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Looking to build $4000 liquid cooled gaming rig - HELP

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October 18, 2011 3:18:41 AM

Hey everyone, im looking at building a 4-4.5k liquid cooled gaming rig, emphasis on the liquid. What cases are best for water cooling? (im looking at the thermaltake level 10's in particular, but anything's game) Also, in a balance between price and power, whats the highest preforming intel processor (for games obviously) for under a grand? Finally, ive been having difficulty finding a motherboard with 1155, 6 ram slots, and support for sli. any suggestions?
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October 18, 2011 6:44:27 AM

Choose what ever mouse, keyboard, sound system you want

Was not able to find a MoBo with 6 memory slots and 1155 (if you want just get bigger RAM)

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 - $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $254.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor - $314.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake CLW0211 Bigwater 760 Plus Dual Bay Drives Water Cooling - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F240GB3-BK 2.5" 240GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - $329.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card x 2 - $489.99 ($979.99)

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - $18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake TP-1000M 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER - $239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus VH238H Black 23" Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor x 2 - $179.99 (359.98)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $3113.87
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October 18, 2011 7:47:42 AM

Sorry, but TBH if you're budgeting $4.5k for a gaming rig, you are way beyond where the words "price/performance" can be included as a parts criteria lol.

Anyhow, Emelth didn't do too badly with his parts list, although putting a 23" 1902 resolution monitor on this rig is a bit like putting training wheels on a Maserati. The only practical reason to consider 2x580 is to go bigger than 1920, so take a look at a Dell 27" or 30" monitor with 2560 resolution. That will go a long way to eating up the rest of your budget, too.

If you weren't wedded to water cooling I'd also suggest you look at the Silverstone FT02-BW case to keep 2x580 running cool and therefore quiet, as well as allow max or near-max 24/7 OCing of the cpu using big air. I love the case design for air cooling - 3x200mm flitered, low speed intake fans = positive pressure dust free, quiet case. Not so good a design for water cooling IMO.

Finally, if you want to spend $240 on a PSU, I'd recommend this Seasonic 1000W Platinum:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OTOH, if I were looking to power 2x580 and stay near 1,000W, I'd probably go with this 950W PC Power & Cooling for $130:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 18, 2011 8:16:57 AM

I like smaller screens :D 

Edited: Or should I say I dont like too big of a screen...
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 18, 2011 8:30:42 AM

rig suggested by emelth is good.my recommendations-
for that much money and liquid cooling,get corsair obsidian 800d
HAF is for better air cooling.
you can easily fit 16 gb in your budget.(i know its a bit overkill,but use the money)
kingston hyper X is more reliable and faster than corsair force.get a 240gb or 256 gb drive.
get a coolermaster silent pro 1200w 80+ gold PSU.
get two evga hydrocopper version 580s(liquid cooled)
for liquid cooling build a custom cooling solution.
get this cpu block-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
for pump-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
for radiators-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
for fans x4-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
sorry arrange tubes yourself.
800d in the best liquid cooling case(IMO).
use one radiator for cooling your 2600k.
sickflow fans are one of the best 120mm fans out there.i am using them.they are quiet n cool.
use other one(radiator) for your 580s.
a single pump is good.
you will build a monster rig man.
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October 18, 2011 8:47:52 AM

I'm being attacked! (;-;)

^+1 to the 800D, I think its awesome as well.

I said in my first post to get more RAM as well since there was no 6 slot MoBo (that I liked or found to be beneficial to you since they werent 1155)
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October 18, 2011 10:02:21 AM

You should see if you want something like a multimonitor or a 3D.
Personally i use a 32 inch tv on full hd, and while the image is less crisp ovbiously, its far better looking.
For such an expensive build, i would DEFINITLY do a lot of investigation myself.
Best option if you can is to try the 3d (in a store maybe?) and see if you like it and does not give you headaches (this depends on the person).

Finding a multimonitor setup exposition is quite difficult, but for now i dont recomend it untill they make NON-Border screens.

But really, DO YOUR RESEARCH. That much money should not go to waste.
I will give you some pointers so you can get a general idea of what you could look for:

First would be Video and sound output. This features:
-A good screen/screens.
-Some good Speakers/sound card.

In the screen side, id recomend something like a 30 inch Dell monitor with over 1900x1200 resolution, in case you DONT want multimonitor, 3D or a HD tv.

In speakers, I would recomend Logitech Z-5500. There are better ones, but those seem really solid for me.
In Soundcard i would recomend An Asus Xonar (look the options so you know what one suits you best).

After that, once you know what sort of games you will be playing.
I dont know if its a good option to get the most expensive option (double 580) is the best one, as their productivity drops quite a lot.

The idea is to spend your extra cash once the technology advances considerably.

On the watercooling side, i advice you to get the best radiator and pump you can, since those can be used later for another build.

