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Ok, so I've been thinking about putting together a new computer for about a year now, and I finally have enough "pocket change" to get my first gaming rig. I am having a good bit of trouble deciding on some of these parts and to top it off; the EVGA GTX 560 Ti I was going to get is out of stock at newegg...and so is my backup, the superclocked version, go figure. Wanted to just get all my parts from Newegg as I want some continuity in where my parts are shipped from and heard their customer service is great. If anyone has an idea of when these GPUs will be back in stock that would be great. But back to my main problem, here is the list of parts I've put together, suggestions are more than welcome.

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130604
Or the superclocked version, whatever comes in stock first

Motherboard: (having a really hard time deciding what board to get, want to do SLI in the future so more than one PCI 2.0 slot is needed)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157265 (Think there's 2 PCI 3.0, do cards that fit in 2.0 work in 3.0?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130574
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157229
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131701
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131702

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231314

HDD: (So many choices...suggestions)

PSU: (Keep hearing that you should get a good quality power supply, ideas? Want to do future SLI)

Case: (Bad cable management, excellent cooling apparently, but if I have too much trouble I may just take a dremel to it heh)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

Monitor: (All I have is a crappy CRT monitor...so definitely need a newer one)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236052
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236049

As you can see I have a good ways to go before I can say this list is complete but that's why I really need some help. I will mainly be playing games on it, so basically any good game coming out I'll most likely be getting it, most prevalent being Skyrim, The Witcher 2, BF3 (Medium settings xD). Anyway I just need some feedback on what I've got going here. Thanks in advance!

Message edited by mrcow94 on 10-26-2011 at 01:40:53 AM

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ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $124.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157271

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $239.99 and a $10 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130623

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1567-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $249.99 and a $10 rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130651

EVGA DS SuperClocked 01G-P3-1567-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $259.99 and a $10 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130657

These cards are in stock and the motherboard has two slots for sli.

Reply to inzone

Yeah that board looks to be about the same and a good bit cheaper, and has two 2.0 slots, sweet. Is the only difference between the cards the warranty, one is 3 year limited it seems and the one I was looking at was lifetime, huh! May get them if the others aren't in stock when I'm looking to buy in the next couple weeks. Alright now any PSU/HDD suggestions?

Message edited by mrcow94 on 10-26-2011 at 01:59:32 AM

Reply to mrcow94

i would suggest SSD's for your primary drives

Kingston SSDNow V Series
http://www.eio.com/p-25199-kingsto [...] e-ssd.aspx

CORSAIR 128 GB Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.eio.com/p-28124-corsair [...] drive.aspx

OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.eio.com/p-29263-ocz-ocz [...] drive.aspx

and get a regular SATA drive for your secondary, mainly for storage and backups with more capacity.

Reply to eric8705

It doesn't matter what mainboard you get, all the one's you picked out are the same except for some minor features. There's no need to get an EVGA GPU. They're overpriced and you don't get that much more from them. Get an ASUS or a GIGABYTE. They're both great manufacturers.

You don't want that ram. You want this ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231428
Trust me, it's different. I'm not going too deep into why, but this ram was built for your motherboard.

HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136533
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136792
Primary SSD is a good idea, then do one of the above drives for programs, games and other stuff.
PSU
If you really do plan on doing some future SLI, you'll need at the bare minimum, a 750W. I'd get a 1000W just to be safe. Corsair PSUs are as nice as they get, but Rosewill is stepping up to the plate and providing some great products. I'd proudly represent either of them.

Case
Have fun with that, but I'd get a Cooler Master.

Monitor
Doesn't matter, but the second one is better.

Hope I helped.

Message edited by DrAwesome109 on 10-26-2011 at 02:02:57 AM

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Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $139.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371050

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V (optional ) Power Supply $79.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119240

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $89.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $139.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136533

ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers $199.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236049

These are also my recomendations.

Reply to inzone

If you have the budget then get a SSD for the OS ;

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $203.99 and a $30 rebate for $173.99 and the read/write speeds are great. 555/515

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233191

The Corsair SSD has some of the higher read/write speeds of all the SSD's. I have the 180gb version and am very happy with it.

