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January 10, 2012 5:06:49 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGrPyMKA_k&feature=pla...

cause they fake it and say there the best , and all the news outlet are bought by them

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January 10, 2012 5:58:44 PM
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What a surprise, Anandtech rushes in to defend Intel. Regardless of whether the chip runs the game or not, what they did was "not cool". Hopefully they will hold a second demo where they apologize for trying to fool people, and actually show a real time demo.
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January 10, 2012 6:26:19 PM

FinneousPJ said:
What a surprise, Anandtech rushes in to defend Intel. Regardless of whether the chip runs the game or not, what they did was "not cool". Hopefully they will hold a second demo where they apologize for trying to fool people, and actually show a real time demo.


My God, what could Anandtech be thinking in believing people would want to know whether IB runs the DX11 games or not?


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January 10, 2012 6:30:55 PM

Chad Boga said:
My God, what could Anandtech be thinking in believing people would want to know whether IB runs the DX11 games or not?

As I said, this is not about whether the chip runs the game or not.
January 10, 2012 6:47:30 PM

FinneousPJ said:
As I said, this is not about whether the chip runs the game or not.

Whether the chip runs the game or not is the important thing.

You want to focus on trivialities, because that is what you are about.
January 10, 2012 6:56:12 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
The problem with the demo was that they werent clear at the beginning that they were streaming it but the product is real and does just what the clip showed. http://www.anandtech.com/show/5359/intel-confirms-worki...

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team


if it was a late addition to the demo and they streamed it instead of doing it live, then why not just come forward and say it's a streamed video instead of faking it? nothing to be embarassed of, it happens a lot and most people don't have an issue with it.

play a streaming video, tell me that's what it is, and i'll likely believe your claims. but try to pawn off a streaming video as being live, take me for a fool, and i will question your claims!
January 10, 2012 7:01:16 PM

So. What are the proper consequences of Intels actions? I thought most show demos are spoofed in some way or another. This one being pretty egregious.

edit: +1 branden
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January 10, 2012 7:05:43 PM

Does anybody notice that Mooly Eden states somebody is driving it backstage? Doesn't that sort of tell everyone that it isn't running off of that ultrabook? :pfff: 

Edit: As long as the chip runs it, and they aren't blatantly lying, I don't really care. Lying happens all the time in business to keep the stock prices up. If they tried to pawn off bad drivers with this stunt, then I would be more critical of them.
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January 10, 2012 7:06:25 PM

emad_ramlawi said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGrPyMKA_k&feature=pla...

cause they fake it and say there the best , and all the news outlet are bought by them


It seems more of an attempt to make a joke than anything else. It wasn't as if they were trying to hide the fact that it was actual game play. The problem with making jokes it that some people get offended. Sometimes what's funny about a joke is not the fact that the joke itself was funny, but the fact that some people are offended.

Yeah, yeah, Intel pays everyone to say their products are great and the best thing since sliced bread. But you know what? The best thing about conspiracy theories is that you do not have to give any proof. All you need to do is claim there is some type of conspiracy going on in the world (whether true or not) and people will flock to those conspiracy theories.
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January 10, 2012 7:07:23 PM

anandtech is messed up. they are so fast to defend intel its not even funny.

They show a demo on undisclosed hardware and claim it to be good to go. No info on the GPU clock or the shaders and also no info on why they can't get it to work on the original computer.

the "case closed" at the end just signified a publication with a biased agenda. I don't know how these people can call themselves journalists.

January 10, 2012 7:07:35 PM

emad_ramlawi said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGrPyMKA_k&feature=pla...

cause they fake it and say there the best , and all the news outlet are bought by them


so youre sayin this according to this one particular video lol what are u even doin here man lol intel is waybetter and faster than intel it can be proven scientifically and numerically im guessing ur a amd fan boy but truth hurts u know intel has the best architecture and speed when it comes to cpu thats why they are more expensive and better, they use smarter guys to build their stuff. AMDs flagship cpu is an equivalent of 2500k lol really after all those years of research and work thats what they came up with ? u just need to overclock i5 750 up to 4.0ghz and u beat their best cpu right now lol
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January 10, 2012 7:14:23 PM

Branden said:
if it was a late addition to the demo and they streamed it instead of doing it live, then why not just come forward and say it's a streamed video instead of faking it? nothing to be embarassed of, it happens a lot and most people don't have an issue with it.

play a streaming video, tell me that's what it is, and i'll likely believe your claims. but try to pawn off a streaming video as being live, take me for a fool, and i will question your claims!


