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October 18, 2011 11:58:14 AM

Hello guys, I'm looking for help on constructing a new build (last one was in 2006). Primary use will be gaming, it's unlikely that I will SLI the cards or overclock, so my budget is approximately 1600 Canadian. I have already did some looking around and got some great advice from another forum, so I do have a computer I am looking at building.

  • Approximate Purchase Date: Late November, 2011
  • Budget Range: ~1600 CAD Before Rebates
  • System Usage: Gaming, internet
  • Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor
  • Preferred Websites: newegg.ca, ncix.com
  • Country of Origin: Canada
  • Parts Preferences: None
  • Overclocking: No
  • SLI or Crossfire: Nope
  • Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

    Here it is in it's current form:

    ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $209.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    Seasonic SS-850HT 850W ATX12V v2.31,EPS12V v2.92 80Plus Silver Certified, Active PFC Power Supply - OEM $129.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL $83.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $74.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

    OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

    ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $22.99
    http://asus%20drw-24b1st/BLK/B/AS%20Black%20SATA%2024X%20DVD%20Burner%20-%20Bulk%20-%20OEM

    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel $39.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

    Logitech Z623 200 w 2.1 Speaker System, THX-Certified $139.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

    Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI (1T2R) Up to 300Mbps download and 150 Mbps upload Data Rates/ WPA/WPA2
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

    Fractal Design Define R3 Silver ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT No PS Front USB
    http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=53538&vpn=DEFINE-R3-S...

    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    Having a slight issue with the video card.
    This is the card I have currently selected:
    EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    Here is another card by EVGA with seemingly better specs but cheaper?
    EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    Which one should I get?

    Also looking for any advice on anything I should change with the current system setup. I was looking at the i7 2600k instead of the i5, but many people persuaded me to get the i5 instead, partially because it does better with gaming. Any opinions?

    Thank you for any replies :) 
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    October 18, 2011 12:04:17 PM

    I would go with http://www.directcanada.com/

    Free shipping. Newegg shipping is crazy.

    No plans with OC or SLI?

    Get a cheap Z68 motherboard from Asrock, Gigabye.
    http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD4863&v...

    Go with the i5-2500 without the K.
    http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD4322&v...

    Your PSU is overkill. A good 650w can easily power it especially with no OC and SLI.
    http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=1037184382G&v...

    You don't need a cooler since you wont be overclocking.
    October 18, 2011 12:13:07 PM

    I would probably consider this motherboard: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
    Since it will support PCI-e 3.0 if you ever put an ivy bridge chip on it (whenever those are out..)

    The second graphic card is slightly overclocked. Since its cheaper you might aswell get it, but its only a 3% overclock, so don't expect it to matter much.

    It looks like a good build, that case is a great piece for making things quiet.
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    October 18, 2011 2:02:08 PM

    High quality case with USB III in front panel

    LIAN LI Lancool PC-K57 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    A solid 600-650W PSU can hold any single card plus this one is modular for maximum airflow in your case

    SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    If you won't overclock get the i5 2500

    Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    Asrock released a great motherboard for those that they are not interested in SLI or Crossfire. It comes with high quality components, Z68 chipset, it supports PCI-E 3.0 and Ivy Bridge and it comes at a great price!

    ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
    http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Pro3%...

    An 8GB kit of RAM @ 1.5V

    Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

    I suggest getting a GTX 570 / HD 6970 because when newer GPUs come out you can easily sell your CPU and GPU and get Ivy Bridge and PCI-E 3.0 GPU (the next one comes with lifetime warranty so it's even better for sale)

    XFX HD-697A-CNFC Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

    Thanks to Intel's Smart Cache you don't have to pay a fortune for your SSD. All you have to do is get a high quality SSD <64GB and enable Smart Cache. You earn both the perfomance of a SSD and the capacity of your normal HDD. Great right? ;) 

    Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

    The top seller HDD

    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

    And optical

    SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model SH-222AL/BSBE LightScribe Support - OEM
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...


    SUM ~ 1200$ and you can keep the rest for future upgrades ;) 





    October 19, 2011 12:57:47 AM

    I'm probably more confused now than when I first posted :lol: 

    I'll probably need more room on the SSD, so 40 GB probably won't cut it for me. I also like my currently selected case, so that won't be changed either I think. That Antec Earthwatts 650W looks fine, so I'll swap mine out for it. Why should I switch the ram (other than price)? Is there much of a performance difference?

    As for the Mobo, you guys suggested ASRock, but I'm not sure which version to get. The one linked by michxymi seems good, but I'm unsure about it. I have read a lot of positive reviews of my current mobo selected, but I'm just trying to avoid bottlenecking the system. I'll get that ASRock.

    Thanks again, very helpful
    October 19, 2011 6:27:02 AM

    Kully said:
    I'm probably more confused now than when I first posted :lol: 

    I'll probably need more room on the SSD, so 40 GB probably won't cut it for me. I also like my currently selected case, so that won't be changed either I think. That Antec Earthwatts 650W looks fine, so I'll swap mine out for it. Why should I switch the ram (other than price)? Is there much of a performance difference?

    As for the Mobo, you guys suggested ASRock, but I'm not sure which version to get. The one linked by michxymi seems good, but I'm unsure about it. I have read a lot of positive reviews of my current mobo selected, but I'm just trying to avoid bottlenecking the system. I'll get that ASRock.

    Thanks again, very helpful


    Motherboards don't bottleneck a system.
    October 19, 2011 9:50:50 AM

    Kully said:
    I'm probably more confused now than when I first posted :lol: 

    I'll probably need more room on the SSD, so 40 GB probably won't cut it for me. I also like my currently selected case, so that won't be changed either I think. That Antec Earthwatts 650W looks fine, so I'll swap mine out for it. Why should I switch the ram (other than price)? Is there much of a performance difference?

    As for the Mobo, you guys suggested ASRock, but I'm not sure which version to get. The one linked by michxymi seems good, but I'm unsure about it. I have read a lot of positive reviews of my current mobo selected, but I'm just trying to avoid bottlenecking the system. I'll get that ASRock.

    Thanks again, very helpful


    I told you that with Z68 chipset you don't need a big SSD...read Smart Cache feautures at google...The PSU I linked was by Seasonic (= simply the best). Finally, you won't see any perfomance difference with higher speed RAM....so I choose those because they were cheap, high quality and match the black theme of the motherboard :D  The motherboard will never bottleneck the system...If you will never Crossfire or SLI get Z68 PRO3 Gen3, If you want to have the option get Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 as simple as that ;) 
    October 19, 2011 12:27:29 PM

    Thanks, I ended up switching the power supply to the one michxymi posted about before seeing your post. I ended up also selecting the Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 to keep my options open in the future.

    Guess I was a little ignorant on that bottlenecking thing :) . Thanks for the education.

    I think I'm about done now, thanks a lot everyone. Made some changes and it looks like I'm ready to go :) 
    !