Intel core i5 over 90 degrees playing mmporgs

[misspeach]

Hi there,

I bought a new HP latop about a year ago and the last few months i have noticed it has been running very hot. i know nothing about computers, and have no knowlesge to dismantle one. after realising the hot temperatures i installed "core temp" to monitor the temp and i see that it idles around 40-50 degrees celcius which i am aware is fairly abnormal. while playing games such as world of warcraft it easily reaches 85 degrees celcius and becoming more frequent, reaching temperatures as high as 90 degrees celcius, and over, around 94 degrees celcius. this can not be good. i know that i have set my computer to hibernate when reaching 95 degrees. i have been using a cooling pad under my laptop, and i thoguht the culprit was simply playing games too long, but my temperature jumps from 60 or so (idle) to 90 in less than half an hour playing world of warcraft. I am beginning to get very worried about this but i just do not know what to do to fix it. please help me, i want to know possible reasons for this intense termperature and any ways i can fix it... if any. also if it is incredibly bad, and is recomended to take my laptop to a repair shop then please let me know. in desperate need of guidance! (please keep in mind i dont know much about computer lingo) help me!!!!

 

[sarinaide]

Laptops run hot generally, I played on a Asus ROG laptop and the CPU hit around 100 degrees without the cooling bed. I would invest in a cooler unless you like your lap warmed.

 

[misspeach]

Laptops run hot generally, I played on a Asus ROG laptop and the CPU hit around 100 degrees without the cooling bed. I would invest in a cooler unless you like your lap warmed.

I do have a cooling pad, i am going to invest in a better quality one however because the temperature surely shouldbe be exceeding 90 celsuis? it worries me, i just am scared that it will screw up my computer if it overheats so often. also afew freinds i have asked about tehir cpu temps say that there temps rarely reach over 80 celsius, and usually idle around 30-40 celsius, where mine is 10-20 degrees higher than that. also this issue hasnt been happening since i bought it, only the last few months, only i can not pin point when exactly this started occuring. considering they all play mmporgs on laptops aswell and their cpu temps are not nearly as high as mine reach i figured something must be wrong with either a component inside my laptop or a setting or something on the computer (both of which i have no clue how to fix..) im in desperate need to find the culprit of my issue, and also really want to cool my idle temp and full-running temp back down to regular temperatures. if need be i will take it to a repair shop but i dont know if it is necessary or not?... =(

 

[sarinaide]

Well a laptop is rather sturdily built and thats normal from my experiences with laptops running high loads. Its one of the downsides to a laptop, you cannot use additional coolers or venting as you can in a desktop.

Contact HP to test it with other stocks if you are highly concerned, though to me a MMO is very demanding and 90 is very normal in my experiences.

 

[AdrianPerry]

Personally I've never really felt laptops are built for gaming, or even for being left turned on over long periods of time (3hours+ for example)....despite what manufacturers advertise them as.

If your gaming regularly for long periods of time, your almost always going to get more performance, and a more stable system from using a desktop computer.

 

[sarinaide]

Running SW FU II maxed on a i72630Q and 540M for 20 minutes and the temps are like 90~94. Laptops are just not well vented or cooled, but are designed to take the heat.

 

[misspeach]

Running SW FU II maxed on a i72630Q and 540M for 20 minutes and the temps are like 90~94. Laptops are just not well vented or cooled, but are designed to take the heat.

ok so i didnt really understand all the numbers n stuff in that last post, but im pretty much mostly concerned about teh fact friends of mine manage to play mmos wihtout their laptops heating above 90 c... =( is there anything at all i can do to cool it down alittle more apart from obtaining a better cooling pad, maybe settings on the computer or anything like that which will cool it abit? even when im not gaming, it idles pretty high. is an idel of aroung 45-60 normal for a HP intel i5? after looking up on afew other forums i noticed others were idling at around 30 but then again i dont know if they were desktops or laptops.

and @ adrian, i know laptops arent as good as desktops for gaming, its just worrying that compared to other gamers who use laptops mine is the only one reaching temps of over 90 c.. its worrying me!

