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November 26, 2012 6:50:32 PM

Hello Guys

this is my first post on the forum so apologies if this is the wrong section to post

I am building my first PC and needed some advice on Motherboards

My basic need for this PC is to do Graphics design (adobe illustrator, Photoshop etc) and some light video editing work (mainly video capture of the screen)

My requirements are:

USB 3.0
DDR3 Ram
SSD hard drive
HDMI port for Monitor


I have chosen some parts already

CPU: Intel 3rd Generation Core i7-3770K CPU (4 x 3.50GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 8Mb L3 Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0)

Hard Drive: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SATA Solid State Drive

Ram: Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3 XMS3 8GB Desktop Memory

Graphics Card: Palit 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 610 Graphics Card (DDR3, HDMI, DVI, VGA, PCI-Express 2.0, DirectX 11.0 & OpenGL 4.2 Support, 3D Vision with Blu-ray 3D Support, Nvidia PureVideo HD Technology)

I needed a motherboard that will be compatible with all the above parts


Any Recommendations?

My budget is around £80 but this is very flexible

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November 26, 2012 8:20:30 PM

Hey social fox

Thank you for the quick reply

as far as the graphic card was concerned I was gonna buying it for £35

what would you recommend? something that can run graphics software smoothly

that board you recommended will there be any compatibly issues with my other parts?

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a b V Motherboard
November 26, 2012 8:23:23 PM

No compatibility issue that I know of. As for the video card I would say your better off posting a separate thread in the video/graphics section. I myself am no wiz when it comes to video cards when doing graphic designs and editing. Also are you planning on overclocking? Would be beneficial if you did, after all that is a K series processor meaning it can be overclocked for pretty much "free" performance (apart from the slight wattage increase).
November 26, 2012 10:09:34 PM

I was not planning on over clocking

would i need to get a cooler if i did?
a b V Motherboard
November 26, 2012 10:16:06 PM

Nope if you are not overclocking the stock cooler will suffice for stock clocks. However in my opinion kind of a loss if your not planning to overclock when you have a Z77 motherboard and a K series processor. They both were meant to be overclocked but that's just my opinion :lol: 
I have always been a sucker for overclocking since it is kind of like free performance without shelling out more money with the exception of an adequate cooler.
November 26, 2012 10:27:03 PM

sunny the saint said:


Ram: Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3 XMS3 8GB Desktop Memory



if you plan on running multiple instances of Premiere Pro, Photoshop and After Effects, etc. you may need 12GB/16GB+
However 8GB should be fine if you are going to use one program at a time...

sunny the saint said:


Graphics Card: Palit 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 610 Graphics Card (DDR3, HDMI, DVI, VGA, PCI-Express 2.0, DirectX 11.0 & OpenGL 4.2 Support, 3D Vision with Blu-ray 3D Support, Nvidia PureVideo HD Technology)



taht graphics card is not too bad, but you could get a better one for around the same price. scope out some deals on NewEgg, or ask around (too lazy to look)
November 26, 2012 10:58:00 PM

socialfox

Hmm maybe down the line. Like i said this is my first time building a PC if i get it up and running then i will have a look at over clocking in like 6 weeks time

Wrathofdragon

Thanks for replying, Yeah i dont plan on using after effects at all Photoshop will be mostly used.

this one appeared to be cheapest for what it promised to deliver i will post on the graphics card section when i get a chance regarding what card to buy

Would i get away with using integrated graphics card of the CPU until a later date or do you recommend i install a decent graphics card from day 1?
November 26, 2012 11:03:21 PM

Sunny, if it helps I use Adobe CS5.5 and I wholeheartedly recommend that you consider spending a little extra on the GPU. Photoshop, Premiere and in particular After Effects can leverage the features of a decent GPU to accelerate render functions, from experience I can tell you the 610 is going to be a significant bottleneck in your rig.
November 26, 2012 11:22:16 PM

Hi Finitekomos

i see, What graphics card would you recommend for a decent performance in regard to using the adobe master collection?
a c 77 V Motherboard
November 26, 2012 11:52:15 PM

sunny the saint said:
Hi Finitekomos

i see, What graphics card would you recommend for a decent performance in regard to using the adobe master collection?


Adobe CS5 and CS6 requires Nvidia GPU with minimum 1GB DDR5, the cheapest you can get is old card GT 240 or GT 440 with 1GB DDR5 version, but still it is bad idea. Go with GT 650 1GB DDR5 or at least GTX 550TI, and it is all you need. It will boost Photoshop, premiere (Mercury playback engine), sony vegas, after effect, and any other video editing software.

If you buy amd radeon or even nvidia with DDR3, you will miss optimization in premiere and video editing.

PS; dont look at my username

if you want to read the longer version,
read this link : http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5....
November 27, 2012 11:00:12 PM

AmD Radeon

hmm perhaps its better for me to save up for a good Graphics card

If i omit a graphics card can i still load the operating system and install a good graphics card at a later date?
a b V Motherboard
November 27, 2012 11:06:31 PM

sunny the saint said:
AmD Radeon

hmm perhaps its better for me to save up for a good Graphics card

If i omit a graphics card can i still load the operating system and install a good graphics card at a later date?


