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January 24, 2012 3:25:37 PM

Hey. I am trying to get max performance on games and this is what I have right now:
AMD FX 4100 (horrible cpu I know)
Nvidia gtx 560 ti (2 in SLI)
Motherboard: Sabertooth 990fx
Ram: 8gb of some stuff, g-skill maybe?
Hard drive: Western digital 500 gb.


What I am thinking:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR!
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=amd+phenom+2+9...

I don't know if I should go with the phenom 2 980 or the new motherboard and i7? Is there a huge performance boost with an i7?

Thanks, cyansnow.

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January 24, 2012 3:40:53 PM

what is your use?
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January 24, 2012 3:43:14 PM

try and find a phenom x6, theyll match a 2600k in multithreaded and in games, theyre also pretty cheap and you wont need a new mobo
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January 24, 2012 3:50:18 PM

If you were running a single video card, I'd say just replacing the CPU with a fast Phenom II (970BE or 980BE) would probably help a noticeable amount. It still might, but from a couple articles I've read on the subject, multiple GPUs seem to run better on Intel systems. For games, an i5-2500K will be as good as an i7-2600K, so you can spend $100 less and get similar results.

Edit: If you haven't yet, get a decent 120mm cooler like a Xigmatek Gaia and overclock your 4100. How much difference that makes may give you some additional guidance on whether it is worth putting more money into your AMD system. I have the same mobo, a single GTX560Ti, and a 970BE (mildly OC'ed to 3.8GHz), and Skyrim runs well on it.
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January 24, 2012 3:51:40 PM

Gaming is the use. @ Rajaa.
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January 24, 2012 3:55:07 PM

990fx offer x16+x16 cfx, you won't find that on any mainstream intel chipset except very high end x58 or x79 motherboards.
what kind of problems are you having with the fx 4100? did overclocking (if you have done it already) help with gaming performance?
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January 24, 2012 4:00:24 PM

Hey Cyan, yea i have its bigger brother the FX 6100, i'm about to SLI my self. If you don't want to spend big bucks to get more parts. Why don't you just get a Phenom X6 like we1shcake said. If you can match the performance of the 2600k no use in getting intel when you can get the performance of intel for less i say. And SLI will do better with a 6 core. I have been told that i won't be bottlenecked either even tho my CPU performs lower than the Phenom X6 but one thing i say is my FX is cooler. Alot cooler. I heard people idling the Phenom X6 in the 70C's. I idle mine at 34 or 32 with the corsair A70
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January 24, 2012 4:04:46 PM

@De5_Roy I did overclock it to 3.9 and I have 3 fans+water cooling (mainly for the graphics cards, don't give a f about the CPU sometimes lol) and it didn't really help.

@Rock I most likely will get the phenom 2 980, its supposed to be a beast of a CPU.
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January 24, 2012 4:05:25 PM

Only in certain video applications does a Phenom II have any chance of coming close to an Intel i7. In games, the i7 (or i5) will be faster. Personally, I'm not sure it justifies scrapping $400 worth of parts, but I'm not the OP.
Incidentally, my 970BE @3.8GHz idles at 27C-28C under a Xigmatek Gaia.
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January 24, 2012 4:13:18 PM

have you thought about getting ivy bridge when they come out? ivy bridge (mainly z77 and z75 motherboards) will have pcie 3.0. pcie 3.0 x8+x8 is same as pcie 2.0 x16+x16.
unless intel does something like the cougar point sata bug, ivb should be okay...
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January 24, 2012 4:14:36 PM

when will IVB come out?
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January 24, 2012 4:18:39 PM

afaik, april 9.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cpu-ivy-bridge-p...
personally, i don't think getting new cpu+motherboard so soon is a good idea. i vy bridge might launch in april, amd's new piledriver cpus might come out later this year. piledriver is rumored to be am3+ compatible i.e. it will fit 990fx motherboards.
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January 24, 2012 6:25:48 PM

You have already got a AMD platform, to buy a new Mobo and CPU will cost unecessary expenses, your only really feasible path is to get a FX 8000 chip.
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January 24, 2012 6:31:54 PM

Shouldn't the FX OC to near 5 GHz on water? I know it goes beyond your 3.9 GHz even on air.
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January 24, 2012 9:43:22 PM

I'd wait on Piledriver, but don't hold your breath. Bulldozer was such a sucking buzzkill that I don't think it is unrealistic to hope that there were identifiable problems that could be fixed in Piledriver, making it what BD ought to have been. If PD is good, then you've got a top quality mobo just waiting for it. If it sucks, you can join me in giving up on AMD for performance. I'm not holding my breath, and it isn't like my 970BE isn't meeting my needs; it should for years (which was my intention when I bought it).
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January 24, 2012 9:45:34 PM

If you have loads of spare money then sure go for the asus and the i7 as imo that would be better than any amd
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January 25, 2012 4:01:57 AM

seumas_beathan said:
If you have loads of spare money then sure go for the asus and the i7 as imo that would be better than any amd


ASUS are not the only good componant provider, sometimes over rated too. And what i7 are you refering to? 1155, 1366 or 2011? X79's and SB-E are just so pointless right now.
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January 25, 2012 4:17:33 AM

sarinaide said:
ASUS are not the only good componant provider, sometimes over rated too. And what i7 are you refering to? 1155, 1366 or 2011? X79's and SB-E are just so pointless right now.

Asus makes pretty good boards though. Good companies are asus, gigabyte, msi, asrock and evga. I would stay away from biostar boards....
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January 25, 2012 4:21:04 AM

amuffin said:
Asus makes pretty good boards though. Good companies are asus, gigabyte, msi, asrock and evga. I would stay away from biostar boards....


I am definately not denying they probably have the best array of motherboards from low to high end, and probably are the best manufacturer. Though the downside is that they are generally high priced.

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January 25, 2012 4:23:26 AM

since your pc is relatively new, you could wait for a few more months and decide after seeing how the new hardware (ivy bridge, piledriver) turns out. few possibilities:
  • amd could release revised cpus that improves performace. you could upgrade to a 6-8 core then.
  • piledriver is compatible with am3+ and offers superior overall performance compared to bulldozer.
  • windows 8 improves performance on both bulldozer and piledriver.
    imo you have a good motherboard, couple of good gfx cards.
    decision is up to you.
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    January 25, 2012 4:27:45 AM

    Just wait until PD is out, see the reviews and decide then. If it is donkey doodie then sell your AMD stuff and move over to Intel.

    If predictions are anything to go by, PD is atleast 10% better. IMHO thats just not good enough.
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    January 25, 2012 9:11:45 AM

    I agree that if PD is only 10% better than BD it wouldn't cut it. I think the minimum improvement needs to be at least 20%, and I'm hoping for more; but like I said not holding my breath.
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