Apparently you didn't watch the entire video or you only choose to hear certain words from that video. At about 31 seconds into the video you can clearly hear the person stating that the game was running from backstage.
January 10, 2012 7:17:51 PM

I have to admit I missed that (at 31 sec)
January 10, 2012 7:18:37 PM

jaguarskx said:
Apparently you didn't watch the entire video or you only choose to hear certain words from that video. At about 31 seconds into the video you can clearly hear the person stating that the game was running from backstage.


u know as soon as i stated watchin the video i knew that wasnt running the game cuz we all know that intel cpu cant run that game alone so obviously he said it too that they were started the game in the back hes not doing it so whats ur point here? wel all know cpus cant run dx11 games without a graphics card
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January 10, 2012 7:24:05 PM

thegameon said:
u know as soon as i stated watchin the video i knew that wasnt running the game cuz we all know that intel cpu cant run that game alone so obviously he said it too that they were started the game in the back hes not doing it so whats ur point here? wel all know cpus cant run dx11 games without a graphics card

The GPU in Ivy Bridge(HD 4000) is integrated onto the same chip as the CPU.
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January 10, 2012 7:34:48 PM

thegameon said:
u know as soon as i stated watchin the video i knew that wasnt running the game cuz we all know that intel cpu cant run that game alone so obviously he said it too that they were started the game in the back hes not doing it so whats ur point here? wel all know cpus cant run dx11 games without a graphics card



You do realize that Ivy Bridge does have an integrated graphics core, right? It is called the Intel HD 2500 (on lower end models) and the Intel HD 4000 (higher end models). Intel current Sandy Bridge CPUs have either the Intel HD 2000 or Intel HD 3000 core. Sandy Bridge-E CPUs do not have integrated graphics cores.

AMD's Llano chips can run DX11 games because they have DX11 features built-in. Do they run them well? That a different question since mobile graphic cores have always been less powerful than their desktop counterparts.

Perhaps you are confused by the fact that AMD calls their CPUs + integrated graphic core as "APUs" while Intel simply refers to their CPUs + integrated graphic core as "CPUs". The "APU" terminology is something that AMD came up with to differentiate their products. As for Intel, apparently they decided to stick with the term "CPU".
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January 10, 2012 7:36:40 PM

You AMD fanboys are such a joke.
January 10, 2012 7:38:36 PM

jaguarskx said:
Apparently you didn't watch the entire video or you only choose to hear certain words from that video. At about 31 seconds into the video you can clearly hear the person stating that the game was running from backstage.


ah, i see. i don't have sound on my PC at work, i can only go by what i see. and what i saw was some guy obviously not playing the game he was pretending to.

but now that you mention it i will point out that he didn't admit it was faked until 31 seconds later when fakery was already obvious to the audience, not beforehand. which leads me to believe they intended to play everyone for fools, and when that apparently wasn't going to work it was time to go into "save face" mode.
January 10, 2012 7:41:15 PM

jaguarskx said:
You do realize that Ivy Bridge does have an integrated graphics core, right? It is called the Intel HD 2500 (on lower end models) and the Intel HD 4000 (higher end models). Intel current Sandy Bridge CPUs have either the Intel HD 2000 or Intel HD 3000 core. Sandy Bridge-E CPUs do not have integrated graphics cores.

AMD's Llano chips can run DX11 games because they have DX11 features built-in. Do they run them well? That a different question since mobile graphic cores have always been less powerful than their desktop counterparts.

Perhaps you are confused by the fact that AMD calls their CPUs + integrated graphic core as "APUs" while Intel simply refers to their CPUs + integrated graphic core as "CPUs". The "APU" terminology is something that AMD came up with to differentiate their products. As for Intel, apparently they decided to stick with the term "CPU".


i was originally talkin to this guy (emad_Ramlawi ) why u takin it so personal lol
if ur dumb enough to see and believe this video that cpu with int. gpu or apu can run games like this then no point of buying gtx 580s or hd 6900 people can just go buy these stupid laptops or ultrabooks its ok to waster ur money then u know
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January 10, 2012 7:43:08 PM

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so u think that integrated gpu can run the fuckin f1 2011 dx11 so smooth like how it is in the video ? then u r stupid im sorry
are you slow or something? because the whole point of the demo was to show off dx11 on intel's integrated gpu and to promote it.
January 10, 2012 7:43:32 PM

rds1220 said:
You AMD fanboys are such a joke.


i know right they are just tryin to make up stuff from this video, i donno what they were tryiin to do here actually make u believe or not but intel will destroy amd anyday for breakfast its even funny to bring it up lol
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January 10, 2012 7:43:56 PM

thegameon said:
i was originally talkin to this guy (emad_Ramlawi ) why u takin it so personal lol
if ur dumb enough to see and believe this video that cpu with int. gpu or apu can run games like this then no point of buying gtx 580s or hd 6900 people can just go buy these stupid laptops or ultrabooks its ok to waster ur money then u know
an apu can run those games like that no problem.
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January 10, 2012 7:45:53 PM

Branden said:


but now that you mention it i will point out that he didn't admit it was faked until 31 seconds later when fakery was already obvious to the audience, not beforehand. which leads me to believe they intended to play everyone for fools, and when that apparently wasn't going to work it was time to go into "save face" mode.


