Where has the speed gone?
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malderson
January 14, 2012 11:42:58 AM
Where is the most likely bottleneck occuring for this system:
HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz
• 2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM)
• 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) 1333 MHz
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 15.6" Full HD HP Anti-glare LED (1920 x 1080)
While idling, windows is sluggish. Just got the Laptop and it is sometimes slower than my i3 running windows 7 32-bit..
HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz
• 2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM)
• 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) 1333 MHz
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 15.6" Full HD HP Anti-glare LED (1920 x 1080)
While idling, windows is sluggish. Just got the Laptop and it is sometimes slower than my i3 running windows 7 32-bit..
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de5_Roy
January 14, 2012 12:32:15 PM
rolli59
January 14, 2012 12:35:59 PM
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alyoshka
January 14, 2012 1:39:51 PM
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
That's the culprit.
Plus you can tweak the OS and make a lot of difference in speeds by changing the background process schedules.
So you still have a lot to do and go thru and see that other than the obvious HDD factor what else is slowing down the rig. Check Resource Monitor in the Task manager performance tab, see if you're getting too many Hard faults, disk writing errors, etc etc
That's the culprit.
Plus you can tweak the OS and make a lot of difference in speeds by changing the background process schedules.
So you still have a lot to do and go thru and see that other than the obvious HDD factor what else is slowing down the rig. Check Resource Monitor in the Task manager performance tab, see if you're getting too many Hard faults, disk writing errors, etc etc
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geekapproved
January 14, 2012 2:00:03 PM
His question was "where has the speed GONE", meaning it was fast at one time, so not sure how it could be the 5400rpm hd.
Your i3 has a higher clock speed, so of course the i7 is going to SEEM as slow or slower in non multi-threaded apps.
When is the last time you did a disk cleanup and disk defrag?
Virus scan?
Your i3 has a higher clock speed, so of course the i7 is going to SEEM as slow or slower in non multi-threaded apps.
When is the last time you did a disk cleanup and disk defrag?
Virus scan?
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rolli59
January 14, 2012 2:02:17 PM
geekapproved said:
His question was "where has the speed GONE", meaning it was fast at one time, so not sure how it could be the 5400rpm hd.Your i3 has a higher clock speed, so of course it's going to be faster in non multi-threaded apps.
When is the last time you did a disk cleanup and disk defrag?
Virus scan?
He also states that he just got it and is comparing it to his I3!
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geekapproved
January 14, 2012 3:03:10 PM
vigilante212
January 14, 2012 3:15:43 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 4:06:39 PM
HP bloatware. I bet if you open up programs and features there is about 150-200 thing installed on that thing with 80% of it being crap installed by HP. Open up taskmanager and see how many processes are running. Im guessing 65-70. Compare taskmanager and programs and features between the 2. Also run and compare msconfig and check to see what is starting up with windows.
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davcon
January 14, 2012 4:49:58 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 5:03:13 PM
cuecuemore
January 14, 2012 5:25:59 PM
malderson
January 14, 2012 7:45:19 PM
Ah, sorry for the delay.
For starters, I suppose should mention the other laptop's important specs.
The i3 is a 2.1 GHz dual, I believe, with a 5400 rpm HDD as well as similar ram [only 3.16 GB usable out of 4 installed, thank you 32-bit]
I do not think it is the HDD, though technically it is the slowest part.
Bloat-ware is a likely culprit, but after uninstalling as much as I wanted to, and selecting others to not start on start-up, it is still slow. Another thing, the performance setting is on the default "High Performance" setting.
System Defragmenter showed nothing as well, as I've known this to cause a slowdown in HDD's.
I was leaning more towards a defective CPU possibly? Maybe one (or more) of the cores is inoperable? I am not sure what that would cause as it has never happened to me.
Another thing I was thinking is MAYBE, just maybe, it is the 64-bit difference? But at any rate, I thought 64-bit was supposed to be all-around more responsive.
Thanks for the feedback thus far.
For starters, I suppose should mention the other laptop's important specs.