Yep you can load the OS and do your normal tasks fine w/o the discrete video card. You will then be running of off the integrated graphics in the processor, which I believe is Intel HD 4000 which is decent. Though be prepared to suffer performance hits when gaming or doing anything graphic card intensive.
November 27, 2012 11:24:47 PM

socialfox said:
Yep you can load the OS and do your normal tasks fine w/o the discrete video card. You will then be running of off the integrated graphics in the processor, which I believe is Intel HD 4000 which is decent. Though be prepared to suffer performance hits when gaming or doing anything graphic card intensive.


than eventuallly you could save up and buy a great graphic card. it is better to wait and get a great thing, that getting an OK "temporary" graphics card that you will be stuck with for a long time...
November 28, 2012 8:56:59 PM

Ok thanks guys will probably do that

now i need to find a case

Thanks for the advice!
a b V Motherboard
November 28, 2012 9:17:24 PM

You can post your case question here, I am sure we will all be happy to assist you!
November 28, 2012 11:37:22 PM

Great Thanks!

I've been looking at PC Cases online

What size of PC case should i be looking at for with the above specifications (i am going with the motherboard you recommended social fox) I am interested in putting graphic cards at a later date (and a cooler when i overclock) should this affect which case I look to buy

I want to use usb 3.0 should i buy a case with these ports on there or can i buy a usb 3.0 panel and attach it?
a b V Motherboard
November 29, 2012 12:08:56 AM

Your going to want an ATX case, in order to support the ATX sized motherboard.

Here are some recommendations:
http://www.dabs.com/products/antec-300-three-hundred-tw...
http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-carbide-series-300...
http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-carbide-series-400...
http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-carbide-series-500...
http://www.dabs.com/products/zalman-z9-plus-tower-case-...
^That has usb 2.0, not sure if there are any adapters that convert it into 3.0 but I believe you can't do that. However not too sure so will need confirmation from another person.

Edit: Forgot to mention, would have been better if you posted a budget for your computer case. The cases above are of varying price ranges. Also consider the Haf 912 if available in your area.
November 30, 2012 3:02:54 PM

I love the 560(ti) as a GPU, but I've heard plenty good about the 550ti as well. I think for the case, I have a sweet spot for the Corsair Carbide Series (300r-500r). The current top case on Newegg is the Antec 300, which I've also heard good from, but I haven't seen it for myself. Price is $60 Here's a link.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 30, 2012 5:02:03 PM

what power supply would i need to run smoothly

500w?
November 30, 2012 5:21:58 PM

Do you guys recommend buying a PSU separate from the case? with the case or it doesn't matter?
a b V Motherboard
November 30, 2012 5:39:18 PM

99% of the time bundled power supplies included with the case are junk. They do not put out the labelled wattage and are of poor quality. That being said I would go with a separate power supply.

Anyways as of now I do not know how much wattage you need for the power supply without knowing the video card (if you have changed). If you are still going with the GT 610 then you could settle for something as little as 350-400 watts.
November 30, 2012 5:58:25 PM

i have decided to omit a graphics card for now and put a good one in at a later date so i would a need a good power supply
a b V Motherboard
November 30, 2012 7:42:51 PM

I would not say case fans are trash if they are supplied with the case. At the end of the day they spin and cool the computer case by being an intake or exhaust.

These are the fans with the case (according to newegg):
- Front: 120mm silent fan x 2 (w/ fan speed controller x 2)
- Rear: 80mm silent fan x1
- Top: 120mm silent fan x 1

That being said that is good airflow if the fans are oriented in the right direction depending on where they are.
November 30, 2012 8:02:31 PM

side note the stock cooler with the i7 can i upgrade that at later date ( when i decide to overclock) or is it difficult to remove once installed?
a b V Motherboard
November 30, 2012 8:55:42 PM

It's fairly easy to remove the stock cooler. The challenge is if you buy a new cooler most now a days require to remove the motherboard (if the other side panel does not allow access behind the motherboard). Once you remove the motherboard just install the new backplate that supports the cooler.
December 1, 2012 7:42:10 AM

check prices on Amazon UK - Unless a retail store has a "special deal" then its hard to beat for prices. Usually try to buy "supplied by Amazon" rather than 3rd party as returns easier.
December 3, 2012 8:57:56 AM

so what PSU should i be looking at 500W? or is that too low?
a b V Motherboard
December 3, 2012 9:33:04 AM

sunny the saint said:
so what PSU should i be looking at 500W? or is that too low?


We are going to need to know which graphics card you will be getting to select an optimal power supply.
a b V Motherboard
December 3, 2012 9:51:54 AM

Well I would say this power supply is good enough, leaves plenty of headroom and has dual PCI-E connectors.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-VP550P-Power-Supply-Units...

Hopefully the VP550 was just as good as the VP-450. I take it it's exclusive to europe? Can't find that on Newegg.ca

Here are other alternatives:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCZ-OCZ-ZT550W-UK-Series-550W-m...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12II-520-520-Power-Su...

In my opinion the Seasonic should be the best one in terms of quality.
December 3, 2012 10:15:20 AM

ahh great Thanks

So heres my shopping list

Gigabyte Gaming case
http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-gz-g2-gaming-case...

Antec VP550P Power Supply
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-VP550P-Power-Supply-Units...

AsRock Z77 motherboard
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007P710G4/

I7 processor
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generation-i7-3770K-3-50G...

Samsung SSD memory
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Series-120GB-Solid-Stat...

Corsair 8GB Ram
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0042A7CAA/

Anything else i am missing?

are all the above parts compatible? will i need to get some extra wires/converters?

When i do overclock will include a cooler a GPU and more ram




a b V Motherboard
December 3, 2012 10:29:01 AM

Looks good, but if you plan on overclocking the CPU then you will need a new aftermarket heatsink. The stock cooler is only good for stock clocks.
December 3, 2012 10:43:52 AM

yeah will note that down

will that ram fit the motherboard?

should also get a 2.5 to 3.5 bracket for the ssd drive
a b V Motherboard
December 3, 2012 10:51:33 AM

Don't worry about the ram, the motherboard can accept 1600mhz ram.
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