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P9x79 deluxe VGA_LED Red, no video on POST

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November 22, 2012 9:58:29 PM

System:

Asus P9X79
Intel i7-3820 CPU + Hyper 212 EVO
Corsair TX750M PS
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 (2X4) (QVL - originally 8X4 - left 2x4 for diagnostics)
Sapphire HD7870 OC single (also tried instead Asus HD7770 Direct CU and different slots
- the same effect)
Intel SSD 330 120 Gb (however also tried to disconnect all drives - no RAID - same effect)
Plextor PX-B940SA BD drive.
Lian Li case.

Problem:
On POST, 1 long, 4 short beeps.
CPU, RAM, Boot device LEDs briefly turn ON and OFF (I assume that all these are OK).
However, VGA_LED turns on and stays ON indicating a problem. No Video.
The final Q-Code is "AE".

Any clue?

P.S. I've built more then a dozen PCs - never had any problems.
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November 23, 2012 8:44:42 AM

Hi, The 3820 requires the 0906 BIOS version. Use the Flashback for updating the BIOS. If not sure how, post back.
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November 23, 2012 10:48:22 AM

Thanks alexoiu.
I've already "flashedback" and "CAP-converted" BIOS to the latest 3009 - it didn't
change anything.
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November 23, 2012 11:17:38 AM

I would try again.
Have you used the Flashback USB port -near the Flashback button ?
The USB stick has to be FAT formatted.
Press the buitton for 3 seconds with the power supply on (no need for starting the board).
What beeps do you get with only CPU and CPU fan installed?
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November 23, 2012 12:37:48 PM

alexoiu said:
I would try again.
Have you used the Flashback USB port -near the Flashback button ?
The USB stick has to be FAT formatted.
Press the buitton for 3 seconds with the power supply on (no need for starting the board).
What beeps do you get with only CPU and CPU fan installed?


Thank you again.
Yes, I'm not a novice in BIOS flashing.
Yes, I exactly followed instructions as in:
ASUS/BIOSConvertdetail.aspx.htm
ASUS/BIOSFlashdetail.aspx.htm
Yes, I formatted USB FAT32.
I could not see any fault in flashing behavior - it took about 2-3 min and behaved as expected.
The fact that the POST behavior didn't change after flashing makes me believe
that the problem has nothing to do with BIOS.
Since out of 4 diagnostic red LEDs three (CPU, RAM, BootDevice) go ON and OFF on Power ON,
but the VGA_LED goes ON and stays ON indicates a problem with video.
Also, the problem is not related to Video Card (two different cards, different slots).
There is no video on board.
Is the mobo at fault?
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November 23, 2012 12:56:06 PM

Just wanted to make sure. However, do you get one long, two short beeps with only CPU and CPU fan installed?
The AE code is related to BIOS and the red VGA led could point to a CPU socket bent pins issue (since the GPU does work). The red VGA is sometimes related also to a not supported CPU.
That's why I insisted about the BIOS update procedures.
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November 26, 2012 12:38:47 AM

alexoiu said:
Just wanted to make sure. However, do you get one long, two short beeps with only CPU and CPU fan installed?
The AE code is related to BIOS and the red VGA led could point to a CPU socket bent pins issue (since the GPU does work). The red VGA is sometimes related also to a not supported CPU.
That's why I insisted about the BIOS update procedures.

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November 26, 2012 12:45:38 AM

Hello Alexoiu, again. I think my reply didn't go though.
I was away 4 a couple of days and when back checked what you suggested.
Yes, with only CPU connected I get 1 long and 2 short beeps repeatedly with Q-Code 65. I hope these clues are sufficient to at least narrow down the problem.
Many thanks in advance.
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November 26, 2012 4:31:53 AM

Hi, Now insert only one RAM stick. You should get one long three short beeps.
Then install the GPU. Make sure it is correctly inserted and the PCIe power cable connected. If still red VGA then I would check the socket for bent pins.
Test the board outside the case, to rule out a shorting.
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November 26, 2012 10:45:43 AM

alexoiu said:
Hi, Now insert only one RAM stick. You should get one long three short beeps.
Then install the GPU. Make sure it is correctly inserted and the PCIe power cable connected. If still red VGA then I would check the socket for bent pins.
Test the board outside the case, to rule out a shorting.


