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October 22, 2011 1:34:21 AM

YO!!! I was thinking of building a system similar to the amd one on this site (with some slight modifications) can someone confirm if this hardware is compatible (im also trying to buy it completely off new-egg just so everything comes from one source)

for the processor the
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

for the fan
Scythe SCMG-3000 120mm Heat Pipe CPU Cooler

the motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

the memory
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9Bthe

hardrive
Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

dvd/cd drive
ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

all stuffed into the
AZZA Hurrican 2000 CSAZ-2000 Black SECC Japanese Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

(i already bought a 700 wat power supply and a nice graphics card) so those are covered

if there are parts anyone would recommend just spit em out :p 


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October 22, 2011 1:43:13 AM

While all of the above should work fine, I would recommend a Gigabyte AM3+ mobo so that you can upgrade to a BD based Zambezi or possibly Piledriver based CPU in the future. You can't do that with an AM3 mobo. The AM3+ mobo will run your 1100T just fine for now and only costs a few dollars more.
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October 22, 2011 8:28:06 AM

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October 22, 2011 4:26:43 PM

I would like to confirm that the 700W PSU you have is high quality, so could you post the model name?

I agree about trying to get an AM3+ motherboard. I like the look of this one:
Asrock 870 Extreme3 R2.0 $92 ($7.87 shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Choose a different one if you need motherboard display outputs/video.

I personally wouldn't want to use a Green drive for a boot drive, as it is already the slowest part of a system, so going any slower than necessary would not be a wise move IMO.
Now is not a particularly good time to buy HDDs anyway because of the flooding in Thailand. So my advice is to just get something to service your immediate needs and then when prices go down a bit get a high capacity HDD then.

Unfortunately you are likely to have compatibility problems with Corsair Vengeance and the Scythe Mugen 3. The Mugen 3 is very likely to overhang the first DIMM slot on the motherboard. And the Vengeance are so tall that it would interfere with the fan on the cooler if a set was to be installed in the first DIMM slot closest to the CPU socket.
If you know that you will never need to use that slot then you could go ahead.
Otherwise I would suggest either
a) choosing a different heatsink which doesn't overhand any DIMM slots
b) choosing a different set of RAM, without tall heatspreaders
c) do both

Thermalright is a particularly good manufacturer for heatsinks which are narrow, but there aren't many available on newegg.

There aren't any/many sets of 1866MHz memory on newegg without tall heatspreaders. However 1866MHz memory doesn't usually provide any tangible/worthwhile performance improvement over 1600MHz - obviously if you know your workload does appreciate faster RAM then go ahead and try and find as fast a set as possible without tall heatspreaders. Maybe this has changed with Bulldozer or will change with future Bulldozer CPUs, but you have the immediate problem of trying to get RAM that will work with the Mugen 3.

Personally I would suggest either of these:
CORSAIR Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CAS9 1.5V CML8GX3M2A1600C9B $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CAS9 1.35V CML8GX3M2A1600C9W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With the especially low voltage you might be able to get this to run at 1866MHz.
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October 22, 2011 4:51:22 PM

just for more info the power supply i bought was a Corsair GS700 gaming series power supply

and the graphics card was the NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560Ti 1gb gddr5 pci express 2.0 graphics card (both of these i picked up at best buy)

...will they work?
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October 22, 2011 5:02:10 PM

Yes they will work.
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October 22, 2011 5:04:48 PM

Silvune said:
I would like to confirm that the 700W PSU you have is high quality, so could you post the model name?

I agree about trying to get an AM3+ motherboard. I like the look of this one:
Asrock 870 Extreme3 R2.0 $92 ($7.87 shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Choose a different one if you need motherboard display outputs/video.

I personally wouldn't want to use a Green drive for a boot drive, as it is already the slowest part of a system, so going any slower than necessary would not be a wise move IMO.
Now is not a particularly good time to buy HDDs anyway because of the flooding in Thailand. So my advice is to just get something to service your immediate needs and then when prices go down a bit get a high capacity HDD then.

Unfortunately you are likely to have compatibility problems with Corsair Vengeance and the Scythe Mugen 3. The Mugen 3 is very likely to overhang the first DIMM slot on the motherboard. And the Vengeance are so tall that it would interfere with the fan on the cooler if a set was to be installed in the first DIMM slot closest to the CPU socket.
If you know that you will never need to use that slot then you could go ahead.
Otherwise I would suggest either
a) choosing a different heatsink which doesn't overhand any DIMM slots
b) choosing a different set of RAM, without tall heatspreaders
c) do both

Thermalright is a particularly good manufacturer for heatsinks which are narrow, but there aren't many available on newegg.

There aren't any/many sets of 1866MHz memory on newegg without tall heatspreaders. However 1866MHz memory doesn't usually provide any tangible/worthwhile performance improvement over 1600MHz - obviously if you know your workload does appreciate faster RAM then go ahead and try and find as fast a set as possible without tall heatspreaders. Maybe this has changed with Bulldozer or will change with future Bulldozer CPUs, but you have the immediate problem of trying to get RAM that will work with the Mugen 3.

Personally I would suggest either of these:
CORSAIR Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CAS9 1.5V CML8GX3M2A1600C9B $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CAS9 1.35V CML8GX3M2A1600C9W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With the especially low voltage you might be able to get this to run at 1866MHz.



So i guess the ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED is completely out of the question XD... but is their specific heatsink fan that you would recommend

and are there any fast 1 or 2 TB drives that are fast O.o?

also thx about the memory :) 
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October 22, 2011 10:35:39 PM

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM $70 ($7 shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These drives are usually at least $10 cheaper. The price increase on WD drives seems to be higher.
The 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green spins at 5900RPM, so it is faster than a lot of other green drives which typically spin at 5400RPM. This drive would be perfectly fine as a storage drive, but for a boot drive I think it is still better to use a 7200RPM drive.

Apparently the Zalman CNPS9900MAX doesn't interfere with RAM slots; it is quite narrow at 94mm, however it doesn't perform that well considering its price.
I think if you go for a set of RAM without tall heatspreaders then there's no need to choose another heatsink.
However if you're willing to pay $70 for a heatsink then I would consider this:
NZXT Havik 140 $60 ($10 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Which is ~90mm deep with one fan installed and 120mm with both.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/nzxt-havik140
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/nzxt-h...

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus/Evo are popular budget choices which are only 77mm deep with one fan installed.
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October 23, 2011 12:33:32 AM

wow thanks man ill start ordering the parts and call back once ive built it

thanks again :) 
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December 6, 2011 7:30:20 PM

Whoops sry i hadnt repoted back in a while :p 

The computer runs great tested crysis on ultra settings works great

bought skyrim 2 days after it came out cranked it up ran completely smooth

the only problem i encountered was the first few times of starting it up it had a habit of locking up if you try to move 2 files at once (thought that was kinda funny :)  ) i think it had to do with all the wallpaper switching O.o

anyway getting BF3 for christmas ill say if that runs great or not

verdict for now 5/5 and as a bonus easy to put together ... even if a bit expensive :) 

PS!!!

i could mention i didnt install the extra heat sink cause im a noob and didnt realize CPU's came with a stock fan XD

i highly recomend for anyone who has built a pc yet
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January 17, 2012 3:06:45 PM

yup it plays BF3 flawless

now time two save up for 2 more monitors and the 2nd graphics card :p 
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