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PNY 560ti for $177 is it worth it?

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August 16, 2011 8:49:10 AM

I currently have an ATI 4890 in my system with an i7 920 and all the other goods, but I'm feeling the itch to upgrade my card for BF3. My question is, there is a deal on B&H here that brings down the price of a 560ti to a nice $177. However I'm just not quite sure about PNY, is it really worth saving the money to go with them or would I be better off getting a more expensive 560ti from a more reputable brand. Are there any better cards that would be more worth the money?

Thanks!

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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2011 12:29:50 PM

I don't know a whole lot about PNY, but I do know I would want a video card capable of handle DX11 for some of the upcoming titles. What's the difference in price from PNY to a company like EVGA or XFX?
August 16, 2011 6:21:50 PM

EVGA has the 560ti for around $220 right now so it's about a $40-$50 difference between the PNY one on sale and the rest of the 560's.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2011 6:41:36 PM

Are you sure it's a 560ti and not just a 560?
a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2011 6:54:23 PM

yeah, if it's the ti for 177, get it. The ti has more shaders so make sure it does first.
a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2011 10:39:53 PM

yeah id say its worth it, at least pny is good for their warrantys as I have experienced first hand with my former gtx 570
a c 539 U Graphics card
August 16, 2011 11:35:26 PM

Go with a good American company, like PNY, with a lifetime warranty and nice extras in the box.
a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2011 11:51:06 PM

PNY is a great company, free movie download, good customer service, (so i have heard) and I own 4gb of their RAM and I love it. PNY has always offered good products as far as I have seen.
August 19, 2011 7:07:40 PM

Another question, would it be worth upgrading to something like a 6950 2gb? I'm going to upgrade my card mainly for BF3.
August 19, 2011 7:16:05 PM

Magicmountainman said:
Another question, would it be worth upgrading to something like a 6950 2gb? I'm going to upgrade my card mainly for BF3.


gtx 560 is far enough for crappy console ported like BF3

plus the performance gap between gtx 560ti and 6950 is unnoticed small.... but 100 bucks cheaper
a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2011 8:42:06 PM

get the right ti and the right oc and the ti will crush a 6950, and come darn close to a gtx 570/6970 not that the 6950 can't be oc'ed/unlocked but im just saying... imo the ti is the hot ticket for price/perf imo I have an asus DC2 running fully stable at 1ghz core and low temps, paid 220 AR
a c 539 U Graphics card
August 19, 2011 9:57:01 PM

Gigabyte just started selling their 1ghz GTX 560 Ti again, after several months of only selling the 950 mhz version. But jjb has the right idea, buy any 560 Ti with good cooling and shoot for 1ghz on your own.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 12:41:49 AM

yeah seriously it is neck and neck with the 570
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 2:30:36 AM

My PNY 570 has been great so far, Id say thats definitely worth it.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 2:41:12 AM

Yeah, the performance of a 570 is perfect for 1080p imo. Of course you can throw out metro and others like it from that statement but overall it is a great performer at that res, great BFBC2 performance which for me is darn important to me.
a c 539 U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 3:10:22 AM

BFBC2 really allows you to play with the settings when you have a top tier card like the 570 or 580. I still haven't figured out if 32x CSAA is better than 8x MSAA, but they both look good and perform about the same. With the framerates I'm getting on a 580, I'm sure you can do pretty much all the same things on a 560 Ti and still be well within the playable range.
August 20, 2011 6:59:35 PM

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/764567-REG/PNY_Te...

The price went up a bit, but this card is supposed to be clocked at 900, although for some reason this spec sheet says 850.

So basically I've deduced that the 560ti is the best bang for the buck card. If I want to overclock one I need one with good cooling though. Would a single fan solution like the PNY card allow for adequate overclocking? Or would something like one of the MSI cards be better suited for that?

And please, don't tell me that BF3 is a crappy console port... =P
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 7:00:17 PM

yeah and either way I usually stick to 8x msaa or even 4xaa in more demanding games
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 7:01:31 PM

personally I wouldn't care about the overclock that the manufacturer gives out of the box id take a stock clocked one with a sick cooler like the asus dc2 or msi hawk, that way you can oc yourself way beyond 900 mhz and your card will be able to cope
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 7:29:40 PM

Not worth $225. You can buy a 6870 at newegg for $145 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and crossfire it later if you want for much cheaper than 2 560 ti's, and the crossfire 6870's are as fast as sli 560 ti's.