Thank you Alexoiu.
With one RAM stick, I get 1 long and 4 short beeps followed by a squeak, after which the Boot_Device LED goes off. VGA_LED is the only one that stays lit.
I expect it will be the same with adding the GPU, and it's back to square one. I borrowed a simple Asus HD5770 Direct CU that does not need a PCIe power.
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November 26, 2012 6:00:56 PM

It might be a BIOS issue. I would RMA the board.
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November 26, 2012 11:51:45 PM

alexoiu said:
It might be a BIOS issue. I would RMA the board.


Thanks again.
I've emailed an RMA request to Asus.
Pity, never had a problem with Asus mobos in the past - used about 8 or more of them. I guess, I've been spoiled.
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December 16, 2012 3:14:16 PM

Back to square one! Finally got the RMA mobo from Asus.
I was surprised with BIOS version 0802 (2011.11.17) even older than my original 0902. I decided to give it a try and if OK to flash to latest 3203 (2012.12.07).
No luck! The behaviour was the same - 1 short and 4 long.
The only difference was Q-code 00 (not used!).
You mentioned that the 3820 in not compatible with BIOS below 09.
My dilemma is now to try the flash or RMA. I'd appreciate very much your advice.
I was foolish of me not to try bread-boarding before putting it all together, but I trusted Asus and assumed that they tested the mobo before shipping it.
The configuration used is:
Asus P9X79 deluxe BIOS 0802
Corsair TX750M PS
Intel 3820
Asus 5770 Derect CU new
Corsair 1 stick CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
Thanks again.
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December 16, 2012 3:50:55 PM

Yes, try flashing the BIOS. Follow the steps ( http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/USB_BIOS_Flashback_GUIDE/ ):
-format the USB stick - FAT or FAT 32.
-download, unzip the BIOS 0906 file
-save it on the USB stick
-make sure that the power supply is ON (don't press the case power button)
-insert the stick in the Flashback USB port - check the manual for identifying the right port
-press the Flashback button for 3 seconds
I can't access the ASUS page at the moment. If still not working, an option would be buying a BIOS chip from ASUS eStore (if in US) or ebay - about 20$ and replace the board's one.
But the Flashback should work.
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December 16, 2012 4:12:25 PM

Thank you alexoiu for reply.
It's not a problem with flashing, but how will Asus react in case I still have to RMA.
And also why not a more recent BIOS?
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December 16, 2012 4:22:10 PM

You've tried it last time without success, that's why I think it's safer to firstly flash the BIOS version that does support the CPU. For 0906, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you don't need to run the converter so try firstly without converting the BIOS file.

If flashing doesn't work, instead of RMA-ing, I suggest replacing the BIOS chip. Otherwise, you might get again a board that doesn't support the CPU. Although, being aware of the issue, ASUS should have sent a board with a BIOS flashed with the proper version.
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December 16, 2012 4:31:15 PM

Seems that you are betting on the BIOS. What if it's something else?
OK, I'm going to try.
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December 16, 2012 4:42:59 PM

Yes, try it and then we'll see.
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December 16, 2012 5:44:24 PM

Bad news! Flash is not working. When I press and hold the flash button, I see just a single flash on the button and on the 4 G Lexar - quite different from flashing on my
original RMAed mobo - it was flashing continuously for more than a minute.
Just to make sure, I re-formatted the Lexar, re-downloaded the BIOS, re-unzipped it,
re-named it, re-copied it to the Lexar. No change.
The way I see it, it's a faulty Flash circuitry or faulty BIOS. Is this to be the RMA replacement?
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December 16, 2012 5:47:34 PM

