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October 20, 2011 1:12:09 PM

Hello THW,

So I'm hoping to build my first PC. I will not be purchasing the components all at once, I'll be purchasing/installing them one at a time. For this reason, I wish for each component to be at a maximum 150-175 USD (I don't really care about rebates, but they help). As for usage, I will use it for moderate gaming, programming/smallscale software engineering/HD&Blu-Ray multimedia, basically the works (although no CAD ;) . I'm going to be buying brand new parts the whole way. I much prefer to shop at newegg.com, and I live in the SW US. I know I wanna build an AMD system for now, and I want to build it on the Phenom II x4 965 BE. I will not now nor ever overclock, but I definitely want solid parts that will take care of future scalibility/upgrades. I want the capabilities for Crossfire, although at first I plan on getting a single Radeon HD 6970.

Without further ado, here's my idea of what I want:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ZALMAN CNPS9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX ATX Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual TV Tuner / Encoder 1229 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HIS IceQ X Turbo H679QNT1G2M Radeon HD 6790 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Xonar DS 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Audio Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
KINGWIN 750W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I'm willing to really splurge on a nice, solid PSU)
(x2) LITE-ON SATA Blu-ray Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(x2 until i can get:
Corsair Force Series 3 2.5" 90GB SATA III Internal SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

Of course, this is just the tower. But I definitely want to use USB 3.0, SATA III, and basically all the fastest buses for each component. I want no bottlenecks.

So... advice? Suggestions? Feedback?

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October 20, 2011 1:14:22 PM

I forgot to mention that the reason I wanna throw so much RAM in there is because basically all my USB ports are gonna be plugged all the time. I have a lot of different peripherals I wanna have attached.
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October 20, 2011 3:19:58 PM

Ok, Kingwin is really bad and wil blow up on you. Here's an extremely solid PSU for much less. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Also, Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is cheap AND better cooling. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Here's a mobo with true AM3+ compatability and has automatic overclock. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... If you're not going to overclock, there's really no NEED for an aftermarket CPU cooler. And, for the same price, you can get a much better GPU, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 20, 2011 3:21:29 PM

Pricer DOES NOT always mean better.
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October 20, 2011 3:24:28 PM

Get the AMD Phenom II x4 955, A 100Mhz is not worth the extra 30 bucks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get this PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One of the best PSU makers.

Get this hard drive, it's cheaper and one of the best.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You might want to get a cheaper motherboard. That motherboard is pretty crazy. I'd suggest a good AM3+ mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can upgrade the CPU when the need arises.

You might want this 6 core CPU but you have to buy the AM3+ motherboard I recommended.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You don't need a soundcard. Every motherboard has one onboard. It's pretty good.
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October 20, 2011 3:27:51 PM

Yeah. Phenom ii x4 955 shold be used to save money. Or Zosma 960t is a option too. Unlockable to 6 cores.
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October 20, 2011 5:50:59 PM

samuelspark said:
Ok, Kingwin is really bad and wil blow up on you. Here's an extremely solid PSU for much less. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Also, Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is cheap AND better cooling. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Here's a mobo with true AM3+ compatability and has automatic overclock. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... If you're not going to overclock, there's really no NEED for an aftermarket CPU cooler. And, for the same price, you can get a much better GPU, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


well see the reason i chose this psu was because of the 80 plus platinum cert. i was hoping to keep that, its something im a bit ocd about, lol.
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October 20, 2011 5:58:41 PM

cutebeans said:
Get the AMD Phenom II x4 955, A 100Mhz is not worth the extra 30 bucks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get this PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One of the best PSU makers.

Get this hard drive, it's cheaper and one of the best.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You might want to get a cheaper motherboard. That motherboard is pretty crazy. I'd suggest a good AM3+ mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can upgrade the CPU when the need arises.

You might want this 6 core CPU but you have to buy the AM3+ motherboard I recommended.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You don't need a soundcard. Every motherboard has one onboard. It's pretty good.


well, im a bit of an audiophile, so thank you for the advice, but im not gonna give that one up.
and i really wanted to keep SATA III, though. it will be faster than SATA II, right?

And thank you too for the mobo advice (and Samuel). I didnt even know AM3+ was coming out so soon.
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October 20, 2011 6:50:37 PM

The platinum rating refers to how much the PSU sucks up the power from the outlet. Platinum is the very best energy saving PSU, but there is virtually no difference between a bronze and platinum rating and you will only save maybe a dollar or two a year. I suggest you get the PSU I recommended you and the mobo as that is AM3+ too and has automatic overclocking and unlocking feature which is nice.
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October 20, 2011 7:44:41 PM

oh ok. i can do that then, i think. now what are your thoughts on my SSD/HDD combination? I would have the SSD to boot from and the HDD for the rest of my data. Until i could afford this SSD or a larger one, I would stick with the Caviar Black (or maybe even a VelociRaptor). What are your thoughts on that?
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October 20, 2011 7:50:53 PM

and you would definitely suggest corsair then? for the PSU?
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October 20, 2011 8:25:25 PM

Yup Corsair is very good. I only wish I could afford it on my budget build. And that SSD/HDD combo is nice. No problems.
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October 20, 2011 8:27:34 PM

sweet, alrighty then.
well thank you for all your help, I'll post my new config/ideas when i take your advice into account.
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October 20, 2011 8:31:39 PM

Best answer selected by jg3220.
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October 20, 2011 8:57:03 PM

Sorry, saw this and had to make a correction. Any time you start making generalizations about a PSU based on brand you are asking for trouble. Kingwin does not make PSUs, and just like Corsair and Antec they buy PSUs from actual manufacturers, some of which are better than others. Not every Corsair PSU is very high quality, and not every Kingwin PSU is junk.

The entire Kingwin Lazer Platinum series is made by Superflower. Superflower is perhaps the ONLY PSU maker that can compete with Seasonic when it comes to very high quality PSUs. Note that Seasonic makes all the best Corsair PSUs.

While the 750W is new and not yet reviewed, the 550W version has been reviewed and the only thing that anyone could possibly find wrong with it is the price:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

The PSUs that were recommended to you are all better deals though, so no worries. $200 is a bit much for the PSU... although to be clear it's one of the very best, higher quality than the Corsair HX750 and probably slightly better than a Corsair AX750.
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