Or if you are willing to pay over $200 get this 6950 for $210 with Deus Ex + free shipping. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also as BC3 is an AMD sponsored title there is no way the 6950 won't give better performance than the 560 ti.
August 20, 2011 7:35:28 PM

What about the MSI Twin Frozr? Or is it worth the extra $15 to go with the Hawk?
August 20, 2011 7:36:33 PM

Oh dang. Well that puts a wrench in things, thanks Eyefinity!
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 7:37:16 PM

No problem, I'm here to prevent people overspending on slower nvidia hardware. :sol: 
August 20, 2011 7:40:53 PM

Hahahaha well sadly I have an Asus P6tse mobo which isn't the best for Crossfire and I don't even think it allows for SLI so I'm going to try to go with the best single card solution possible. Would stepping up to 2gbs on the 6950 be worth it in the long run?

And as of right now I'm torn between the 560ti Hawk or equivalent and the 6950, which has how I've been for the past month... :pt1cable: 
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 7:48:45 PM

I wouldn't bother with the 2GB one (unless you planned on eyefinity or have a 30" screen maybe) although maybe if you wanted to unlock it to a 6970 in future.

It's all about the pricing tbh. Some people seem to be finding very cheap 560's and that one which was $177 would have been a good deal. Obviously you aren't going to pay more for it compared to the 6950 though.

I wouldn't rush it actually, wait until the benchmarks are out and see then. If a real bargain comes available you might wanna jump on it, but it's not like your 4890 is a slow card or anything. ;) 

And none of the current cards will be going up in price, obviously.
August 20, 2011 7:54:22 PM

Yeah that's true, I'm guessing that when the beta comes out it will be a telling sign of how certain cards will perform in the game. And no, my 4890 isn't bad. ;) 
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:11:11 PM

eyefinity said:
No problem, I'm here to prevent people overspending on slower nvidia hardware. :sol: 


yeah crossfire 6870s work like ***, have you ever owned them? I have, the drivers are horrible horrible minimum fps. I'd rather have less stable performance but that just me and btw my gtx 560ti when oc'ed to 1ghz is right there with a gtx 570/6970 so why is that not the best value? I 6870 might be cheap but it will be nowhere near the performance of a ti with a nice oc
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:14:58 PM

jjb8675309 said:
yeah crossfire 6870s work like ***, have you ever owned them? I have, the drivers are horrible horrible minimum fps. I'd rather have less stable performance but that just me and btw my gtx 560ti when oc'ed to 1ghz is right there with a gtx 570/6970 so why is that not the best value? I 6870 might be cheap but it will be nowhere near the performance of a ti with a nice oc


If you can't work crossfire out it's almost certainly down to user error.

You can overclock the 6950. You can unlock some of them to 6970's.

There is basically no point in buying the 560 Ti unless it is a good bit cheaper than the 6950. Overclocking is not a guarantee, and the parts that oc high generally cost more because of the higher quality board parts required. It also invalidates the warranty. The average stock 560 ti doesn't overclock anywhere near 1 GHz.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:17:06 PM

^ oh yeah user error okay!? then why are there several competent users that deem crossfire crap!? I am not the only one. Im not saying they can't be modded/ oc'ed but unlocking is generally a thing of the past. If you buy a high quality model ti such as the asus dc2 or msi hawk then there is a very good chance that it will have a high oc. In the other thread where you are putting down tis having no experience with them mind you, Jack Naylor is saying that hes owned several tis and the top model ones all achieved a 1 ghz oc with very little voltage increase, Ill take real world experience over anything.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:20:32 PM

Also, on this "awesome" overclocking performance.