 

[RetiredChief]

Max temp for the 2410m is 100 C
Ref: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-2410M-Notebook-Processor.45317.0.html
Not sure @ what point the CPU will start to throttle down. For desktop SB CPUs (ie I5-2500k), it will start to throttle down at upper 90s (I think around 95->98 C).

Have a I5-2410m w/540m GPU, 2 SSDs and 8 gigs ram. Not a gamer, but will try it running furmark. Will get back.

Is it possible that you have some dust buildup inside that is reducing cooling effiencey?
what program are you using to monitor temps? - Some programs Use an incorrect TJ which may show incorrect temps, but in that case it is normally lower than real temperature.

Added:
Used reatemp for monitoring and ran furmark in burnin mode.
Indicated Tj for 2410M of 100 C.
Max temp was 77 C on core 1 and 73 C for core 2.
idle temps were around 40 C before test and after test @ idle ( 10 mins) temps dropped back to upper 40's

 

[misspeach]

Max temp for the 2410m is 100 C
Ref: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-2410M-Notebook-Processor.45317.0.html
Not sure @ what point the CPU will start to throttle down. For desktop SB CPUs (ie I5-2500k), it will start to throttle down at upper 90s (I think around 95->98 C).

Have a I5-2410m w/540m GPU, 2 SSDs and 8 gigs ram. Not a gamer, but will try it running furmark. Will get back.

Is it possible that you have some dust buildup inside that is reducing cooling effiencey?
what program are you using to monitor temps? - Some programs Use an incorrect TJ which may show incorrect temps, but in that case it is normally lower than real temperature.

Added:
Used reatemp for monitoring and ran furmark in burnin mode.
Indicated Tj for 2410M of 100 C.
Max temp was 77 C on core 1 and 73 C for core 2.
idle temps were around 40 C before test and after test @ idle ( 10 mins) temps dropped back to upper 40's

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hey retired chief, I'm not big on the computer talk so I wouldn't know anything other than the fact my CPU is intel i5. I know nothing else! But yes it could be possible there is some dust build up I don't cover my laptop or anything. Is there any way I can fix that!?
The program for temp records is "core temp" my partner put it on my laptop for me to help me monitor it's temps.. It seems to work well.

Do you think considering my issue that it is worth taking my laptop to a specialists place to have it looked at and tested to make sure the high temps won't damage my harddrive or shorten my laptops life?

.

 

[RetiredChief]

(1) might try a couple of other temp programs, such as HWMonitor, speedfan, and realtemp.

(2) The root cause is most likey one of the following.
..A) Dust buildup
..B) cpu fan decreased RPMs
..C) HSF was not mounted properly in the first place and requires the HSF to be removed, thermal paste cleaned off and new paste put on, and the HSF to be re-installed (Not replaced).

You can try a can of compressed air and blow the dust out (NOTE: do not use one that leaves an oily residue!!). If this does not work and you are uncomprotable dissasempling the laptop - have a professional do it.

Is this still under warrantee from HP, if so contact them.

 

[jaguarskx]

It depends on how the laptop's chassis is designed. Some have better cooling capabilities while others do not.

For example, I have a 14" Lenovo IdeaPad Y470 which I bought before there were any professionally written reviews about it. I tested some games on it because I decided to write a review of it. The games I tested were Fallout 3, Mass Effect 2, Crysis, and one other game which I can't remember. The nVidia GT 550m temps were pretty decent at around 63C - 65C. However, the i5-2410m temps ranged from 88C to 92C. I bought a cooling pad for it but it did not affect the temps, I guess it's due to how the internals are designed. I think towards the end of righting my review I came across a few professionally written reviews which confirmed that the Y470 does in fact run as hot a 92C while playing games. None of the reviewers seemed concerned since the laptop was stable and there was no CPU throttling.

It's bigger brother, the 15.6" Lenovo IdeaPad Y570 runs much cooler according to reviews. The CPU (I suppose it was an i5-2410m as well) reach up to only 75C when playing games. A pretty big difference for two laptops that looks similar to each other... at least on the outside.