Motherboard CPU compatibility

[Metal Wing]

I have a Gateway LX6200-01 computer with the following motherboard: http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006272R/4006272Rmv.shtml

My friend mailed me his working CPU - AMD Phenom II x6 1100T

Are they compatible? I actually already got the CPU and tried it - but I get the whole infamous black screen no beep issue. I am wondering if the CPU just isn't compatible, before I do something drastic like flash BIOS.

Thank You

 

[socialfox]

I believe they are not compatible. It seems that board supports Phenoms up until 95 watts, the 1100t uses 125 watts.

This is where I verified:
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006272R/4006272Rmvr21.shtml

 

[Metal Wing]

Best answer selected by Metal Wing.

 

[Metal Wing]

I believe they are not compatible. It seems that board supports Phenoms up until 95 watts, the 1100t uses 125 watts.

This is where I verified:
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006272R/4006272Rmvr21.shtml

You are absolutely right! Just as I posted my question, I found http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913 which is the x6 CPU I got and yes, it is a 125W vs my motherboards 95W it seems.

I guess it is time for a new motherboard... Do you think this http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2177924&CatId=5530 would be a fair replacement? I just really need something cheap that can match my current motherboard + support the AM3 CPU that I got. Something from tigerdirect.ca so I could just pick it up tomorrow and make it work. The fact that it only has 2 DDR3 slots concerns me though because I currently have 4x2GB DDR2 which gives me 8GB total. With that motherboard I'll be down to 2x2 4GB unless I dish out $50 on 8GB DDR3 stick. If you think you know of a fairly cheap motherboard that fits my specifications that would be great!

Thank You

 

[socialfox]

That motherboard as well unfortunately supports only 95 watt processors as well.
As for where I got that information is here:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=536#cpu

They claim 'Recommended" but I would say 95 watts should be the max for that board. In addition, I do not like Biostar boards as some are a hit and some are a strike (meaning some are good some are bad, I have bought a few Biostar boards, and 2 of them died within 2 months, and another one which is my oldest one is still running after 5-6 years)

I myself am running this great budget board with an overclocked Phenom II X4 955 Black edition which is also 125 watts.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD2518&vpn=M5A78L-M%20LX%20PLUS&manfuacture=ASUS

You should notice that the board I use only utilizes DDR3 ram, I believe DDR2 gives a small performance impact to the Phenom (in a negative way) and that DDR3 will run better with the Phenom. If you are buying from Tigerdirect.ca make sure the item is available in stock rather than being an online exclusive only. Also since I too live in Canada I will say Canada Computer offers real good deals on everything.

Anyways here's the board I use found on tigerdirect:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1418809&CatId=7245

and if you are willing to upgrade to DDR3, then here is a real sweet deal!
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3473444&CatId=4534

Edit: For the record I bought my motherboard from this store
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_335&item_id=042789

 

[Metal Wing]

That motherboard as well unfortunately supports only 95 watt processors as well.
As for where I got that information is here:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=536#cpu

They claim 'Recommended" but I would say 95 watts should be the max for that board. In addition, I do not like Biostar boards as some are a hit and some are a strike (meaning some are good some are bad, I have bought 3 Biostar boards, and 2 of them died within 2 months, and another one which is my oldest one is still running after 5-6 years)

I myself am running this great budget board with an overclocked Phenom II X4 955 Black edition which is also 125 watts.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD2518&vpn=M5A78L-M%20LX%20PLUS&manfuacture=ASUS

You should notice that the board I use only utilizes DDR3 ram, I believe DDR2 gives a small performance impact to the Phenom (in a negative way) and that DDR3 will run better with the Phenom. If you are buying from Tigerdirect.ca make sure the item is available in stock rather than being an online exclusive only. Also since I too live in Canada I will say Canada Computer offers real good deals on everything.

Anyways here's the board I use found on tigerdirect:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1418809&CatId=7245

and if you are willing to upgrade to DDR3, then here is a real sweet deal!
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3473444&CatId=4534

Edit: For the record I bought my motherboard from this store
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_335&item_id=042789

Wow, thank you! They seem like quite great deals! And I can't believe I forgot about Canada Computers - they are even twice as close to my home as TigerDirect, heh. I assume this http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_335&item_id=042789 is the identical motherboard that you linked from TigerDirect?

Also, do you know whether it will fit in the case of my Gateway LX6200-01 ? Last time I bought a new motherboard, I had to invest in a new case.

This http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006272R/4006272Rsp2.shtml lists RS780 form factor as 244 mm × 244 mm so I assume the ASUS ( 24.4 cm x 20.3 cm ) should fit? Although I am wondering about the missing 4cm, heh.

Edit: I see you did an edit with a link to the motherboard Also will http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_611&item_id=050741 be better price for RAM since having a single 8gb stick now will let me get another one later when the budget allows for a total of 16gb?