1 GHz 560 Ti's barely scrape past stock 6950's. You would pay more for a card which you have to strangle every inch of performance out of (and hope it's stable) just for 1-2 fps? I wouldn't.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:23:00 PM

well depends on what game your looking at so again thanks for the biased examples, there are some games out there that the ti at stock blows away a 6950 and others where the 6950 wins but with a high oc (even 950 core) the ti will crush a 6950 in most games except for maybe a select few that heavily favor amd (AvP)
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:23:34 PM

Im just saying if you have no experience in owning or overclocking a ti, and I myself do then why would the OP listen to you?

Learn how to link a damn link and why not show some games that aren't heavily favored by amd gpus? I know you wouldn't bring up the old crysis 2 argument that you got shot down with the other week...

Ive said my piece so if you wanna go on and on with your bs then go ahead im out
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:27:46 PM

jjb8675309 said:
Im just saying if you have no experience in owning or overclocking a ti, and I myself do then why would the OP listen to you?

Learn how to link a damn link and why not show some games that aren't heavily favored by amd gpus? I know you wouldn't bring up the old crysis 2 argument that you got shot down with the other week...

Ive said my piece so if you wanna go on and on with your bs then go ahead im out


So I need to OWN a card to be able to see what REVIEWERS WHO ARE PAID TO DO IT AS THEIR JOB are saying about it? God that's the most **** idiotic thing I've read today.

The 560 Ti is an inferior card to the 6950 in every way. EOD.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:28:50 PM

jjb8675309 said:
well depends on what game your looking at so again thanks for the biased examples, there are some games out there that the ti at stock blows away a 6950 and others where the 6950 wins but with a high oc (even 950 core) the ti will crush a 6950 in most games except for maybe a select few that heavily favor amd (AvP)


Did I link AvP? Where are those games where the 560 Ti is "crushing" a 6950? Do you actually mean Crysis 2?

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28597&page=1...





There you go, loses AvP slightly and slightly wins at Just Cause 2. Crushing victory according to you right? What do you think would happen if the 6950 was given just a teeeny weeeny little overclock? You think the 6950 might go ahead again? Hmm?
August 20, 2011 8:49:36 PM

Looking at that last 6950 that was posted, if it's such a great card, why 23% bad reviews?

And even on this site, the 560 Ti seems to be a favorite bang for the buck card, especially considering you don't have to break $200 for a card that's stable while pushing 900Mhz.

And lastly, keep in mind that Nvidia's 600 line is launching this November, (if i recall correctly). you might be able to hold on for now, and snag something bigger when everything drops in price.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 8:52:48 PM

spearphish said:
Looking at that last 6950 that was posted, if it's such a great card, why 23% bad reviews?

And even on this site, the 560 Ti seems to be a favorite bang for the buck card, especially considering you don't have to break $200 for a card that's stable while pushing 900Mhz.

And lastly, keep in mind that Nvidia's 600 line is launching this November, (if i recall correctly). you might be able to hold on for now, and snag something bigger when everything drops in price.


The reason the 560 Ti is a "favourite" card on this site is because of the perpetual lie that it is somehow super-awesome at 1 GHz, so much that it easily beats a 6950. The fact is, the 6950 with a mild overclock would overtake it again in just about every game that didn't massively favour Nvidia.

People would actually pay more for a slower card that has to be overclocked within an inch of it's life to match the 6950. That says it all really.
August 20, 2011 10:15:34 PM

For being a 1GB seemingly stock 560 ti, competing against 2GB Sapphire 6950 models, doesn't the 560 kinda hold its own?
My last card was an XFX 5870, and it was a solid buy. You won't be disappointed with it.
And dear reader, I'm sorry your thread turned into an argument.
August 20, 2011 10:22:17 PM

If its a really a Ti for $177 I'll take 2, please post a link.
a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2011 10:27:35 PM

That's the best price I've seen for that kind of performance get it!
August 20, 2011 11:03:23 PM

Why are you talking so much. Check out some GTX 560 Ti (Gigabyte SOC, ASUS TOP and MSI HAWK) reviews dude.

Here:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-gtx-560-ti-soc-r...


http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-gtx560-directcu-ii-r...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-ha...

read those out and then speak.

I too am an Asus GTX 560TI owner. Take my word, that thing can really match a stock GTX 570 when overclocked. I am not saying a 6950 is not good. I am just saying that the 560Ti is a bang for the buck considering the price/performance ratio.



and mind you, try to respect others. especially your senior members of this forum "jjb8675309". then you may get respect from other people too.
August 20, 2011 11:20:19 PM

tokencode said:
If its a really a Ti for $177 I'll take 2, please post a link.


