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GTX 580 vs 460 and 680 next year

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August 9, 2011 10:14:18 PM

Trying to decide between getting a GTX 580 now and not upgrading for a long time (2-3 years), getting a gtx 460 as a placeholder until the new Kepler GPUs come out and get a 670 or 680 at that point or not building my system until the new gpus are released. I game at 1080p. Any input?

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a b U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 10:20:23 PM

I think the GTX580 now is the best option....; odds are the GTX '670' will only match the 580's performnce anyway, and likely will not be out before Feb of next year....
August 9, 2011 10:21:55 PM

mdd1963 said:
I think the GTX580 now is the best option....; odds are the GTX '670' will only match the 580's performnce anyway, and likely will not be out before Feb of next year....


Wow that's a long time. Is a 580 a bit overkill for 1080p?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
August 9, 2011 10:43:11 PM

The GTX 580 is a terrible value for the money.
August 9, 2011 10:47:36 PM

jyjjy said:
The GTX 580 is a terrible value for the money.


So, GTX 570?
a c 236 U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 12:07:03 AM

Matt34533 said:
Trying to decide between getting a GTX 580 now and not upgrading for a long time (2-3 years), getting a gtx 460 as a placeholder until the new Kepler GPUs come out and get a 670 or 680 at that point or not building my system until the new gpus are released. I game at 1080p. Any input?


Graphics cards are very competitive. You mostly get what you pay for. Gaming at 1080P, you will get diminishing returns for your $ as you step up from a GTX560ti to GTX570/GTX580/GTX590.

But, what you can buy, you can sell, so a graphics card upgrade is about the easiest thing you can do. If your psu is a quality 600w, you can run a GTX580.

I suggest you get the best card you feel comfortable paying for today. You can get a bit of upgrade insurance with an EVGA card because of their 90 day trade up program.

In 6 months, we will see the 28nm AMD and Nvidia cards, possibly sooner. They will run cooler, be more powerful, and will be cheaper to produce. But the selling price will be what the competitive market will bear.
At that time you will have the option to sell your current card and get a new generation card.
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 1:14:25 AM

Matt34533 said:
So, GTX 570?

Well the GTX 580 is about 15% faster than the GTX 570. Check out the price difference and see if you think it is worth it. Personally I don't.
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 1:38:54 AM

Matt34533 said:
Settled on the GTX 570 Palit Sonic that can overclock to almost 1ghz. For future SLI purposes, could I run overclocked 570's, a 2500k overclocked, 8gbs ram, hd and dvd drive and 6 case fans off of this power supply?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would stick with a better brand when choosing a PSU. This one only lists 750w on the +12v despite being an 850w unit. A good brand of that wattage will have almost all the power available on the +12v.
Looking at the current selection/prices on newegg this XFX unit is what I would recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's made by Seasonic and high quality with 840 watts on the +12v rail and I think it should cover what you are talking about.
Here is a review;
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
August 10, 2011 3:20:57 AM

jyjjy said:
I would stick with a better brand when choosing a PSU. This one only lists 750w on the +12v despite being an 850w unit. A good brand of that wattage will have almost all the power available on the +12v.
Looking at the current selection/prices on newegg this XFX unit is what I would recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's made by Seasonic and high quality with 840 watts on the +12v rail and I think it should cover what you are talking about.
Here is a review;
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...


How about the cooler master 1000w silent pro? Can you recommend a good modular supply that would be able to power what I was talking about for under ~100 after mail-in-rebate?
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 4:16:10 AM

Cooler Master in general is not a good brand but that one is made by FSP and should be alright though not particularly good. I don't see how it meets your under $100 after MIR requirement though and for the prices I'm seeing it at there are better choices.
To answer your other question, no. You either need to give up on modular or raise your budget(or go with a sketchy brand, which I don't recommend.)
August 10, 2011 4:31:57 AM

jyjjy said:
Cooler Master in general is not a good brand but that one is made by FSP and should be alright though not particularly good. I don't see how it meets your under $100 after MIR requirement though and for the prices I'm seeing it at there are better choices.
To answer your other question, no. You either need to give up on modular or raise your budget(or go with a sketchy brand, which I don't recommend.)


Well how about $130 after MIR? Any better quality modular units?

Thanks for the patience by the way :pt1cable: 
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 6:41:32 AM

Matt34533 said:
Well how about $130 after MIR? Any better quality modular units?

Thanks for the patience by the way :pt1cable: 

Had to look outside of newegg but here you go;
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...



jjb8675309 said:
for the OPS requirements of a quality psu ID recommend this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Toms used it in there 6970 crossfire/ 2600k build

The XFX unit I linked earlier is similar quality/wattage but has cheaper shipping and a $30 rebate.
August 10, 2011 7:33:32 AM

jyjjy said:
Had to look outside of newegg but here you go;
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...




The XFX unit I linked earlier is similar quality/wattage but has cheaper shipping and a $30 rebate.


So I found an evga b stock 580 for 370$. Think the xfx you suggested could run SLI 580s in the future with mild overclocks?
a b U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 2:01:40 PM

A good 850 could handle dual 580s.
August 10, 2011 5:27:19 PM

Could a PC P&C 950w Silencer MK II Power Dual 580's with mild overclocks, a 2500k overclocked, 6 case fans, a hard drive and dvd drive?
August 10, 2011 7:42:34 PM

jyjjy said:
Had to look outside of newegg but here you go;
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...




The XFX unit I linked earlier is similar quality/wattage but has cheaper shipping and a $30 rebate.


Could a PC P&C 950w Silencer MK II Power Dual 580's with mild overclocks, a 2500k overclocked, 6 case fans, a hard drive and dvd drive?
a b U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 8:10:55 PM

GTX580 for sub-$390??

Buy it....
a c 376 U Graphics card
August 10, 2011 8:36:16 PM

That's a good price for GTX 580s but... I dunno... spending over $700 on video cards with only a 90 day warranty sounds like a pretty big risk, especially on large, hot, power hungry cards like these. It's up to you but I dunno if I would risk that myself. The GTX 580 is only about 15% faster than the GTX 570 so I would just play it safe and save some money personally.
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