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October 10, 2011 2:48:38 AM

Hey guys,

I'm building a desktop PC in a couple of weeks primarily for Battlefield 3, but also for programs like Photoshop, 3d programs such as 3dsmax and other rendering programs.

Approximate Purchase Date: 2 weeks

Budget Range: AU$2,500 for PC. ..... up to AU$1000 for peripherals such as monitor, keyboard, headset, mouse.

System Usage: Gaming, Movies, Web, Rendering, Design.

Preferred Website for Parts: Going to use Mwave.com.au (an Aussie site)

Country of Origin: Australia

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: After a few months I may save up and buy another graphics card.


Ok so after researching as much as I can, this is the build I'm looking at. I would like a balanced PC so advice and suggestions as to the parts I have selected would be greatly appreciated.

Case: Antec dark fleet DF-85 Gaming case
CPU: Intel core i7 2600 3.4GHz
Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68, 1155 Socket)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance triple channel 12Gb
GFX Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1.5Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB, 7200 rpm
SDD: Not sure yet ???
Disk Drive: LG Blu-ray combo drive
Sound Card: Creative soundblaster X-Fi titanium fatal1ty pro
PSU: Antec truePower 750w ATX


Additional Notes: As for a screen I'm looking at the new Samsung S27A950D (3D, 120Hz, 1920x1080p)
Keyboard/Mouse probably one of the Logitech or Razer Gaming ones.
Headset: Logitech G930.

I really appreciate the help, thanks!


October 10, 2011 2:56:01 AM

Hey fuze, welcome to the world of PC gaming.

Alright! you've got a nice outline, but a few things can be improved.
-get the 2600k! It provides a ton more value, since you can easily overclock it to very high levels, while keeping the temps quite low.
-Get a cheaper mobo! The Maximus IV is way to expensive. You don't need it, lol.
-you might check out a pair of 6950's. They perform much better than the 580 for the same price.
-I wouldn't get the barracuda XT. A pair of Samsung Spinpoint F3's would be faster and cheaper.

For an SSD, you can't go wrong with a Crucial M4 128GB. High performance/stability, good price.
-ditch the sound card, you don't need it. Onboard audio is very good these days. unless you got a $200 pair of cans, you won't hear a difference most likely.
-Get 8GB of ram. 12GB will run in single channel, which isn't the optimal speed.
-Don't forget a CPU cooler!

That's all I got for now! Great first draft.
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October 10, 2011 2:59:02 AM

I would probably pay less for a motherboard . A top end model wont magically perform better ie any board with a Z68 chipset will perform similarly so dont pay for features unless you plan on using .

Also consider that AMD are probably going to release their new 8 core bulldozer processors on wednesday [US time] . You choices are good , but AMD may be better and cheaper very soon
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October 10, 2011 3:15:55 AM

Thank you for your replies.

Good suggestions, I think I will get the 2600k as it isn't much more in price anyway.

I chose an expensive motherboard, as it is the one thing that I thought would be hard annoying to upgrade in the future, and I want to be able to upgrade for the next ten years, so I thought maybe a more expensive motherboard would allow me to upgrade for longer? perhaps I should look at some of the Gigabyte boards.

I have always preferred Nvidia over AMD and that is why I chose both the Intel processor and the GTX 580. Although if AMD release new processors I'll definitely have a look at them.

And for storage. Yep pair of Samsung spinpoint f3's sound good.

Also I forgot to mention I do a bit of music production and may start to do more of it, although if you say the onboard audio is good then it would take a hundred or so dollars off the price which would be good.

Ok I figured the more RAM the better, but I'll just get 8GB.

CPU Cooler? is that like a fan?
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October 10, 2011 3:26:22 AM

Fuze91 said:
I chose an expensive motherboard, as it is the one thing that I thought would be hard annoying to upgrade in the future, and I want to be able to upgrade for the next ten years, so I thought maybe a more expensive motherboard would allow me to upgrade for longer? perhaps I should look at some of the Gigabyte boards.
Getting a better mobo doesn't mean it will stay relevant longer. When the chipset gets outdated, it's outdated. Unless you plan on using some of those features offered, don't buy it. 'Tis a money drain.

I have always preferred Nvidia over AMD and that is why I chose both the Intel processor and the GTX 580. Although if AMD release new processors I'll definitely have a look at them.
That's cool! Check out getting a pair of GTX 560 Ti's and overclocking them. Great bang for buck.