It's in the OP :D  However the price went up a bit.

And man oh man I didn't mean for this to turn into a fight! But I don't mind just don't hate each other.

However I will ask this:

1) Which card is more futureproof since I probably won't be upgrading a card for another 2-3 years?
--1GB 560ti -or- 2GB 6950 with possible unlock to a 6970 through BIOS--

2) Which card (in your opinion, since nothing is really factual yet) will play Battlefield 3 better?

3) Which card will support video editors more, since I'm also a big film guy.

Thanks again. ;) 
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 1:03:10 AM

Magicmountainman said:
It's in the OP :D  However the price went up a bit.

And man oh man I didn't mean for this to turn into a fight! But I don't mind just don't hate each other.

However I will ask this:

1) Which card is more futureproof since I probably won't be upgrading a card for another 2-3 years?
--1GB 560ti -or- 2GB 6950 with possible unlock to a 6970 through BIOS--

2) Which card (in your opinion, since nothing is really factual yet) will play Battlefield 3 better?

3) Which card will support video editors more, since I'm also a big film guy.

Thanks again. ;) 

For future proof, the hd6950 does have 2gb RAM, and I have heard BFBC2 prefers AMD cards. Also, you can unlock into a hd6970 which would normally beat a GTX 560 ti OCed, but not a GTX 560 ti at 1ghz. You could OC the unlocked hd6950 too. Nvidia has CUDA, which helps in video editing and things like that, so you can't really go wrong! :D 
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 1:04:54 AM

irfan88 said:
Why are you talking so much. Check out some GTX 560 Ti (Gigabyte SOC, ASUS TOP and MSI HAWK) reviews dude.

Here:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-gtx-560-ti-soc-r...


http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-gtx560-directcu-ii-r...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-ha...

read those out and then speak.


That's one website. The same one every nvidia fanboy keeps linking. I wonder why that is?

Find more then speak, otherwise shut it.

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I too am an Asus GTX 560TI owner. Take my word, that thing can really match a stock GTX 570 when overclocked. I am not saying a 6950 is not good. I am just saying that the 560Ti is a bang for the buck considering the price/performance ratio.


Do you also have a 570? I guess not. So how do you know? Exactly. Shut it.


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and mind you, try to respect others. especially your senior members of this forum "jjb8675309". then you may get respect from other people too.


Don't talk rubbish to me about "senior members", I've been here a lot longer than the vast majority of posters here. The only difference is I'm not part of the Nvidia clique.
August 21, 2011 3:11:36 AM

Hey.............watch your mouth.....dumb a** :pfff: 

First of all, I am not an nvidia fan boy. I have an AMD PC. I opted for the GTX 560Ti only because it was bang for the buck....as for the websites, Guru 3D is a reputed website. It doesn't give you fake reviews.


With regards to the GTX 570, "jjb8675309" had both the 570 and the 6870 crossfire. Now he has the GTX 560Ti as well. So as he himself tells that there is not much difference between a stock 570 and an overclocked GTX 560Ti, then why do you bother to prove us wrong.


I am not an Nvidia fan boy. Its you, you are the AMD fanboy. I only think of what's bang for the buck for the OP.

instead of giving the right suggestions, you are misleading the OP. If you do not have the complete knowledge about it, then don't speak s**** :non: 



Instead of guiding people, if you wanna keep going on talking s****, then I don't mind either. I have all the time for it. :sol: 

and I repeat, the 6950 is not a bad card. If the OP wants to get it, then who's stopping him. either a GTX 560Ti or the 6950 1GB is enough for 1080p. the 2GB version is only required for much higher resolutions or multiple monitors.
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 3:20:51 AM

irfan88 said:
Hey.............watch your mouth.....dumb a** :pfff: 

First of all, I am not an nvidia fan boy. I have an AMD PC. I opted for the GTX 560Ti only because it was bang for the buck....as for the websites, Guru 3D is a reputed website. It doesn't give you fake reviews.


