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October 13, 2011 10:16:31 PM

Hello, i'm trying to build a new gaming PC for my self. But I really need some help.... I do not have much experience in this, haven't done it before.


Approximate Purchase Date: next month


Budget Range: about 1000 € or about 875£ thats around 1300 $


System Usage from Most to Least Important: mostly gaming, also maybe connecting with my HDTV to watch movies


Parts Not Required:Well i'm going to need everything, so you guys could give some suggestions on all of the accs as well, would be much appreciated

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: well kinda any online shops form the UK like amazon.co.uk and estonian shops(i doubt that You might know of any but i'l try to find if there are any of the parts sold here)


Country of Origin: Estonia and UK(my sis lives in the UK so she can send me the parts in mail)


Parts Preferences: Not really, just the price and value of the item.. can be amd or intel just as long as its good


Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe well kinda all.. at first im not gonna try clocking but i might want to try in the future so i would like to have the option to


SLI or Crossfire: depends... i'd like the machine to be useable in the future as well so might get 1 a bit higher spec gpu atm and upgrade it to sli in the future, or sli right out the gate.. witch ever works better in the long run


Monitor Resolution: not sure, i don't think i'l have more then 1 monitor but that might be with a higher range resu if possible


Additional Comments: I am not the most KNOWLEDGEABLE person about PCs, but i have read the forums for a few days now and watched the newegg 3 part build guide on youtube and I am going to keep reading stuff on this.
The price can vary a bit up(especially if the monitor and keyboard and other stuff are included) or down.

So, i have looked aroudn a bit more and have some of the items chosen.

CPU: INTEL CORE I5 2500K 190€ 261$
http://www.arvutikeskus.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/i5+2500k/I...

PSU: CHIEFTEC PSU 750W 85€ 117$
http://arvutikeskus.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/Chieftec+BPS-7...
is this good enough to later run sli or cross? or shoudl i look for more W

HDD:SEAGATE ST31000524AS 1TB 32MB 7200rpm SATA3 50€ 69$
http://arvutikeskus.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONEN...

MEMORY: recomend some, around 50€ 69$

PCU cooler: Cooler Master HYPER 212 PLUS 26€ 36$

MOBO: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 150€ 206$
http://arvutikeskus.ee/est/Otsing/ASRock+P67+EXTREME4+G...
the problem i have iwth mobo's is that some of the gpus are 3 slot(asus ones) and might have alot of trubles if i'd like to run them in sli/cfire might anyone have any experience with that?

GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 258£ 295€ 406$
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...
or
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 OC WINDFORCE 3X 266£ 304€ 419$
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...

OR maybe insted a HD 6950 or 6970

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6950 TOXIC 2048MB GDDR5 248£ 283€ 390$ (they used to be upgrade to 6970 but do not know if anymore?)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...
Or maybe some other brand?

Or overall witch ones should i be looking at to first use 1 and later sli or cross

CASE: Zalman Z9 Plus PC tower 70€ 96$
http://www.pixmania.com/ee/ee/10344833/art/zalman/z9-pl...
or
Cooler Master Storm Scout 75€ 103 (leaning towards this)
http://www.pixmania.com/ee/ee/2972406/art/cooler-master...

Monitor: ViewSonic 24" LCD VX2453 160€ 220$
http://www.hinnavaatlus.ee/products/Arvutiriistvara/Mon...
or shoudl i be spending more? on monitor

Total around 1060€ thats 1459$
plus a little for a keyboard(have a mouse for the start) and some other stuff that might need

so If You guys could look it over, see if im not making any mistakes anywhere? is the MOBO godo enough to upgrade in the future like the new intel psu or a next gen gpu

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October 13, 2011 10:34:54 PM

If you don't know that much about PC building you should read more. Videos will teach you HOW to build but not what to build. Read reviews from everywhere and decide for yourself what you want. bit-tech.net, hardwarecanucks.com, and anandtech.com are great sites to start along with Tom's of coarse.

I'm not a Euro expert but your budget seems like $800ish. You could build a tight budget Intel or a pretty nice AMD PC with that budget. Just stay away from Bulldozer until AMD releases something based on that tech worth your money.

Edit: With your budget so low and needing a monitor we are going to need more specific information. Follow the sticky on the top of the forum under New Build and we can help you better.
October 15, 2011 11:16:40 PM

So far what i have...

CPU:INTEL CORE I5 2500K 190€ 261$

COOLER:Cooler Master HYPER 212 PLUS 26€ 36$ This i will get a bit later just to get the budget a bit lower.. il get it when i start OCing. Is it ok to first instal with original cooler then later add it?

Case: I'm thinking of this case THERMALTAKE CHASER MK-I it cost like 150€ thats about 205$ Is it worth it? does it have good air flow? room for Asus gtx 3 slot card and even room for 2 in sli?(3 slot cars are the asus gtx570's)

MOBO: torn between ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 150€ 205$ and Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 180€ 249$ Is the Z worth the extra 44$
Do i understand right that the gen 3 means that those boards support the new ivy bridge pcu's and pci 3.0

GPU: ASUS GTX570 DCII 312€ 430$ Is this card worth getting? so far all the reviews say its good. hows the warranty on that? what i mean is does OCing break it? and also using the software Asus it self provides with it also breaks it?