The i3 is a 2.1 GHz dual, I believe, with a 5400 rpm HDD as well as similar ram [only 3.16 GB usable out of 4 installed, thank you 32-bit]
I do not think it is the HDD, though technically it is the slowest part.
Bloat-ware is a likely culprit, but after uninstalling as much as I wanted to, and selecting others to not start on start-up, it is still slow. Another thing, the performance setting is on the default "High Performance" setting.
System Defragmenter showed nothing as well, as I've known this to cause a slowdown in HDD's.
I was leaning more towards a defective CPU possibly? Maybe one (or more) of the cores is inoperable? I am not sure what that would cause as it has never happened to me.
Another thing I was thinking is MAYBE, just maybe, it is the 64-bit difference? But at any rate, I thought 64-bit was supposed to be all-around more responsive.
Thanks for the feedback thus far.
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d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 7:56:28 PM
Could try to run a registry cleaner.
I personally use WinASO registry optimizer, it has a cleaner, registry defragmenter and a system optimizer. You can download the trial the only limitation is it will only fix 10 registry errors at a time.
http://www.winaso.com/registry_optimizer/
I like it more than Ccleaner and it seems like it finds stuff Ccleaner dont plus all the extra stuff that comes with it.
I personally use WinASO registry optimizer, it has a cleaner, registry defragmenter and a system optimizer. You can download the trial the only limitation is it will only fix 10 registry errors at a time.
http://www.winaso.com/registry_optimizer/
I like it more than Ccleaner and it seems like it finds stuff Ccleaner dont plus all the extra stuff that comes with it.
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malderson
January 14, 2012 8:05:52 PM
One thing I looked at was an in-browser CPU test at:
http://fossiltoys.com/speed.html
The i7 scored ~5000 max, ~4700 average, and a low of ~4200
I am curious if any of you have a comparable i7 to test, or if I should try another program to evaluate system speed.
http://fossiltoys.com/speed.html
The i7 scored ~5000 max, ~4700 average, and a low of ~4200
I am curious if any of you have a comparable i7 to test, or if I should try another program to evaluate system speed.
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d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 8:17:07 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 8:22:57 PM
malderson
January 14, 2012 8:26:19 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 8:28:28 PM
malderson
January 14, 2012 8:45:43 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 8:54:09 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 8:55:08 PM
malderson
January 14, 2012 9:01:37 PM
When no programs are open after turning the computer [from off, not restarting] the processes total 1-2% of CPU. What is interesting is that the processes total does not match up to the CPU usage at the bottom of Task Manager, which shows anywhere from 25-50% fluctuating.
Antivirus was ran and found nothing.
So does this mean that something is not showing itself but is utilizing my processor?
There is also only one user.
Antivirus was ran and found nothing.
So does this mean that something is not showing itself but is utilizing my processor?
There is also only one user.
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d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 9:07:25 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 9:08:30 PM
malderson
January 14, 2012 9:10:44 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 9:29:24 PM
d1rtyju1c3
January 14, 2012 9:40:01 PM
malderson
January 15, 2012 4:51:51 AM
d1rtyju1c3
January 15, 2012 6:49:49 PM
amuffin
January 15, 2012 10:20:27 PM
floatpoint
January 16, 2012 8:41:44 AM
If you have the time and are willing - give yourself a fresh start and reformat. In that way you have control over what is installed.
Simply uninstalling might still leave traces of the applications on the disk, in the registry, etc. Sure you can install apps like system optimizers and registry mechanic, etc, but thats just more crap been added to your system.
Once reinstalled, go to Services and disable any unnessary running services for even faster startup's, and also check what other apps not listed in Services.msc auto start at boot and disable those you dont need. Just make sure you dont disable critical components, so a system restore point might be wise before changing anything
Simply uninstalling might still leave traces of the applications on the disk, in the registry, etc. Sure you can install apps like system optimizers and registry mechanic, etc, but thats just more crap been added to your system.
Once reinstalled, go to Services and disable any unnessary running services for even faster startup's, and also check what other apps not listed in Services.msc auto start at boot and disable those you dont need. Just make sure you dont disable critical components, so a system restore point might be wise before changing anything
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