With regards to the GTX 570, "jjb8675309" had both the 570 and the 6870 crossfire. Now he has the GTX 560Ti as well. So as he himself tells that there is not much difference between a stock 570 and an overclocked GTX 560Ti, then why do you bother to prove us wrong.


I am not an Nvidia fan boy. Its you, you are the AMD fanboy. I only think of what's bang for the buck for the OP.

instead of giving the right suggestions, you are misleading the OP. If you do not have the complete knowledge about it, then don't speak s**** :non: 



Instead of guiding people, if you wanna keep going on talking s****, then I don't mind either. I have all the time for it. :sol: 

and I repeat, the 6950 is not a bad card. If the OP wants to get it, then who's stopping him. either a GTX 560Ti or the 6950 1GB is enough for 1080p. the 2GB version is only required for much higher resolutions or multiple monitors.


Thank you +1000
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 3:22:28 AM

the examples that amdboy left were gtx 560s anyways which are generally on par with the 6870... believe me the gtx 560ti is a beast and many models can achieve a high overclock namely the asus dc2 and the msi hawk among others such as the gigabyte soc which comes at 1 ghz out of the box
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 3:25:52 AM

HostileDonut said:
For future proof, the hd6950 does have 2gb RAM, and I have heard BFBC2 prefers AMD cards. Also, you can unlock into a hd6970 which would normally beat a GTX 560 ti OCed, but not a GTX 560 ti at 1ghz. You could OC the unlocked hd6950 too. Nvidia has CUDA, which helps in video editing and things like that, so you can't really go wrong! :D 


yeah either model is a decent choice for the OP just comes down to preference and price and what models are available, if its a reference model the 6950 is significantly louder especially when fans are ramped up, shoot my reference 6870s were louder even with a single card then the asus model I have of the gtx 560ti
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 3:27:25 AM

irfan88 said:
Hey.............watch your mouth.....dumb a** :pfff: 


Don't call me dumbass you little ****. I've had to suffer attack after attack in this and other threads from you and other nvidia fanboys and I'm not taking it from the likes of you.

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First of all, I am not an nvidia fan boy. I have an AMD PC. I opted for the GTX 560Ti only because it was bang for the buck....as for the websites, Guru 3D is a reputed website. It doesn't give you fake reviews.


What about the other 150 websites showing that the 6950 is superior. Using only one website as "proof" shows the limit of your intelligence and the major flaw in your argument.

If they had more evidence they'd use it. They don't. They are all just liars spinning the same review over and over every time when every other review tells the real story.

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With regards to the GTX 570, "jjb8675309" had both the 570 and the 6870 crossfire. Now he has the GTX 560Ti as well. So as he himself tells that there is not much difference between a stock 570 and an overclocked GTX 560Ti, then why do you bother to prove us wrong.


As far as I'm concerned he's talking out of his ass. Nobody would buy a 560 Ti if they already had a 570 so like I said before, shut it. Use your **** brains for once in your life.
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 3:30:30 AM

jjb8675309 said:
yeah either model is a decent choice for the OP just comes down to preference and price and what models are available, if its a reference model the 6950 is significantly louder especially when fans are ramped up, shoot my reference 6870s were louder even with a single card then the asus model I have of the gtx 560ti


You're full of it. Nobody would swap crossfire 6870's for a single gtx 560. Nobody with a brain anyway. Wait maybe you did after all. :whistle: 
a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2011 3:33:24 AM

@AMDface

dont feel like explaining the whole story but here it goes.

Had 6870 crossfire hated it,

sold got a pny gtx 570, it was a lemon, rma'ed, and the refurb was sold (given) to my cousin who was in need of a solid gpu. I went out and bought a asus gtx 560ti for a great price at frys electronics,- 210AR knowing that I could practically match the 570s performance with that I was more than happy with it at stock and so I bought the ti and an crucial m4 ssd, it was my choice sorry it upset you. I was interested in seeing what the ti could do with a 1ghz oc and im not dissapointed, what do you want from me? This is my hobby and I am lucky enough to have disposable income to support it so what is your gripe? I can swap my parts as many times as I want!

either model will be fitting for the op at 1080p so just let them decide, you've said your piece...

!