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January 14, 2012 11:42:58 AM

Where is the most likely bottleneck occuring for this system:

HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz
• 2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM)
• 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) 1333 MHz
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 15.6" Full HD HP Anti-glare LED (1920 x 1080)


While idling, windows is sluggish. Just got the Laptop and it is sometimes slower than my i3 running windows 7 32-bit..

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January 14, 2012 12:32:15 PM

did you check the power profiles?
try setting it to high performance (will cause faster battery drain) or balanced.
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January 14, 2012 12:35:59 PM

Apart from the power profiles the slowest bit is the 5400rpm HDD. A faster storage would make it more responsive.
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January 14, 2012 1:39:51 PM

• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
That's the culprit.
Plus you can tweak the OS and make a lot of difference in speeds by changing the background process schedules.
So you still have a lot to do and go thru and see that other than the obvious HDD factor what else is slowing down the rig. Check Resource Monitor in the Task manager performance tab, see if you're getting too many Hard faults, disk writing errors, etc etc
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January 14, 2012 2:00:03 PM

His question was "where has the speed GONE", meaning it was fast at one time, so not sure how it could be the 5400rpm hd.

Your i3 has a higher clock speed, so of course the i7 is going to SEEM as slow or slower in non multi-threaded apps.

When is the last time you did a disk cleanup and disk defrag?

Virus scan?
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January 14, 2012 2:02:17 PM

geekapproved said:
His question was "where has the speed GONE", meaning it was fast at one time, so not sure how it could be the 5400rpm hd.

Your i3 has a higher clock speed, so of course it's going to be faster in non multi-threaded apps.

When is the last time you did a disk cleanup and disk defrag?

Virus scan?

He also states that he just got it and is comparing it to his I3!
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January 14, 2012 3:03:10 PM

Yeah not sure why he thinks a 2.2ghz i7 would be faster than a i3 at 3.1ghz+ when idling in Windows....it should be the same or slower.
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January 14, 2012 3:15:43 PM

The i series chipsets also throttle back in idle so its possible thats one reason for the sluggishness. You can turn this feature off, but it will chew through your laptop battery much faster.
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January 14, 2012 4:06:39 PM

HP bloatware. I bet if you open up programs and features there is about 150-200 thing installed on that thing with 80% of it being crap installed by HP. Open up taskmanager and see how many processes are running. Im guessing 65-70. Compare taskmanager and programs and features between the 2. Also run and compare msconfig and check to see what is starting up with windows.
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January 14, 2012 4:49:58 PM

^+1 i agree 100% it's full of crap.
A friend had the same issue with his new Acer laptop.
Did a re-install of a clean Win7(minus all the bloat) = problem solved!
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January 14, 2012 5:03:13 PM

It seems like every time when they release a new model they just add more crap that you dont need. :non: 
if they would just give us a clean Windows install we could download their crap if we wanted it. :lol: 
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January 14, 2012 5:25:59 PM

Have not read all of the responses, but the bottleneck on your system is all of the bloatware that came with it. If you go into Programs and Features and uninstall all of the ~"HP Helpful Nonsense Center" stuff you'll have a snappier system right away.
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January 14, 2012 7:45:19 PM

Ah, sorry for the delay.
For starters, I suppose should mention the other laptop's important specs.
The i3 is a 2.1 GHz dual, I believe, with a 5400 rpm HDD as well as similar ram [only 3.16 GB usable out of 4 installed, thank you 32-bit]

I do not think it is the HDD, though technically it is the slowest part.

Bloat-ware is a likely culprit, but after uninstalling as much as I wanted to, and selecting others to not start on start-up, it is still slow. Another thing, the performance setting is on the default "High Performance" setting.

System Defragmenter showed nothing as well, as I've known this to cause a slowdown in HDD's.

I was leaning more towards a defective CPU possibly? Maybe one (or more) of the cores is inoperable? I am not sure what that would cause as it has never happened to me.


Another thing I was thinking is MAYBE, just maybe, it is the 64-bit difference? But at any rate, I thought 64-bit was supposed to be all-around more responsive.

Thanks for the feedback thus far.
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January 14, 2012 7:56:28 PM

Could try to run a registry cleaner.
I personally use WinASO registry optimizer, it has a cleaner, registry defragmenter and a system optimizer. You can download the trial the only limitation is it will only fix 10 registry errors at a time.

http://www.winaso.com/registry_optimizer/

I like it more than Ccleaner and it seems like it finds stuff Ccleaner dont plus all the extra stuff that comes with it.
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January 14, 2012 8:05:52 PM

One thing I looked at was an in-browser CPU test at:
http://fossiltoys.com/speed.html

The i7 scored ~5000 max, ~4700 average, and a low of ~4200

I am curious if any of you have a comparable i7 to test, or if I should try another program to evaluate system speed.
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January 14, 2012 8:17:07 PM

hold on I have an i5 laptop. I will test and get back with the results.
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January 14, 2012 8:22:57 PM

mine is 10000 min, 12000 avg, 13000 max but I dont know how legit these scores are.

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January 14, 2012 8:26:19 PM

I would assume it is highly dependent on the web browser. Do you know of any other programs I can use?
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January 14, 2012 8:28:28 PM

Try a quick run of super_pi 1M calculations and post the time.
Mine will calculate 1M in 16sec.
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January 14, 2012 8:45:43 PM

23.764 seconds is the 1M result.
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January 14, 2012 8:54:09 PM

Open task manager, how many processes are running, cpu usage(what is using it), and memory usage.
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January 14, 2012 8:55:08 PM

Make sure you check processes for all users in the lower left hand corner.
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January 14, 2012 9:01:37 PM

When no programs are open after turning the computer [from off, not restarting] the processes total 1-2% of CPU. What is interesting is that the processes total does not match up to the CPU usage at the bottom of Task Manager, which shows anywhere from 25-50% fluctuating.
Antivirus was ran and found nothing.
So does this mean that something is not showing itself but is utilizing my processor?

There is also only one user.
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January 14, 2012 9:07:25 PM

How many processes does it say is running in the bottom left corner.
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January 14, 2012 9:08:30 PM

I know there is only 1 user but it hides system processes if it isnt checked.
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January 14, 2012 9:10:44 PM

81 processes, and with the exception of system idle, still total to 1-2%
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January 14, 2012 9:29:24 PM

81 processes is alot. It needs to be around 60 or less, and if your CPU usage at the bottom center is 25-50% then something else is using the CPU. Task manager dont calculate system idle in the usage so that aint it.
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January 14, 2012 9:40:01 PM

Click the cpu tab at the top so that it sorts the processes that are from most cpu usage to lowest. that will tell you what is using your CPU.
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January 15, 2012 4:51:51 AM

I did, and they total 1-2%
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January 15, 2012 6:49:49 PM

Im not sure then. If Task manager says 25-50% (bottom center) then something else is utilizing the cpu but I am not sure what it would be and why you cant see what it is in task manager. Try running malwarebytes and see if it comes up with anything.
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January 15, 2012 10:20:27 PM

Get a better hdd! Also uninstall all that crap bloatware.
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January 16, 2012 8:41:44 AM

If you have the time and are willing - give yourself a fresh start and reformat. In that way you have control over what is installed.

Simply uninstalling might still leave traces of the applications on the disk, in the registry, etc. Sure you can install apps like system optimizers and registry mechanic, etc, but thats just more crap been added to your system.

Once reinstalled, go to Services and disable any unnessary running services for even faster startup's, and also check what other apps not listed in Services.msc auto start at boot and disable those you dont need. Just make sure you dont disable critical components, so a system restore point might be wise before changing anything
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