Reply to inzone

Don't want to blow off the SSD idea but I really don't want to spend that much money on a drive that isn't that big. I know SSds are faster and much better in general but I just don't have the money to spare. Thanks for the RAM idea DrAwesome. Inzone, I was actually looking at the HAFs earlier this week. Don't know why I didn't keep that in my head. That hard drive looks pretty sweet too, though I'm a sucker for basing a purchase on what others have to say, 59% 5 star reviews? Eh, should I still get it? And I was also thinking the same on the monitors.

Reply to mrcow94

Just for future reference, sometimes the reviews don't mean anything. I've bought things that only had 10 reviews, where each of the reviews were one star because the product broke within the first day or week. A lot of the time, the people using the product and writing the reviews are just too stupid to figure out how to use it correctly. For example, Corsair Force 3 SSD. Two months ago, they all had nearly 200 1 star reviews because of BSOD issues, but that was because people didn't read the directions taht said to disable HDD power saver mode in windows Vista and 7. People are stupid, the reviews reflect that. It's important to identify whether a review is applicable or the reviewer is just stupid.

Reply to DrAwesome109

True, and I also realize that people will be more likely to leave a negative review just for the sake of complaining opposed to them being happy with the product and just resuming their lives. But I'll keep that in mind heh. How much would you say is paying too much for an 850 watt power supply that is modular...the one I'm looking at is 170 but I REALLY think that's pushing it, or am I just overreacting at the price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139011

Reply to mrcow94

You'll want v3 of the Antec 900, comes with airfilters and usb3.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129097

Reply to sceen311

Nice, be getting that too lol. Anyone have anything to say about that PSU?

Reply to mrcow94

What do you all think of this board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] llFullInfo

Reply to mrcow94

For $30 less you can get the Antec I listed and it has exellent reviews , I always stay with companies that specialize in what they sell and Antec has always made good power supplies.

Reply to inzone

Again, Corsair is top of the line. They will last forever. I proudly boast a 1000W Rosewill with no problems in the year that I've owned it. $175 is a lot for a PSU, but expected from Corsair.
The ASRock board that you picked out is just like all the other P67 boards, just with a few extra features like instant boot, multi fan speed control, and O.C. utilities.

Have fun, and good luck.

Reply to DrAwesome109

Alright so basically doesn't matter what Mobo I get, as they'll all pretty much be the same. And I think I have a bit better of an idea of what to get now. Thanks for the posts ; D

Reply to mrcow94

hey brother, I wouldn't recommend the EVGA if you plan on overclocking. EVGA doesn't make their products able to be OC'd tbh. And while my twin 560 ti's from them work quite well, I'd go with MSI instead. MSI is extremely easy to oc from my understanding (and what my buddys rave about them). The lifetime warranty from EVGA is epic, you only need a 1 to 3 year warranty, because you'll end up upgrading either your computer or your GFX cards by then anywho :]

for your PSU, plug all of your components into a power calculator. (http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp)

this is what i use. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139015

Modulars have great cable managment. Also, you wanna pay attention to the badge (Bronze, Silver, and Gold). Bronze being the lowest % of power efficiency, and gold being the highest.

Corsair makes them from 650 all the way up to 1200. I have a 850 because that's actually what i need

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119194

Thats the case i use, it has great cooling, phenomenal cable management, and the case is rock freakin SOLID. I love it :]

Message edited by scuba356 on 10-26-2011 at 04:35:27 AM

Reply to scuba356

Nice case, thing looks like a beast! Yeah I was looking into getting an 800ish PSU, either the one I listed earlier or the Asus inzone suggested (though its non-modular). The reason I was looking into the EVGA opposed to the MSI Twin Frozr II, is because I heard of a lot of artifacting and the need of RMA and also EVGAs lifetime warranty, though I agree that 2 to 3 years is plenty. EVGA one also seems to have less issues, but I am considering just going MSI. Decisions decisions...

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