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December 8, 2001 7:23:42 AM

I just upgraded from Windows ME to Windows XP Professional on my Computer.

I did a clean System Install using the Windows XP Professional Upgrade CD-ROM Disk.

I felt that it would be better to install the Windows XP on a new clean IDE Disk Drive after I backed up my Systems, Applications, and Data to another IDE Disk Drive.

During the System Installation it asked me for a Windows Operating System CD-ROM Disk such as Windows 98SE or Windows ME, Etc during the System Installation.

It did not give me a choice when I chose to Format my 80 Gigabyte IDE Western Digital UMDA 100 with FAT32.

The only choices were either NTFS or Quick NTFS.

I use to run Windows ME on my Computer which had one large 80 Gigabyte Disk Drive "C" FAT32 Partition.

How come in Windows XP, it would not allow me to have one single large 80 Gigabyte Disk Drive Partition like I had in Windows ME.

If I had just upgraded over my existing Windows ME in the first place, would it have allowed me to install Windows XP with the existing 80 Gigabyte Disk Drive "C" using FAT32 like it use to have in Windows ME?

I checked the Microsoft Web Site, and it stated that Windows XP is limited to 32 Gigabyte FAT32 Disk Drive Partitions.

How can this be when Windows ME allowed me to have a one single 80 Gigabyte Disk Drive FAT32 Partition "C"?

Jonathan





Jonathan

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December 8, 2001 10:16:09 AM

This should work.
This is for a clean install. Everything on hard drive will be erased.
Boot up your computer and enter the bios. Make sure your floppy drive is the first boot device.
Exit and save changes.
Restart computer with WinMe start up disk in the floppy drive.
At the A prompt type fdisk.
Delete all exsisting partitions.
Then set up a new logical DOS partition.
Now format your hard drive.
After your hard drive is formated reboot computer and enter the bios.
Change the first boot device to CD ROM.
Exit and save changes.
Reboot computer with WinXP CD in the CD ROM.
Windows setup will start.
Eventually it will tell you that no existing version of Windows is present on your hard drive. Don't panic.
You will be asked to insert your WinME CD. Do so. Set up will Continue and copy a few files from the WinME CD. After that it will ask for your WinXP CD and set up will continue. At this point you will be asked how you want to format the hard drive. NTFS or FAT32. Choose which ever you like. Set up will continue and in about 30 minutes you will have loaded XP on to your machine.

Good Luck


<font color=red><i>Happy Canuck</i>!</font color=red> ' :wink: '
December 8, 2001 5:13:07 PM

How large are you Disk Partitions?

Are any of them larger then 32 Gigabytes?

When I wanted to format my 80 Gigabyte IDE Disk Drive as one large Partition, Windows XP Pro did not give me the Option of using FAT32 and only NTFS.

If I had kept my Windows ME System with its one large 80 Gigabyte FAT32 Disk Drive "C", would the Windows XP just performed the Systems Upgrade and left the FAT32 Partition left intact?

I know that NTFS is more secure and stable, but is it slower then NTFS?

Jonathan


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December 8, 2001 5:44:05 PM

One at 20GB.
I don't recall any info about max partition sizes with WinXP.
I have been using WinXP since early October. My hard disk has one primary 20GB NTFS partition.
I was previously using WinME. Since using WinXP I do not think NTFS has any speed differences compared to FAT32.
What it does have is incredible stablity. If a running program crashes it doesn't crash the whole system. Close the crashed program and keep on going. Haven't seen a blue screen yet.
I'd recommend switching to NTFS.

<font color=red><i>Happy Canuck</i>!</font color=red> ' :wink: '
December 8, 2001 7:58:09 PM

ditto...
im using win xp pro. (bah!) on a 60 gig hard drive with a fat32 and 60 gig partition.
i dont see why you cant install xp on a fat32.
i also did a clean install.
you might wanna install win ME 1st with fat32 and then install xp over that (dont install any programs or drivers when you install ME)

I don't claim to know anything about everything, I just tell people what I know.
-PSB
December 8, 2001 8:25:57 PM

Quote:
<font color=green>”…It did not give me a choice when I chose to Format my 80 Gigabyte IDE Western Digital UMDA 100 with FAT32.
The only choices were either NTFS or Quick NTFS.
...I checked the Microsoft Web Site, and it stated that Windows XP is limited to 32 Gigabyte FAT32 Disk Drive Partitions.”</font color=green>

The NTFS is better, especially on clean install without dual boot with other OS. Because, you right, of <b>The Limitations of FAT32 File System </b> such as:

"...When attempting to format a FAT32 partition larger than 32 GB, the format fails near the end of the process with the following error:
<font color=red>Logical Disk Manager: Volume size too big.</font color=red>"

And other limitations described:
<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/search/...|3159107" target="_new">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/search/...|3159107</A>
December 8, 2001 8:41:00 PM

Quote:
<font color=green>”…Restart computer with WinMe start up disk in the floppy drive.
At the A prompt type fdisk.
Delete all exsisting partitions…</font color=green>

I’m afraid, but partitionning by using FDISK won’t work if your HDD is already formatted on NTFS.

I would rather follow your only second part in this case:
<font color=green>“Change the first boot device to CD ROM.
Exit and save changes.
Reboot computer with WinXP CD in the CD ROM.
Windows setup will start.”</font color=green>

Then you’ll be able to delete old, and create new partition(s), format and continue the WinXP installation by Zpyrd's scenario.

And there's a big advantage of formatting large partitions (HDD) from WinXP session: NT uses RAMdrive and therefore format runs very fast.

I have never seen any needs for messing with any DOS tools when clean install of NT, unless dual/multiple boot.
December 8, 2001 11:30:29 PM

Quote:
<font color=green>”… would the Windows XP just performed the Systems Upgrade and left the FAT32 Partition left intact?
… I know that NTFS is more secure and stable, but is it slower then NTFS?”</font color=green>

You can implement benchmarking of your OS “before” and “after”, I think. What Microsoft’s developers think about it (if you don’t mind), also provides some info on performance under NTFS, and explains why clean installation and single partitioning are preferable for WinXP:
<i>” ….<b>Clean Installation Preferred</b>
… Microsoft strongly recommends a clean installation using NTFS. There are several reasons why performance for a clean installation will tend to be superior to that for upgraded systems. An upgraded system will constrain the placement of files and file system data. The old disk format may not use an optimal file system cluster size. In a clean installation, the placement of file system data on the disk and the internal organization of that data can be optimized, resulting in a smaller system footprint and fewer and faster I/Os when using the system.
When performing a clean install, Microsoft recommends that NTFS be used and that the system be installed in a single partition on each disk. Under Windows XP, big partitions are better managed than in previous versions of Windows. Forcing installed software into several partitions on the disk necessitates longer seeks when running the system and software.
If you do choose an upgrade from Windows 2000 or Windows 9x, you may be working with a FAT32 file system. Performance will generally be better if the file system is left as it is, rather than converted to NTFS. A partition converted from FAT32 to NTFS may have to use 512-byte clusters, rather than 4096-byte or 8192-byte clusters, which can result in a higher number of fragmented files….” </i>
[QUOTED from: <A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/platform/performance/ben..." target="_new">http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/platform/performance/ben...;/A> ]
December 11, 2001 2:39:18 PM

Short Answer:

Win XP has a limitation carried over from 2000.
It can read/write to any FATx Partition just fine but the format utility has a 32gig limitation.

Either format before you start the install or use NTFS (my recomendation)
!