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October 14, 2011 3:24:20 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Mid November
Budget Range: Under 1500 after taxes and shipping
System Usage: Gaming, office related junk, programming
Parts Not Required: Case (Antec 900), Monitor, keyboard, mouse, PSU? (have an antec 500w but dont think it can hack it)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca or tigerdirecet.ca
Country of Origin: Canada
Overclocking: Maybe, though prefer to
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe in the future, rather not risk the stuttering thing at this time.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200, though i tend to game in a window to keep tabs on other things at the same time.
Additional Comments: I prefer good value on my parts and ideally id like this to be on the quieter side of things with minimum fuss.

Currently threw together the following.

Mobo- GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 - 160$
Video- EVGA 012-P3-1571-KR GeForce GTX 570 - 330$
PSU- Antec HCG-620 620W - 80$ after rebate
CPU- Intel Core i5-2500 - 215$
RAM- G.SKILL Sniper 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $110
SSD -Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal - $120 after rebate
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb - 90$ after rebate
OS- win 7 home premium oem - 110$
cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 - 40$

after taxes and shipping comes to around 1350ish

Essentially looking for a sanity check or smarter alternatives where applicable. Rather go single card for now but have the sli option available later down the road. Would like to know if I could reuse my current 500w psu or not. TBH that cooler kinda creeps me out a bit but ive always been a bit jittery on cooler install since cracking an amd back in 2000.

Thanks in advance.

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October 14, 2011 4:10:23 PM



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Mobo- GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 - 160$

Solid motherboard choice IMO. It's middle of the road, not too expensive and not too cheap. My P67A-UD4-B3 is chugging along just dandy :) 

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Video- EVGA 012-P3-1571-KR GeForce GTX 570 - 330$
PSU- Antec HCG-620 620W - 80$ after rebate

I'd suggest getting a 750W for a single 570 and 850W for 2x570s. 750W will give you more headroom so the PSU isn't running on max load, and you'll get better efficiencies.

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CPU- Intel Core i5-2500 - 215$

No 2500K? How much more is it for the K version in Canada?

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RAM- G.SKILL Sniper 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $110

Why 16GB RAM? Unless you run a lot of very heavy computational programs (i.e. MATLAB codes, heavy CAD, etc), you won't even come close to using this. Games use ~3-4GB on average, and your added usage will probably use another 1-3GB, depending on the program.

I would get an 8GB kit now, and if you actually need 16GB get a second of the exact kit later.

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SSD -Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal - $120 after rebate
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb - 90$ after rebate

Crucial M4 - best SSD to buy right now. Stick with it.

WD Green - one of the slowest drives. I would get a Samsung F3 1TB instead of a WD drive because they're faster and cheaper (at least here in the States - about $20 cheaper). If you need a 2TB drive, get the F4, or you could get two F3s and RAID them for redundancy or for increased speed.

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cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 - 40$

The Hyper 212+ is an awesome cooler for the price. I've owned two, and it's definitely one of the most popular here on Tom's. I'd recommend it - as long as you mount it properly, you won't have any problems. Use the Youtube video, not the included instructions (they don't make any sense).
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October 14, 2011 4:27:48 PM

Best build i can give you at $1,520 appr. after mail in rebates and %off coupons:

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Free Gifts:

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Like i said, its all totalled under $1,520, but thats after MIR and % off coupons. Could change depending on when you buy.


If you arent OC'ing the processor yet, you do not need an aftermarket HSF, so you can wait on the 212+ until you wanted to OC your system.

HDD's are cheap, and can be raided for extra performance/security, as well as increased space. If you need more, you can always add another.

Until you give a reason for 16Gb of RAM, 8Gb is overkill for almost everything!

The 580GTX and the i7 2600k is better for gaming by far, and the i7 will give you a better application use performance than the i5.

No need on spending a ton of money on a motherboard, unless it doesnt have the features you need.

the corsair 950W i have on there will support even a second GTX580. Have fun!
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October 14, 2011 4:40:24 PM

When gaming there are very few games that can take advantage of more than 3 threads because of this the hyper-threading on the Intel® Core™ i7-2600K has very minimal value in gaming. That means that the Intel Core i7-2600K has only 100MHz and 2MB more cache than the Intel Core i5-2500K but costs a $100 more. You would get better value out of spending the $100 on a small SSD like the Intel SSD 320 40GB to use as a caching drive on a Z68 board.

Now if you are going to be doing something like audio/video creation you may want to go with the Intel Core i7-2600K as those extra threads can play a big part in performance with those types of applications.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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October 14, 2011 4:46:24 PM

he said programming so i figured he would need a bit more in the processor region. However, the i5 2500k would be fine i guess. and yes, then you could use that extra $100 for a larger SSD or even more memory.
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October 14, 2011 4:47:31 PM

I like all your choices and Im sure the PSU would be fine. Yes I would go with a 650 instead of a 620 seems trivial but Im an overclcoker
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October 14, 2011 4:50:39 PM

First off, all of the items you posted are from the US; the OP is in Canada, and the prices are numerically a bit higher there.


Even though I own Hitachi drives, I wouldn't recommend them to new buyers because there are better drives for the money, specifically the Samsung F3/F4.


A 64GB drive will hold the OS just fine - I have 15GB free on my 64 and I have W7 64bit and the Office 2010 Pro Plus suite installed.


There isn't a real need for the 580. Yes, the OP could afford it, but the 570 can easily be OCed past 580 speeds, and 2x570s > 1x580 any day.


TBH the 950TX isn't a spectacular unit. I'd recommend an HX/AX series Corsair, or something like the PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750w or 950W (specifically). Those units are all built by Seasonic, the best in the business.


Not many differences between motherboards...


Unless the OP is using applications that allow for the use of hyperthreading, there is absolutely no reason to buy the i7-2600K. It doesn't perform any better in games than the i5-2500K.



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If you arent OC'ing the processor yet, you do not need an aftermarket HSF, so you can wait on the 212+ until you wanted to OC your system.

I never OCed with my Hyper 212+, or even my liquid cooling setup yet, but the lower temps are always nice. A good cooler can also help the airflow in the case.

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HDD's are cheap, and can be raided for extra performance/security, as well as increased space. If you need more, you can always add another.

Agreed. That's my justification for recommending one or more F3s.
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October 14, 2011 4:52:11 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
When gaming there are very few games that can take advantage of more than 3 threads because of this the hyper-threading on the Intel® Core™ i7-2600K has very minimal value in gaming. That means that the Intel Core i7-2600K has only 100MHz and 2MB more cache than the Intel Core i5-2500K but costs a $100 more. You would get better value out of spending the $100 on a small SSD like the Intel SSD 320 40GB to use as a caching drive on a Z68 board.

Now if you are going to be doing something like audio/video creation you may want to go with the Intel Core i7-2600K as those extra threads can play a big part in performance with those types of applications.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team


+1. It's nice seeing a company rep that actually understands the practical applications of their products rather than just saying "It's more expensive so it must be better so you should buy it." :) 
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October 14, 2011 4:53:48 PM

750 watts for one card ? Wow guy thats more than enough to run 2 570's
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October 14, 2011 5:00:41 PM

spentshells said:
750 watts for one card ? Wow guy thats more than enough to run 2 570's


It gives you the appropriate headroom for OCing as well as better efficiencies. Plus, this thing is going to be run at load for most of its life, so a bigger PSU is definitely a worthwhile purchase. Yes, you can run a 2500K-570 on a 650W, but your load will be higher.
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