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October 24, 2011 8:39:59 AM

Hello all, first time poster, first time builder. After getting the itch for a long overdue rig upgrade and many hours looking up good deals on pre-made desktops and laptops I finally decided to just take the plunge and build my own for the first time. Not sure if I posted this in the correct area, so if a mod needs to move it for me thank you in advance. I need advice on a few things. Mainly, will this build work? As in, is everything here compatible with each other, do I have enough power or too much, am I spending too much on any given item, etc. Any input on this would be really appreciated. It is for gaming and the obvious other functions. This is my current shopping cart from Newegg.com, I have not made the purchases yet so things can be changed if needed. I'll check in frequently, thanks all up front for the help!

Case:
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119196
$84.99

Motherboard:
ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131647
$102.99

Video Card:
HIS IceQ X Turbo H679QNT1G2M Radeon HD 6790 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ...
Item #: N82E16814161371
$149.99

Power Supply:
Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified, Modular Design, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31/EPS12V ...
Item #: N82E16817182132
$79.99

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727
$129.99

RAM:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996988
Item #: N82E16820226184
$54.99

HDD
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D HDS721010DLE630 (0F13180) 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822145533
$69.99

Optical:
LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106276
$17.99

OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
$99.99

Extra Fan
COOLER MASTER SickleFlow 120 R4-L2R-20AR-R1 120mm Silent operation Red LED case fan
Item #: N82E16835103091
$9.99

Total:
$813.66 after S&H

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October 24, 2011 9:26:40 AM

Get the Spinpoint F3 1TB for your HDD and the HD6850 for the graphic card. If you're going to OC your CPU, get an aftermarket cooler.
Also, you're really buying windows? Hehe okay.
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October 24, 2011 9:27:57 AM

For 800 Bucks I think you can do better than this. Let's check out what all can be improved.... the processor could be improved go for a hexa core, atleast it will be helpful when they start launching software and games that could use more than 4 cores.

All the stuff in your rig seems to be pretty much compatible.

Motherboard:
ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item#: N82E16813131767
$99.99

GPU:
SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item#: N82E16814102908
$134.99 After Mail in rebate

CPU:
AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) 4 x 1MB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX
Item#: N82E16819103996
$129.99

There are a lot of good reviews about this processor. Worth a look into. But for the OCing lot...... :)  Personally I'd prefer the 6100 or the 8150 if the prices were less.

RAM:
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
Item#: N82E16820231460
$59.99
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October 24, 2011 9:45:54 AM

Thanks for the quick responses!

jiyung, I checked out that HDD and it's actually more money total (from shipping) for lesser speed (3.0 vs 6.0 G/s), am I missing something there? Good call on the video card though, it has better benchmarks for the same-ish price, I am looking at the 6850s they have available. And yes it's Windows for me lol, I am used to it and Win 7 looks like a nice jump from my current Vista.

alyoshka I can't really find a better deal on a fast quad core like that, I'm not sure I need 6 cores for gaming, aren't games barely just now starting to use quad? (I will not be playing FPSers, fyi)
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October 24, 2011 9:52:08 AM

First Off : WELCOME to Toms Hardware!! Below are a few things that I personally would change;

Get a Full Tower. Mid towers are not Ideal for Air Circulation in a gaming Rig.

Do not rely on the stock heatsink that will come with your processor. 9/10 time a $40 after market cooler will cool it way better.

There are better PSU's (Power Supply) out there for around the same $$$, but that will work with the one graphics card. If you ever plan on Crossfiring (2 Ati cards) That PSU wont cut it.

Could get a better Intel Processor around the same price. AMD is light years behind Intel right now in design and performance. But if your just looking for a ho-hum gaming rig that should work fine.

Would still get a Full tower tho. Good Luck!!
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October 24, 2011 9:57:00 AM

Yup right now, they're stuck on 4 cores, but a 6 core is going to perform at that level too, and it will be useful for later.
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October 24, 2011 10:14:14 AM

aviconus said:
First Off : WELCOME to Toms Hardware!! Below are a few things that I personally would change;

Get a Full Tower. Mid towers are not Ideal for Air Circulation in a gaming Rig.

Do not rely on the stock heatsink that will come with your processor. 9/10 time a $40 after market cooler will cool it way better.

There are better PSU's (Power Supply) out there for around the same $$$, but that will work with the one graphics card. If you ever plan on Crossfiring (2 Ati cards) That PSU wont cut it.