But really, do your research :D .
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October 18, 2011 4:16:54 PM

Emelth said:
Choose what ever mouse, keyboard, sound system you want

Was not able to find a MoBo with 6 memory slots and 1155 (if you want just get bigger RAM)


Yeah it's not possible to achieve 6 memory slots with 1155 since it uses dual channel RAM. If you wanted to go triple channel you'd have to go X58 and even then the only motherboard there that could do the trick is EVGA's Classified SR-2, but a system built around that monstrosity will cost you deeply (the dual Xeons alone are $1500 each).

What you could do is get a motherboard that has a maximum of 32GB RAM like the Gigabyte Z68-UD7 or the EVGA Z68 FTW and get 32GB (4 x 8GB) of 1.5V RAM and that would solve that problem, you also need to get 7 Ultimate instead of Home Premium.
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October 18, 2011 4:58:46 PM

1. 32 GB Ram on a gaming rig is pointless - max 16 GB its enaugh (still overkill for any games for the year 2011)
2. SSDs are a prio on a 4 k rig, but go with a more reliable one ( /point @ intel, Mushkin) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3. Storage HDDs are good to have aswell, but considering that you spend that much money go with 2 x 600 GB Velociraptors in raid 0. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Why such a cheap DVD burner? go with a Blu Ray disc burner. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Also, nobody was mentioning, but a gaming rig requires gaming peropherals (mouse, Keyboard imo).
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/prod...
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/prod...

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October 18, 2011 5:09:52 PM

If you're spending that much, wait a month for Sandy Bridge-E. 6 cores. quad channel RAM. WAY more PCI-E bandwidth.
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October 18, 2011 5:11:55 PM

And one more point, if SLI its a must then sure, 2 x GTX 580 its pro, but if SLI/Xfire its not a prio, i would suggest going GTX 590 or Radeon 6990. Theese cards OCd on water can perform briliantly, they are cheaper then 2 x GTX 580 and you can avoid the SLI issues (not that dual GPU cards dont have any in new titles...)
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October 18, 2011 5:18:56 PM

and you shouldn't have to wait long.......
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October 18, 2011 5:20:19 PM

crisan_tiberiu said:
1. 32 GB Ram on a gaming rig is pointless - max 16 GB its enaugh (still overkill for any games for the year 2011)
2. SSDs are a prio on a 4 k rig, but go with a more reliable one ( /point @ intel, Mushkin) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3. Storage HDDs are good to have aswell, but considering that you spend that much money go with 2 x 600 GB Velociraptors in raid 0. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4. Why such a cheap DVD burner? go with a Blu Ray disc burner. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5. Also, nobody was mentioning, but a gaming rig requires gaming peropherals (mouse, Keyboard imo).
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/prod...
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/prod...


32GB is definitely overkill. But on a $4K system why not max it out>

And yes I second the Blu-Ray burner - go with something like LG or the Plextor B940 but do not get a cheap Asus DVD burner - I owned one and it nearly exploded on me. Those are bad news.
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October 18, 2011 5:43:43 PM

g-unit1111 said:
32GB is definitely overkill. But on a $4K system why not max it out>.


Historically, you always tried to get by with 2 modules instead of 4 (or 3 instead of 6 for tri-channel). This is because with the extra load on the memory controller from having to manage four slots instead of two, there's a good chance ya may have had to reduce RAM speed or timings. Now I said "historically" because not so long ago we were OC'ing by speeding up the system bus (BCLK) instead of the CPU multiplier. I have not had enough OC experience on SB systems with 4 module simply because I have not as yet built a system with more than two slots filled..... we've done each one with the idea of "starting w/ 2 and adding more if needed.......none needed.
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October 18, 2011 5:49:14 PM

xigmatek elysium, fantastic case great value, loads of space for rads
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October 19, 2011 2:35:14 AM

Why doesnt anyone else just post a build so that the poster can see which build he likes more?
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April 24, 2013 2:38:21 PM

You can get a beast rig for $4000. Heres what i'd reccomend.

CPU: Intel i7 3930k $570
GPU: EVGA GTX Titan $1000
Motherboard: ASRock Xtreme 11 $600
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256gb x2 (Raid 0) $500
HDD: Western Digital Black Drive 3TB x2 (Raid 1) $480
RAM: Patriot Memory 32GB (4x8GB) Intel Extreme Masters 1600mhz $240
PSU: Corsair AX 1200i $340
Radiators: Black Ice GTX 120 and 240 $163
Pump: Swiftech MCP655 $120
CPU Block: XSPC Raystorm Acetal $63
GPU Block: EKWB EK-FC Titan XXL $160
Kill Coil: IandH Kill Coil $7
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm $160

For the coolant i'd go with any mayhems coolant and just pick any tubing, reservoir, and fittings you want (I recommend compression fittings). This is a great build that does push the limits on your $4.5k budget, but it will be amazing for overclocking and will be great for even the most difficult tasks such as surround or even rendering.
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April 29, 2013 7:42:03 AM

^ Threads a good two years old at this point.
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