Also I forgot to mention I do a bit of music production and may start to do more of it, although if you say the onboard audio is good then it would take a hundred or so dollars off the price which would be good.
Your call. Onboard 7.1 is good for the normal folks, but you might notice it if you're an audiophiliac. Just do some research I guess. It's all what you think it a good buy.

CPU Cooler? is that like a fan?
Yup, it's a fin array and fan that sits on top of the CPU to keep things chilly. the Hyper 212+ is an excellent, cheap cooler. Definitely need an aftermarket cooler if you want to overclock.

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October 10, 2011 4:11:50 AM

Mate your a legend! I'll get back and do a bit more research and probably purchase in a week or so. Thanks again ;) 
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October 10, 2011 5:11:00 AM

Case / PSU - Putting the TruePower 750 in there would be a crime :)  That case is specifically build for CPX Form factor PSU's. You want a CP-850 ... and its $15 cheaper than the 750 !

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-34040425-Antec_850W_ATX_Pow...

Ignore the note saying 1200, P183, P193....the DF-85 uses the 1200 chassis.

RAM - Don't wanna use triple channel in a double channel board.

Two sets of these CAS 7's will work nicely for your rendering and design work. Maybe just start w/ one set and see how it goes.

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-37140874-Mushkin_Redline_Du...(2x_4GB)_Memory_Kit_DDR3_1600_PC3_12800_CL7_(996

MoBo / CPU - 2600k is right choice for you design / rendering apps. Don't know that you'll benefit from Z68, read this to decide

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/difference-between-h...

MoBo has the Nvidia nF200 chip so it can do SLI at x16 x16 x8. Given the performance review here, I'd have no hesitation springing for this board.....then again the WS Revolution (P67) would suit me just fine for $100 less.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-maximus-iv-extreme-z...

HD - Again, fine choice, I use them in my engineering office for CAD.... your rendering / design will benefit big time. Only thing faster than the Barracuda's is the Constellation. They a whole different class then the Seagate 7200.12, Spinpoint F3 and WD Black. The 3Tb is faster than the 2TB tho if ya can afford the few extra bucks....and 5 year warranty.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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For a hard drive, the Barracuda XT series offers the best performance available from a 7200 RPM mechanical storage device. It's not quite as fast as the Seagate Momentus-XT Solid State Hybrid Drive, but then again that product series doesn't offer storage capacities beyond 500GB.


SSD- Crucial M4, Corsair Performance 3, OCZ Vertex 3

Sound - Stick w/ on board sound.

Monitor 27" is too big for 1920 x 1080 ... will look "grainy" when sitting at normal viewing distances. The human eye starts to notice individual pixels at < about 96 ppi (pixels per inch). That Samsung is at 81.6 I'd suggest a 23" or 23.6" size.

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-27021448-ASUS_VG236HE_23_qu...

Keyboard - Logitech G110 - http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-24020354-Logitech_G110_Blac...

Mouse - Logitech G500 - http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-24030732-Logitech_Gaming_Mo...(910-001270)

Cooler - If ya wanna overclock ya CPU, a 3rd party cooler is a necessity. Given what you have invested, if ya want to hit that 5.0 Ghz OC that Guru3D bragged about in the MoBo review for the Asus Maximums Extreme, you'll want a good cooler.

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-18020602-Prolimatech_Genesi...

GFX - That GTX 580 is costing ya $835.70 on mwave and it will get ya 616 fps in Guru3D's game test suite. At $245 each, two of these will costs ya half as much at $490 and eat it for lunch with 862 fps (that's at 900Mhz) .... mwave's product is 925, so will be even faster.

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-42051061-ASUS_GeForce_GTX_5...
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October 11, 2011 7:41:39 AM

Thanks for the reply jack, very well written response!

I have taken your advice, although I've also decided to downgrade to the asus maximus Gene-z Z68 motherboard. Still a double channel board, so I will go with the mushkin 8gb RAM.

I understand your point about the screen being grainy...I wanted the screen solely for the 120Hz/3D and there aren't any others out. So the next question is, should I stick to the Samsung 3D and downsize to a 23". OR go with one of the Nvidia 3D compatible Acers? OR get a 30" 2560x1600 res screeen???

too many options!
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October 21, 2011 12:09:04 AM

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