Could get a better Intel Processor around the same price. AMD is light years behind Intel right now in design and performance. But if your just looking for a ho-hum gaming rig that should work fine.

Would still get a Full tower tho. Good Luck!!


Thank you for the welcome. About the case, I chose that particular case because it seemed like it would have pretty nice airflow between it's fans and built in vents. Maybe looks are deceiving? Here is the direct link to it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My goal for a case is great airflow in a black finish, can you suggest a good deal on a full tower? Case selection has been my weakest point in all the info digging.

Also, which PSU and CPU would you recommend? Btw I don't ever plan on going SLI/Xfire, I did like the power efficiency rating feature of that PSU though. And if there is an intel equivalent to that CPU for a similar price I am all ears. (would probably have to change the motherboard too though, which is fine)

Over all I am trying to spend as close to $750 - $800 as possible, as that would leave me some breathing room to get a wireless keyboard and mouse (I want to use my 42" plasma as a monitor sometimes)


Lol yeah pretty much, I am a pussy about that, plus I'd rather just have a tangible disc in case something terrible goes wrong.
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October 24, 2011 10:28:10 AM

Something in the Same Price Range for a Full Tower:
Only looked for about 2 mins, just search Full Tower on Newegg and browse.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

@ Work so not a whole lot of time to research the CPU, but I would take an I-5 ($189) over the AMD. Obviously for the money its not a bad processor, but I would pay the extra $50 to get the I5. I5's are pretty easy to OC as well. Could easily push 4.0 on air. Dunno much about AMD over clocking though.
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October 24, 2011 10:29:12 AM

The FX 4100 may not be the best gaming processor no doubt about it, but it leaves you with plenty of room for other experiments, if you're into it.
Or you can use that Board the AM3+ one and still have room for further upgrades later on.
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October 24, 2011 4:19:34 PM

Decker89z said:
Thank you for the welcome. About the case, I chose that particular case because it seemed like it would have pretty nice airflow between it's fans and built in vents. Maybe looks are deceiving? Here is the direct link to it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My goal for a case is great airflow in a black finish, can you suggest a good deal on a full tower? Case selection has been my weakest point in all the info digging.

Also, which PSU and CPU would you recommend? Btw I don't ever plan on going SLI/Xfire, I did like the power efficiency rating feature of that PSU though. And if there is an intel equivalent to that CPU for a similar price I am all ears. (would probably have to change the motherboard too though, which is fine)

Over all I am trying to spend as close to $750 - $800 as possible, as that would leave me some breathing room to get a wireless keyboard and mouse (I want to use my 42" plasma as a monitor sometimes)



Lol yeah pretty much, I am a pussy about that, plus I'd rather just have a tangible disc in case something terrible goes wrong.


Haha don't pussy out bro, I am using Win7 ultimate and I burned it on a CD. No need to worry!
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October 24, 2011 5:20:44 PM

Decker89z said:
Hello all, first time poster, first time builder. After getting the itch for a long overdue rig upgrade and many hours looking up good deals on pre-made desktops and laptops I finally decided to just take the plunge and build my own for the first time. Not sure if I posted this in the correct area, so if a mod needs to move it for me thank you in advance. I need advice on a few things. Mainly, will this build work? As in, is everything here compatible with each other, do I have enough power or too much, am I spending too much on any given item, etc. Any input on this would be really appreciated. It is for gaming and the obvious other functions. This is my current shopping cart from Newegg.com, I have not made the purchases yet so things can be changed if needed. I'll check in frequently, thanks all up front for the help!

Case:
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119196
$84.99

Motherboard:
ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131647
$102.99

Video Card:
HIS IceQ X Turbo H679QNT1G2M Radeon HD 6790 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ...
Item #: N82E16814161371
$149.99

Power Supply:
Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified, Modular Design, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31/EPS12V ...
Item #: N82E16817182132
$79.99

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727
$129.99

RAM:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996988
Item #: N82E16820226184
$54.99

HDD
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D HDS721010DLE630 (0F13180) 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822145533
$69.99

Optical:
LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106276
$17.99

OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
$99.99

Extra Fan
COOLER MASTER SickleFlow 120 R4-L2R-20AR-R1 120mm Silent operation Red LED case fan
Item #: N82E16835103091
$9.99

Total:
$813.66 after S&H


Canada or U.S. ?? Nvm i figured it out lol
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