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Ok so here goes. About to set in stone this final build. I would like thoughts on Mobo / Ram / Cpu choices. Im going to really only be using this for gaming and possibly watching movies. I dont want to upgrade for a couple years. Are there any suggestions? Im about to pull the trigger on this setup and go from there. Any help will be awesome. Thanks in advance for reading!

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■Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129174
(Linked case is a newer version of the one I will be using -it should still work correct?)

■I have an old optical drive that I will use.

■I already have this PSU: Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W Continuous@40°C, 80Plus Bronze Certified,Modular Cable Design,ATX12V v2.3/ EPS12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188

■I live near a MicroCenter so Im planning on picking up a i7 2600k

■ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265
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■ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702
(I dont see much difference between the two besides the look. Right now Im leaning more towards the ASRock)

■EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590
(Im planning on GTX 580 then moving to SLI in the future. The articles Ive read say less micro studder and issues are associated with single 580, Im pretty sure this is the GPU I want)

■CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233198

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■CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145347
(Leaning more towards the second pair due to the low 1.5V clocking (Although it doesnt havea low profile - will that interfere with my CPU cooler?))

■COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

■Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 RPM (For the bulk of games)

■OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706
 
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Games are not multithreaded that much that they can take advantage of hyperthreading .
And when a cpu core is at near saturation by the thread its running then hyperthreading adds nothing because there is no unused processing resource available any way .
The bottom line is that the 2600k wont give you any advantage in games , and by the time it ever does there will be newer faster processors available .

Even today most people wont use more than 4 gig of RAM while gaming .
DX9 titles use exactly the same amount of RAM to run a game as there is on the graphics card . The same information has to be in both graphics RAM and system RAM at the same time . DX10 and 11 that has changed but it is still roughly similar amounts of RAM used by...

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for gaming use a 2500k
If I go with an i7 wont that help in the future not having to upgrade that aspect? IE: hyperthreading?

your RAM must be 1.5 volt or less.
8 gig is overkill
Noted on the 1.5v RAM. I was considering doing 16g due to the extra $50 is not a big deal to just have it. I might run fraps down the line. Would it help in that regard?
 
Games are not multithreaded that much that they can take advantage of hyperthreading .
And when a cpu core is at near saturation by the thread its running then hyperthreading adds nothing because there is no unused processing resource available any way .
The bottom line is that the 2600k wont give you any advantage in games , and by the time it ever does there will be newer faster processors available .

Even today most people wont use more than 4 gig of RAM while gaming .
DX9 titles use exactly the same amount of RAM to run a game as there is on the graphics card . The same information has to be in both graphics RAM and system RAM at the same time . DX10 and 11 that has changed but it is still roughly similar amounts of RAM used by the graphics and system .
Many people are getting 2 x4 gig because RAM is cheap but even that will leave nearly 6 gig unused by a game using your graphics card and running windows .
I havent ever built a computer using 16 gig of RAM , but I have seen benchmarks online that show they take a minor performance hit over a system using less
 
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Hmm ok that sounds good. I guess Ill drop the i7 for an i5 2500k and drop the ram to 8gig.

Do you know if there are issues with the Motherboard and the GPU combo?
 

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I guess thats why a lot of the reviews on Newegg have people complaining about the RAM only coming in as 1333MHz until they set it in BIOS? The i7 looks like its native 1333MHz as well.

Other than my CPU and abundance of RAM do you see any issues? Im not set in stone about the MB but I do believe both choices should work fine. (Ive seen that a lot of people like the ASRock MBs but havent used em before)