, all other games are installed on the HDDs, plus some office type apps and over a 100GB is filled on the SSD, and my 1TB RAID 1 is 75% filled. Sooo I don't know what to tell you...

did you notice the latest Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart i think there is a wrong sorting 6570ddr3,5570ddr3,6670ddr3 is placed below 4670 is 4670 powerful than the three?
Memory Master

Lately, I tend not look at TH GPU reviews and chart especially their 'Hierarchy Charts'.

Also, it's all in the settings and resolutions. Example higher MSAA 4x and higher tend to favor AMD and FXAA nVidia. Personally, I prefer 2xMSAA and High FXAA mixture.

Example with FXAA vs MSAA on AMD:

video rendering FXAA vs MSAA comparison; makes it clear to use FXAA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3O9oAPsG0

jaquith said:
Lately, I tend not look at TH GPU reviews and chart especially their 'Hierarchy Charts'.

Also, it's all in the settings and resolutions. Example higher MSAA 4x and higher tend to favor AMD and FXAA nVidia. Personally, I prefer 2xMSAA and High FXAA mixture.

Example with FXAA vs MSAA on AMD:
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/8xMSAA-FXAA-High.jpg
video rendering FXAA vs MSAA comparison; makes it clear to use FXAA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3O9oAPsG0

so what card will you recommend me at this low mid range
Memory Master

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For a GPU, depending upon the games, either the HD 7850 or HD 7870. I like and use nVidia, but right now the prices on AMD GPU's are kind of hard to ignore.

Depends on what you mean by mid-range, by most it's $200~$300.

jaquith said:
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For a GPU, depending upon the games, either the HD 7850 or HD 7870. I like and use nVidia, but right now the prices on AMD GPU's are kind of hard to ignore.

Depends on what you mean by mid-range, by most it's $200~$300.

i'm saying low midrange like 70$

jaquith said:
Don't know. Maybe either a HD 7770 or GTX 650 on sale/rebates or special shopping days in India. Pricing outside the USA & Canada is impossible for 'me' to know.

thank you man for answering me even selecting the best answer ..
Memory Master

Keep in mind there are 'cheaper' GPUs, but there's a line where the performance is so bad that for modern games they make no sense to purchase. I looked benchmarks before I posted HD 7770 or GTX 650 GPUs.

In the USA Money-to-Performance the HD 7850 or HD 7870 offer the best values.
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