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August 9, 2011 3:01:39 AM

Hello,My son got Fallout New Vegas for his pc but it won't work. Says T&L not compatible with adapter. I was told he needed a new graphics card, but am afraid his pc doesn't have the right slot. He has 3 PCI slots and a AGP slot
a c 355 U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 3:31:16 AM

PCI-e is not the same as the old PCI slot from the late 1980's / early 1990's. PCI-e was developed around 2004 to replace the AGP port.

Currently the best AGP card that can be bought new is the Radeon HD 4670. It's rather weak compared to current generation video cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It sounds like the PC is over 8 years old so don't expect good performance in Fallout New Vegas.
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 3:38:10 AM

No, it's not the same, and they are not compatable or anything like that. You can get an AGP HD 4650 for 60 or 70 bucks that will play that game decently.
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August 9, 2011 6:47:30 PM

jaguarskx said:
PCI-e is not the same as the old PCI slot from the late 1980's / early 1990's. PCI-e was developed around 2004 to replace the AGP port.

Currently the best AGP card that can be bought new is the Radeon HD 4670. It's rather weak compared to current generation video cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It sounds like the PC is over 8 years old so don't expect good performance in Fallout New Vegas.



I decided to let him borrow my pc, it says i have several PCI express slots, but still says not compatible with adapter. Is there an upgrade i can dowmload offline to fix this?
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 6:58:58 PM

vlearms said:
I decided to let him borrow my pc, it says i have several PCI express slots, but still says not compatible with adapter. Is there an upgrade i can dowmload offline to fix this?


An upgrade to what?

You may have pci-e slots available, but do you have any pci-e video cards in the slots?? Your not going to be able to run a new game on some crappy integrated gpu.

Please clarify your question.
August 9, 2011 7:10:51 PM

geekapproved said:
An upgrade to what?

You may have pci-e slots available, but do you have any pci-e video cards in the slots?? Your not going to be able to run a new game on some crappy integrated gpu.

Please clarify your question.


I have 2 perfect world games on my pc that i play currently and the graphics are fine..as for , are there any cards in the slots? I have no idea. I don't open them up,I just want to find a solution to this without pawning my cats lol. Here are my specs, maybe you can tell from this?

Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM PCE Express Root Port-2660
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM PCE Express Root Port-2662
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM PCE Express Root Port-2664
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM PCE Express Root Port-2666
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 7:19:48 PM

From your post I can tell your not very computer literate.

You could play Perfect World with a 10yr old pc. You cannot play Fallout Vegas with something that weak.

You'll need a computer with a MINIMUM DX9 capable video card.

Here are the minimum and recommended system requirements:
http://gamesystemrequirements.com/games.php?id=1143

August 9, 2011 7:22:21 PM

ok, can you give me an idea of what i need then? I am on disability and funds are limited.
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 7:26:12 PM

Without knowing what you or your son have now, it's nearly impossible to tell you what you need other than the minimum and recommended system requirements I linked above.

It seems to me your kid should be telling you what you need, call me crazy but kids usually know a lot more about computers than their parents.

Even the recommended hardware is obsolete stuff, to play it nicely at a good resolution your going to need something even better than what they recommend. If your kids computer has a AGP slot, it's ancient and not going to play it very well.

Get your kid a Playstation 3. He'll be able to play any games and you can use it as a blue ray player. It'll be cheaper in the long run.
August 9, 2011 8:01:40 PM

He has a play station 3, and a xbox 360..and No he doesn't know that much about computers, sorry. I am the one that hooked him up with the games. I guess maybe this site isn't for me, I don't need the sarcasm. I am simply trying to help him the best I can. As I said,I am giving him my pc, it is newer. But thank you for your time, I am truly sorry I wasted your time tho.
a c 355 U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 9:19:05 PM

I hate to say it, but the PS3 and Xbox 360 seems more powerful than your son's PC.

As for your PC, download the following program which will provide you with information about your PC:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Take screen shots of the CPU, Mainboard and Graphics tabs, then post those shots to a free image hosting site like:

http://imageshack.us/

Post links to those screen shots.
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 10:16:40 PM

Yeah the problem is you say you gave your son your computer and it's newer...well newer does not tell us anything. Anything between 1yr and 10yrs old could be what your referring to as newer, and without a good video card, your not going to be able to play that game.

We need to know what cpu, power supply, memory, etc it has to be able to suggest anything to you.

The PS3 was not sarcasm, it was a real suggestion. If he already has a PS3 and a Xbox, why on Earth would he want to play it on a older pc??? Makes no sense to me, take the game back and get the PS3 version.
August 9, 2011 10:26:26 PM

geekapproved said:
Yeah the problem is you say you gave your son your computer and it's newer...well newer does not tell us anything. Anything between 1yr and 10yrs old could be what your referring to as newer, and without a good video card, your not going to be able to play that game.

We need to know what cpu, power supply, memory, etc it has to be able to suggest anything to you.

The PS3 was not sarcasm, it was a real suggestion. If he already has a PS3 and a Xbox, why on Earth would he want to play it on a older pc??? Makes no sense to me, take the game back and get the PS3 version.



He has the other version, but tells me he has more options and can do more on the one on the pc.
August 9, 2011 10:33:35 PM

Something to do with Mods he can get on pc version
August 9, 2011 10:54:01 PM

The kid is right, consoles suck big time however the responders are right also. The computers you have aren't going to run current games well. I've checked the requirements for your game of interest and the minimum video card required should not cost over $100. Check www.newegg.com. Are you sure your CPU is powerful enough?
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 11:06:46 PM

vlearms said:
I guess maybe this site isn't for me, I don't need the sarcasm.

This site is for EVERYONE, even people that barely speak english get help here There are some threads pinned to the top of the forum page titled "Read First" and "How to ask for advise about choosing a new GPU" that might prevent you from getting your feelings hurt by impatient people in the future.
August 9, 2011 11:11:52 PM

ram1009 said:
The kid is right, consoles suck big time however the responders are right also. The computers you have aren't going to run current games well. I've checked the requirements for your game of interest and the minimum video card required should not cost over $100. Check www.newegg.com. Are you sure your CPU is powerful enough?

it says 1.353 volts is that what you mean?
August 9, 2011 11:15:22 PM

And thank you for checking this for me, can you tell me which one i need to get?
August 9, 2011 11:32:19 PM

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a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 11:43:38 PM

Ok, you have a single core prescott Pentium 4 at 3.0 ghz which does not meet the minimum system requirements for the game regardless of what your video card is, you need a dual core pentium e5200 at the very least.

It would be possible to upgrade since you have a 775 socket, but probably not worth it, you are better of buying or building a new machine.
a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 11:44:45 PM

vlearms said:
He has the other version, but tells me he has more options and can do more on the one on the pc.


Your link doesn't work. So we still have no idea what either of them are. Tell him the PS3 is what he gets, it cost's too much to upgrade the computer so you can play in low-med quality when you can play in high quality on the PS3.
August 10, 2011 2:27:04 AM

Well, Thank you everyone for your replies and your info. It is much appreciated.
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