Do you want a Mac/OSX forum?

You will burn in hell for starting this topic, a bunch of rabid, inbred mac fanthings will come out of the woodwork.

*shakes fist*

That's the plan. When they show themselves, I'll put them all in a cage

But but, if you attract em with a Mac forum, next thing you know they'll be posting in the "other" forums and confusing us with weird questions and odd problems.

*golf clap*

I don't know how you can call mac 'fanthings' when your post is just dripping exaggeration, and bias.

I would like to see a mac forum as well. I run a MBP a long side my Homebuild PC. There's a lot of mac users who have incredible bias when it comes to their computer, but the same is also true for PC users, especially homebuilders. You don't need to generalize an entire population of users based off of you experience with individuals. If I did that I would assume every PC is like you. Burning with hate towards mac users, and totally ignorant of the fact that they can know anything about a computer

Diapers? Actually, I was selling PCs and Macs back in 1984.

And I'd say what's being discussed here is all in fun. Outside of touchy folks in the OC forum, most here are friendly and rarely sarcastic or demeaning.

The real issue is how much value can be given to Mac users with their hardware by the majority of folks here. And if Mac questions get mixed into the PC forums, that'll cause confusion. So all the "regular" forums will need to be re-titled to be "PC" forums among other things. And I look at this forum from strictly the hardware side - never even visited the OS or other forums.

The forum and the THG main site are, for all intents and purposes, separate entities, so credibility has nothing to do with it. The editors have zero control over what happens here.

Can not be unseen...

Huzza!
Well said. Why can't more people be understanding and open to new ideas? And incase people haven't noticed, while they may be the most outspoken, mac fanboys are a dying breed. With the advent of Intel Macs that run Windows the majority of Mac owner's own, and regularly use, PCs as well (whether it is Windows or Linux). At the very least people should give respect to Apple for the inroads the have made in the last few years.

@wildwell
I may not have been alive for the beginning of it all, that doesn't mean I haven't experienced it. Most of what I know about computer hardware was learned by building, you guessed it, Macs . Back in the good old days with the 840av and my personal favorite, the 9600. Even the Molar (AIO G3) was customizable.
When stuff is ten years old, it tends to be cheaper, so my dad made sure my brother and I always had something 'new' to play with, so yeah, I remember booting off of floppies.

Viva la IIGS!!!

You know, I am torn. On the one hand I think we should allow the mac fans a place where they can discuss their platform, even though I hate that company and the smugness of its fan base. On the other hand, it might actually attract more smug mac fans, which is exactly what I don't want.

I guess, ultimately I should promote a chance for free speech wherever I see one, so I will go ahead and toss in my vote for it too. Hopefully they will have something useful to contribute to the non-mac portions of this forum?

-Zorak

I'm pretty much a Mac hater, and I'll admit it for as long as I can give a logical argument against them. Which will probably always happen, given Apple's demeanor.

That being said, having a Mac forum would be the correct thing to do. The only real reason I don't want one is because, classically, Tom's is a pro-PC site. I don't know if making a Mac forum would be more helpful to those who posted or simply just create a forum of flaming war threads.

yeah Tom's does seem to have more Windowsists than Macists ... i guess most of the world is still that way when it comes to desktop PCs. fine by me.

although it isnt quite true, i think of Windows as DOS with whatever licensed interface Redmond wants to put over it this year. and i think of Mac as FreeBSD with Cupertino's licensed interface over the top of it. both have Intel Inside ... so to speak.

but people on both sides do seem to get a little too emotional about what amounts to their favorite window manager, if youre approaching it from a Linux standpoint (Mac4Lin anyone? Vixta anyone?).

in the spirit of fairness i'd agree and say, why not include a Mac forum if Tom's is going to include Windows? isnt that just ... an example of plain and simple fairness?

unless Toms wants to go back to being just a hardware site to ignore the loyalists on both sides.

but that would be about as tasty as a sandwich ... without anything in it.

cheers.

So, does Tom's Hardware review Mac-only items? If so, seems like the forum should have a Mac area. Just not on top of any of the PC stuff!

I use both Mac and PC's. I build my own gaming desktops and have an iMac for design and photo purposes. I would love to have a Mac forum on Tom's. I stop by this site daily. Although I am afraid it would just turn into a constant flame war. If you even hint at a pro-Mac stance in commenting on an article you instantly get -20 thumbs down. lol, Tom's readers seem to be PC fanboys to a "T"(at least the ones who comment on Apple related articles). Most of Tom's readers who use Mac's also use PC's or at least are very familiar with them and are usually the most fair when it comes to comparing the two platforms, at least that has been my experience when reading comments.

So a "yes" from me. Here's to hoping its a good forum and not full of flames.

Yeh, I use a Macbook for school work.

Always good to have rep and influence on Tom's.

Makes people think twice about flaming you.

Cult of Apples.

Head over to www.macrumors.com and ask there, people (tend) to be pretty helpful although they're obviously Mac biased. They don't tend to crucify you for liking Windows or owning PCs though.

Thanks, shall do!

You're an old man, your views don't count.

Get back in you cage.

Wow, 23 votes overnight! I thought this poll was going to crawl along and grind to a halt.

No, because if I quote a magic number I am sure someone will register multiple accounts through a proxy and skew the poll. For all I know that may have happened already, because that's a hell of alot of votes in a short period. The only other explanation is that this thread made the home page "hot topics" section for a period and got more views. I didn't check how many views there were yesterday, but there are over 700 now.

Unfortunately there is no such feature, at least not that I'm aware of. Since I'm not a moderator of this section I wouldn't see it anyway.

I do as well. Historically our family has used Mac more, so we have more software for it and such, so we stick with them for everyday use. I however, recently caught the "builder's bug" and put together a gaming PC. Both Macs and PCs get the job done, period, and that is all that matters.

I feel for David54. I recently ran across forum posts about the DFI Lan-party boards and the forum devoted to them. I had no previous knowledge of the subject. Short version seems to be that the forum was 'sponsored' by DFI and run under a contract by a somewhat irritable person who ran afoul of the party line. So the forum got shut down because they couldn't censor it and the new one is fully controlled by the company.

I don't expect forums of any kind to be un-censored - nor would I participate in one that wasn't. I judge the quality of a forum by the mods ability and willingness to clean up problems and edit/remove as needed. And there's no such thing as "the people's right" to say anything they want on someone else's forum. However, I think that the value of a forum like this one includes the ability to express your negative opinions.

From what folks are saying about the "Apple" forums, I think this forum would be doing a good thing to start a Mac OS/Hardware forum.

ouch, but I don't wanna go on the B Ark