Apparently, you do not know what a joke is or you do not appreciate jokes.

Generally speaking, in a joke there is a setup, and then a punchline. The setup helps make the punchline funny. In the video, the setup was the person playing F1, the punchline was when he was still playing F1 with both hands off the steering wheel.
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January 10, 2012 8:02:06 PM

thegameon said:
i was originally talkin to this guy (emad_Ramlawi ) why u takin it so personal lol
if ur dumb enough to see and believe this video that cpu with int. gpu or apu can run games like this then no point of buying gtx 580s or hd 6900 people can just go buy these stupid laptops or ultrabooks its ok to waster ur money then u know


I am not taking it personally.

I am providing you with information that you seem to lack based on your posts. You aren't the first "Youngster" ranked individual; nor will you be the last; that does not seem to know some basic facts. I don't play F1 so I don't know what graphic settings are during the demo since they were not spoken of or shown in the setup screen.

Be advised:

Calling someone "dumb" or "stupid" is construed as an insult and insulting members of this forum is not condoned. Such behavior can result in censorship up to and including being banned as member of this forum.
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January 10, 2012 8:15:35 PM

thegameon said:
i know right they are just tryin to make up stuff from this video, i donno what they were tryiin to do here actually make u believe or not but intel will destroy amd anyday for breakfast its even funny to bring it up lol


The fact is that they have been desperate to trash Intel since AMD's own stupidity with the Bulldozer. They think that this gives them a reason to trash Intel but really it doesn't. The whole thing was to prove that it would run the DX11. Sorry AMD fanboys but you fail again (just like AMD) try again next time.
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January 10, 2012 8:16:32 PM

What somebody doesn't appear to realize is F1 is in the bottom bin in graphics.

A 6870 plays the game at 1080p Ultra preset 8xMSAA@ 60fps and is still bottlenecked by the cpu.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-fx-6100-ove...

I can believe even a crappy integrated chip can run this game at low res and low graphics settings and perhaps even higher than minimal...
January 10, 2012 8:19:10 PM

Haserath said:
What somebody doesn't appear to realize is F1 is in the bottom bin in graphics.

A 6870 plays the game at 1080p Ultra preset 8xMSAA@ 60fps and is still bottlenecked by the cpu.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-fx-6100-ove...

I can believe even a crappy integrated chip can run this game at low res and low graphics settings and perhaps even higher than minimal...


i dont exactly agree with u on that f1 2011 is a good game when it comes to graphics i mean it doesn tlook fantastic but it squezes the juice outta graphics card its because maybe the bad coding on the game but still its not really that bad
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January 10, 2012 9:05:31 PM

Someone needs a "glass-ectomy" if They think that Intel controls media and anandtech. Right now Intel is favored, YES - But there is a reason, maybe they have a better product, and better support for their chipsets.

NO, did not make up "glass-ectomy", a lowly coach was placed on administrative leave for stating that a person (not to be a name dropper) in the oval office needed one.

def: An operation to replace the belly button with a piece of glass, So The poor sole could see where they were going when they had ther head up their A**
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January 10, 2012 9:27:15 PM

I have F1 2010 and it is not at all a GPU hog even cranked to the max.

Laptops and such run at pretty low resolution like 1366x768. I'm sure an HD4000 can run the game at lowered settings. We already know an HD3000 is around the GPU power of an AMD Radeon 5550. If the HD4000 is in the 5650 range, then yeah, it can game.
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January 10, 2012 10:04:27 PM

Don't start a flame war here. Support your claim with benchmark result or game play experience.
January 10, 2012 10:50:53 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
The problem with the demo was that they werent clear at the beginning that they were streaming it but the product is real and does just what the clip showed. http://www.anandtech.com/show/5359/intel-confirms-worki...

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

Still in the real world AMD is plenty of performance for most as in well over half of the population that use or need a PC so both AMD or Intel is just fine for most people and most people would never notice the difference anyway. However if you are Disney Pixar then you will most likely be running a $1000+ Intel CPU just cause you can and it is more suited and useable to Professionals needs.
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January 13, 2012 7:48:03 AM

ITS OBVIOUS THAT THE VLC SHOWING UP WAS ******* MISTAKE AND PEOPLE THAT WORSHIP INTEL AND GETS PAYCHECK BY THEM ARE SAYING : "OH NOO THIS WAS FUNNY THING DONT BY INTEL PPL , NOPE THIS WASNT A MISTAKE",

IF AMD DID THIS , WE`D CALL IT AMD FAILDOZER MARKETING X2

BUT WHEN PRECIOUS INTEL DOES ALL WILL BE FORGIVEN , ALL HAIL TO INTEL .........
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January 13, 2012 7:50:15 AM