 

[socialfox]

Wow, thank you! They seem like quite great deals! And I can't believe I forgot about Canada Computers - they are even twice as close to my home as TigerDirect, heh. I assume this http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_335&item_id=042789 is the identical motherboard that you linked from TigerDirect?

Also, do you know whether it will fit in the case of my Gateway LX6200-01 ? Last time I bought a new motherboard, I had to invest in a new case.

This http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/Shared/4006272R/4006272Rsp2.shtml lists RS780 form factor as 244 mm × 244 mm so I assume the ASUS ( 24.4 cm x 20.3 cm ) should fit? Although I am wondering about the missing 4cm, heh.

Hahaha
I was in the same boat as you except I used to go to Tigerdirect and pay more and travel long distances when a Canada computer was only 15 minutes away from my home by walking! I realized that when I was wandering around my new neighborhood one day out of boredom :lol:

Anyways remove your motherboard and see if the motherboard tray uses standoffs or rises in certain spots that align itself with the stock motherboard. If it uses standoffs you should be able to remove a standoff which should compensate for the shorter distance of the new motherboard. If it does align with that specific motherboard then you should see if you can remove the tray and put standoffs in its place. If it cannot be moved then it looks like that case was designed for that specific stock/standard motherboard.

 

[Metal Wing]

Hahaha
I was in the same boat as you except I used to go to Tigerdirect and pay more and travel long distances when a Canada computer was only 15 minutes away from my home by walking! I realized that when I was wandering around my new neighborhood one day out of boredom :lol:

Anyways remove your motherboard and see if the motherboard tray uses standoffs or rises in certain spots that align itself with the stock motherboard. If it uses standoffs you should be able to remove a standoff which should compensate for the shorter distance of the new motherboard. If it does align with that specific motherboard then you should see if you can remove the tray and put standoffs in its place. If it cannot be moved then it looks like that case was designed for that specific stock/standard motherboard.

Haha, don't hate, but not going to lie - I did not understand a single word of that! Does it come with pictures? Heh.

10 minutes later:

Google images kind of gives me an idea, but I'll probably understand more when I actually take my motherboard out (which I won't do, since I am typing this post on the same PC we are talking about). Worst case scenario I'll just have to look for 244x244 motherboard.

 

[socialfox]

Don't worry about it, I'm not hating

This is the tray I was telling you about that is designed for a specific board:
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/PC%20Stuff/The%20Sled%20Tech%20Bench/MotherboardTray-2.jpg

This here is the standoff type for motherboards:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/cases/Antec_MicroFusion_350/antec_micro_fusion_350_motherboard_standoff.jpg

 

[Metal Wing]

I don't know if anyone will reply in time, since I am going to buy a motherboard very soon (like an hour or so), but is this motherboard - http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_335&item_id=052729 better than the http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_335&item_id=042789 ?

As a reminder - I am planning to put http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913 in it!

Edit: I am starting to think that GIGABYTE is better than ASUS because when I look at the list of supported CPUs on ASUS motherboard here http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=24&m=M5A78L-M%20LX&os=&hashedid=5YkHeMJXc3aijWxY - I don't see the Phenom II X6 1100T

The GIGABYTE CPU list; however, shows it - http://ca.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4305

 

[socialfox]

Well they are both identical boards, same chipset, same onboard video card. The only difference is the Gigabyte board has usb 3.0

In addition you were viewing the M5A78L-M board not the M5A78L-M LX PLUS.
This here is the cpu support list:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=24&m=M5A78L-M%20LX%20PLUS&os=&hashedid=IZxHVUuVo8OWSDbz

Anyways I know I'm late :lol: (very late) but no harm done getting the Gigabyte board.

 

[Metal Wing]

Well they are both identical boards, same chipset, same onboard video card. The only difference is the Gigabyte board has usb 3.0

In addition you were viewing the M5A78L-M board not the M5A78L-M LX PLUS.
This here is the cpu support list:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=24&m=M5A78L-M%20LX%20PLUS&os=&hashedid=IZxHVUuVo8OWSDbz

Anyways I know I'm late :lol: (very late) but no harm done getting the Gigabyte board.

Well, you are a tad too late, haha - I got the Asus board (I asked for more input around and at least 10 people came back saying Asus is what they'd pick)

So I am posting this from my newly upgraded machine (Although considering I replaced motherboard, CPU, RAM and soundcard it's basically a new PC...)

Thank You for your help I got the Mobo from Canada Computers for $59.99 + $7 2 year direct replacement warranty. Also grabbed this http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_611&item_id=032949

You have been most helpful!

 

[socialfox]

Sweet, glad you went with the Asus board, If I did not mention it above, I run the same board and it is very good!
Anyways if you ever need any other help regarding this thread or just don't have time for a thread or need an opinion then don't hesitate to send a PM to me, I will gladly assist you.

- Socialfox