Have you inserted the USB stick in the USB port next to the Flashack button? What's the name of the BIOS file?
Is the board P9X79 deluxe or P9X79?
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December 16, 2012 6:23:27 PM

Yes, the board is P9X79 DELUXE; the BIOS FILE is P9X79-DELUXE-ASUS-0906.ZIP;
the UNZIPPED file is P9X79-DELUXE-ASUS-0906.ROM and the FLASH file is P9X79D.ROM.
Yes, I've inserted the USB stick in the right place and pressed the right button for the right amount of time with the power connected and the computer off.
As I pointed out, the flash on my original mobo was behaving as expected - vigorous flashing of the USB stick for over a minute as compared to the replacement mobo - single flash.
I'm sorry but, frankly, I'm surprised of the questions you're asking.
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December 16, 2012 6:30:24 PM

Sorry, Just want to make sure that you've followed the steps.
It's difficult when troubleshooting remotely.
You don't have to get upset. Try renaming the file to P9X79D.CAP.
If still the same, I would buy a BIOS chip.
Or RMA the board again. But this time explain ASUS that you need a board with a newer BIOS version.
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December 16, 2012 7:17:04 PM

No offense. As I said at the beginning, this is the first time I'm having problems after assembling a dozen or more rigs over the past 20 years. I'm always careful to follow all steps exactly and never miss anything. It's especially puzzling that I never had problems with Asus mobos before.
Are you suggesting just renaming the ROM or downloading the proper CAP?
My understanding is, that eventually I'll need a CAP BIOS for Win 8 anyway.
Buying a BIOS chip is not a problem, but what if the flash circuitry is faulty?
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December 16, 2012 7:24:39 PM

No problem.
Try firstly just renaming the ROM to CAP. If still the same, try a CAP BIOS and use the converter. I suggest to try firstly all flashing options.
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December 16, 2012 7:28:59 PM

O.K. Thank you. I'll try that.
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December 23, 2012 4:41:51 PM

Nothing worked. RMAed the mobo 2nd time. Received newer mobo but again 0802 despite a note that 0906 and up is required. Behaviour the same and again flashback is not working! Ordered the BIOS chip from BIOSDepot using most recent non-beta version via eBay.
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February 20, 2013 6:55:46 PM

alexoiu said:
No problem.
Try firstly just renaming the ROM to CAP. If still the same, try a CAP BIOS and use the converter. I suggest to try firstly all flashing options.


I apologize for long silence - I was away and also
away from my computer for quite some time.
I needed this break.
When I got back to my computer, I've discovered that
my 2nd RMAed board (3rd!!) was completely dead - it
wouldn't even power up. I've used the most recent BIOS 3305
from BIOS Depot via eBay as the 0802 may not support the 3820 (although Asus claims on its web site that it does). A borrowed working PSU (AX850) didn't help. Finally I've decided to RMA the 3820 explaining to Intel that this is the only common element
in all failures. Actually, I noticed a patch of strange yellow discororation on the bottom of the chip.
I got a new 3820, decided to write off the mobo and get the PRO
version instead (came with 3009!). Also, I found on one of the forums (spent counless hours) that Vengence doesn't play well with X79, but Skill was specifically tested with it.
So, after putting it all together I was pleasantly surprised
that my rig was alive and complaining about missing components!!!
This was quite a learning experience!
In retrospect, is it possible that the 3820 killed the mobo (then I have to apologize to Asus) or vice versa? The 3820 was definitely kicking with the 1st mobo (1 short beep).
Well, it's all academic now.
Thank you for your help and tips.
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June 11, 2013 2:36:30 PM

I got the same problem as you but I have CPU i7 - 3930k. you mean the CPU killing the Mabo? Which motherboard you using now and which mabo would you recommend? You got still same CPU or did you change it as well?

my system

asus P9X79 deluxe
asus gtx660 Ti
Corsair H100i
Corsair HX 850
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B
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