Check your facts gameon....
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January 13, 2012 8:18:54 AM

emad_ramlawi said:
ITS OBVIOUS THAT THE VLC SHOWING UP WAS ******* MISTAKE AND PEOPLE THAT WORSHIP INTEL AND GETS PAYCHECK BY THEM ARE SAYING : "OH NOO THIS WAS FUNNY THING DONT BY INTEL PPL , NOPE THIS WASNT A MISTAKE",

IF AMD DID THIS , WE`D CALL IT AMD FAILDOZER MARKETING X2

BUT WHEN PRECIOUS INTEL DOES ALL WILL BE FORGIVEN , ALL HAIL TO INTEL .........

Don't...

Post in ALL CAPS or use excessive punctuation!!!


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283384-33-read-first
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January 13, 2012 8:20:09 AM

And watch your language.
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January 13, 2012 8:43:21 AM

@OP: intel has a lot of money, certainly not enough to pay off every media outlet in the world.
vendors running video demos instead of actual demonstration doesn't seem very new or earthshattering. time constraint is an issue at expos like these.
seems like most of the freak out being caused from that video link is from fanboy-rage. most people had a laugh and moved on.
when ivy bridge does come out and turns out to be capable of playing that game, all this fanboy-rage would be more funny than the video (it's already meaningless, even now).
i'll end my post with something a very wise person told me:
d.n.f.t.t.
January 13, 2012 8:52:16 AM

emad_ramlawi said:
ITS OBVIOUS THAT THE VLC SHOWING UP WAS ******* MISTAKE AND PEOPLE THAT WORSHIP INTEL AND GETS PAYCHECK BY THEM ARE SAYING : "OH NOO THIS WAS FUNNY THING DONT BY INTEL PPL , NOPE THIS WASNT A MISTAKE",


Who are these people getting paid by Intel that you refer to?

Quote:
IF AMD DID THIS , WE`D CALL IT AMD FAILDOZER MARKETING X2

BUT WHEN PRECIOUS INTEL DOES ALL WILL BE FORGIVEN , ALL HAIL TO INTEL .........

If Intel hadn't been able to do a real demo for Anandtech and BSN, then your complaints would have some merit, but as it is, it is just a sad rant by someone with an unhealthy emotional attachment to AMD.
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January 13, 2012 5:57:48 PM

Lol Chad. I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. Just another pathetic AMD fanboy trying to jump on the "I hate Intel" bandwagon. They'll do anything to trash Intel even when it's something compleatly meaningless like this.
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January 13, 2012 6:01:32 PM

Gordon Freeman said:
Still what he was saying is 100% true and correct information and I am never offended so long as it's the truth.

I don't like being shouted at.
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January 13, 2012 6:02:57 PM

How was what he said the truth?

From the start he was being pretty obvious about not actually playing it, and after about 20 seconds he steps away from it as the punchline. He then makes the point that, no, he wasn't playing it but that this is what you might expect from the DX11 capable HD 4000.
January 13, 2012 6:03:09 PM

Mousemonkey said:
And watch your language.

We are all adults here and if not well kids welcome to the real world where people whine complain fight bicker and troll over stupid things.
January 13, 2012 6:04:26 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I don't like being shouted at.

It's not your problem it's said OP with the problem I just laugh and take it for what it is another internet troll.
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January 13, 2012 6:05:54 PM

Gordon Freeman said:
Still what he was saying is 100% true and correct information and I am never offended so long as it's the truth.


No it's not its all AMD Fanboy BS. Read what Chad wrote thats the truth. No one is getting payed by Intel that's such garbage. Also as Chad said If Intel hadn't been able to do a real demo for Anandtech and BSN, then your complaints would have some merit, but as it is, it is just a sad rant by someone with an unhealthy emotional attachment to AMD. It should have obvious that he wasn't really playing. The point was to show what can be expected of DX11 4000 graphics.
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January 13, 2012 6:06:38 PM

Hey, Freeman. Mousemonkey is an exec at Black Mesa - don't piss him off

=P
January 13, 2012 6:09:52 PM

wolfram23 said:
Hey, Freeman. Mousemonkey is an exec at Black Mesa - don't piss him off

=P

Well EP 3 we will see about that.
January 13, 2012 6:12:45 PM

wolfram23 said:
Hey, Freeman. Mousemonkey is an exec at Black Mesa - don't piss him off

=P

You ever see how when if one has power over an other/many it will ALWAYS corrupt "Absolute power Corrupts absolutely" this is why the American Empire is falling case in point proof.
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January 13, 2012 6:16:21 PM

Gordon Freeman said:
You ever see how when if one has power over an other/many it will ALWAYS corrupt "Absolute power Corrupts absolutely" this is why the American Empire is falling case in point proof.

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