MONITOR: Asus 24" LCD ML248H 196€ 270$ I like the look of it but the main thing is preformance, does it have enough of it?

HDD: SAMSUNG F3 1TB or SEAGATE 1TB 32MB 3boath cost 50€ 70$
WD CAVIAR BLACK 1TB70€ 96$ is it word the extra 26$ if i plan to add a ssd in the future
?
OPTICAL:Samsung DVD-RAM/DVD-RW/DVD+RW15€ 21$

RAM: Kingston DDR3 HyperX PC-12800 1600MHz 4GB CL9 (9-9-9-27) 24€ 33$ this x 2 to get 8 gb in total

PSU: The thing im most confused about. I dont know how much power "W" would this machine need while also thinking of the future when im going to ad a ssd and maybe another asus gtx 570. Might it be 850W?
-CHIEFTEC PSU 850W 14CM ATX12 80+ CAB.MAN 97€ 134$
-Corsair Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 - 850 W 120€ 166$
-Cool Master PSU 850W 13.5CM ATX12V2.3 80+ 115€ 159$
-THERMALTAKE PSU 875W 14CM 80+BRONZE 130€ 180$
or a 1000W
Chieftec PSU 1000W 14CM ATX 80+ 110€ 152$


These prices are the lowest i found that i can buy.

So could u guys look it over again? give some feedback on the Case? Mobo? monitor? and how much "W" do i need out of my PSU if i SLI and add a ssd?

Tnx a million for replays!
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October 16, 2011 12:32:52 AM

kaupol said:
So far what i have...

CPU:INTEL CORE I5 2500K 190€ 261$

COOLER:Cooler Master HYPER 212 PLUS 26€ 36$ This i will get a bit later just to get the budget a bit lower.. il get it when i start OCing. Is it ok to first instal with original cooler then later add it?

Case: I'm thinking of this case THERMALTAKE CHASER MK-I it cost like 150€ thats about 205$ Is it worth it? does it have good air flow? room for Asus gtx 3 slot card and even room for 2 in sli?(3 slot cars are the asus gtx570's)

MOBO: torn between ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 150€ 205$ and Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 180€ 249$ Is the Z worth the extra 44$
Do i understand right that the gen 3 means that those boards support the new ivy bridge pcu's and pci 3.0

GPU: ASUS GTX570 DCII 312€ 430$ Is this card worth getting? so far all the reviews say its good. hows the warranty on that? what i mean is does OCing break it? and also using the software Asus it self provides with it also breaks it?

MONITOR: Asus 24" LCD ML248H 196€ 270$ I like the look of it but the main thing is preformance, does it have enough of it?

HDD: SAMSUNG F3 1TB or SEAGATE 1TB 32MB 3boath cost 50€ 70$
WD CAVIAR BLACK 1TB70€ 96$ is it word the extra 26$ if i plan to add a ssd in the future
?
OPTICAL:Samsung DVD-RAM/DVD-RW/DVD+RW15€ 21$

RAM: Kingston DDR3 HyperX PC-12800 1600MHz 4GB CL9 (9-9-9-27) 24€ 33$ this x 2 to get 8 gb in total

PSU: The thing im most confused about. I dont know how much power "W" would this machine need while also thinking of the future when im going to ad a ssd and maybe another asus gtx 570. Might it be 850W?
-CHIEFTEC PSU 850W 14CM ATX12 80+ CAB.MAN 97€ 134$
-Corsair Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 - 850 W 120€ 166$
-Cool Master PSU 850W 13.5CM ATX12V2.3 80+ 115€ 159$
-THERMALTAKE PSU 875W 14CM 80+BRONZE 130€ 180$
or a 1000W
Chieftec PSU 1000W 14CM ATX 80+ 110€ 152$


These prices are the lowest i found that i can buy.

So could u guys look it over again? give some feedback on the Case? Mobo? monitor? and how much "W" do i need out of my PSU if i SLI and add a ssd?

Tnx a million for replays!

i'd recommend an 850w power supply, and preferably from a reliable company like antec, xfx, seasonic, or corsair, if you're able to get those in estonia. However, I believe they have them in the UK, so you could always have your sister mail them to you.
October 16, 2011 3:13:57 AM

You can find really nice OC'ed 560ti's that perform almost as well as a 570 and it will save you about $100. If you want to SLI you can get away with a 750W as long as your not doing 580's.
October 16, 2011 3:16:29 AM

BohleyK said:
You can find really nice OC'ed 560ti's that perform almost as well as a 570 and it will save you about $100. If you want to SLI you can get away with a 750W as long as your not doing 580's.

but if you oc a 570 you can sometimes get them to perform better than a 580
!