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My New Build Featuring Intel And ATI... Is It Okay?

ram- corsair xms3 1333mhz 8gb dual channel
gpu- sapphire radeon 6950 dirt 3. will unlock to 6970
mobo- asus maximus iv extreme
hdd- wd caviar black 2tb 64mb cache. will upgrade to raid 0 later
cpu- intel core i7 2600k. will overclock
ssd- crucial m4 128gb
dvd drive- lite-on dvd writer
bluray burner- lite-on bluray burner
cooler- corsair h100 (push-pull)
case- CM storm enforcer
psu- corsair hx850
extras- usb card reader, wirless pci network card


is it good and what could i improve on?

Im a gamer and my dad does video editing,encoding etc. so we'll be using multithreaded apps too.

if i change the sdd to patriot pyro 64gb in raid 0 will there be a performance increase?

how does 10k and 15k rpm HDD compare to ssd?

should i put 2 wd caviar black 1tb in raid 0? Is there any gain?

The monitor im using is- LG e2360n-pn


I want to stick on to intel and ati.


PS: Im mostly buying from tigerdirect and do they ship international?
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More about build featuring intel okay
  1. excellent choose faster and smarter.
  2. pro-gamer said:
    excellent choose faster and smarter.

    what about the storage im getting confused with that!!!

    120gig ssd or dual 60gig in raid 0
    2tb hard drive or dual 1tb in raid zero
    and 10/15k rpm vs ssd. what is better?
  3. ssd is better than any mechanical drive for speed.

    However RAID on SSDs tends to limit TRIM support, so its not reccommended
  4. Go with 7200rpm 1Tb or higher for normal storage. They are relatively cheap. Crucial M4 128GB SSD is the only one i suggest. Its the best out there, and priced competively with others per capacity.

    Do not get an i7 2600k for gaming. an i5 2500k is just as good for gaming, and $110 less. It overclocks the same, and does everything the 2600k does, it just doesn't have hyper-threading. This agian, has no benefit for gaming.

    The CM Storm enforcer is a good case, however, i prefer the HAF 922 over that. Best air flow case they make.

    You dont need an HX850, an HX750 will be plenty even if you use 2 6950's in CFX.
  5. casualbuilder said:
    Go with 7200rpm 1Tb or higher for normal storage. They are relatively cheap. Crucial M4 128GB SSD is the only one i suggest. Its the best out there, and priced competively with others per capacity.

    Do not get an i7 2600k for gaming. an i5 2500k is just as good for gaming, and $110 less. It overclocks the same, and does everything the 2600k does, it just doesn't have hyper-threading. This agian, has no benefit for gaming.

    The CM Storm enforcer is a good case, however, i prefer the HAF 922 over that. Best air flow case they make.

    You dont need an HX850, an HX750 will be plenty even if you use 2 6950's in CFX.

    ill take 1tb hdd
    and crucial m4 128gig
    i chose enforcer due to usb 3.0
    i chose intel core i7 because it has hyperthreading and the i5 doesnt
    my dad needs i7 not i5

    but ur right 2500k is more than enough for gaming

    but what about raid?
  6. casualbuilder said:
    Go with 7200rpm 1Tb or higher for normal storage. They are relatively cheap. Crucial M4 128GB SSD is the only one i suggest. Its the best out there, and priced competively with others per capacity.

    Do not get an i7 2600k for gaming. an i5 2500k is just as good for gaming, and $110 less. It overclocks the same, and does everything the 2600k does, it just doesn't have hyper-threading. This agian, has no benefit for gaming.

    The CM Storm enforcer is a good case, however, i prefer the HAF 922 over that. Best air flow case they make.

    You dont need an HX850, an HX750 will be plenty even if you use 2 6950's in CFX.


    what is special about crucial m4 its also more expensive?
  7. Im not sure about Corsair that he listed, but Crucial M4 is a synchronous drive. This means that unlike the asynchronous drives that bog down after 50% capacity, this thing stays at suggested retail speeds all the way up to 80% capacity. That is the where the price difference comes in, and why i recommend them.
  8. Is my power supply sufficient?

    i will unlock 6950 to 6970 and put them in crossfire
    i will have 8gb of ddr3 ram 1333mhz and i will later upgrade to 16gb
    i will overclock my i7 2600k to 4.5 to 5ghz using corsair h100
    2 cd/dvd/bluray drives
    2 or 3 storage drives
    totally 6 fans in my case

    my psu is corsair hx850
    and according to 'extreme psu calculator' i need 1050 watts!!!
    is 'extreme psu calculator' Acuuurate because CasualBuilder said a 750watt drive would be sufficient!!!
  9. casualbuilder said:
    Im not sure about Corsair that he listed, but Crucial M4 is a synchronous drive. This means that unlike the asynchronous drives that bog down after 50% capacity, this thing stays at suggested retail speeds all the way up to 80% capacity. That is the where the price difference comes in, and why i recommend them.


    hey, i saw and read some review about the crucial m4 128gig and let me say it rocks!!! now im okay to pay the extra cash because its worth...

    is 'extreme psu calculator' the truth? for my rig its saying 1050W but you said 750W is enough a 850 is more than required???


    Do you have any idea if Tigerdirect.com ships to India?
  10. a *good* 850W is enough to SLI a pair of GTX 570s or crossfire HD 6950s.
  11. ScrewySqrl said:
    a *good* 850W is enough to SLI a pair of GTX 570s or crossfire HD 6950s.

    I will also overclock the cpu and if i unlock the 6950 to 6970 will there be a power consumption difference and am i pushing the psu out of its safe-side due to all the stuff im adding and overclocking?
    Im pretty sure corsair hx850 is a *good* power supply
  12. yes of course ssd is much more better than hdd but they are too expensive buy 64gb for OS and some heavy games like bf3,skyrim.
    and add 1tb samsung sata3
  13. pro-gamer said:
    yes of course ssd is much more better than hdd but they are too expensive buy 64gb for OS and some heavy games like bf3,skyrim.
    and add 1tb samsung sata3

    CasualBuilder told me that 64gig wont be enough so i thought ill buy 128gig ssd
    even i thought 128 beacous 35-40gb will used by windows and its update.

    is my psu ok for all the stuff im adding+overclocking cpu?
  14. so this will be more better to get an 128gb ssd nice! and yes your psu is too enough for overclocking.
  15. pro-gamer said:
    so this will be more better to get an 128gb ssd nice! and yes your psu is too enough for overclocking.

    should i consider WD Velociraptor 600gb or should i stick with what i planned.
    btw, about the 1tb samsung i need at least 2tb of storage because i will store games which are now 10gb per games and tons of movies, tv shows and music.


    should i put the storage drives in raid 0 (dual wd caviar black 1tb)?
  16. Best answer
    Hey,

    If the storage drives are just that, and not overflow drives for installing games that won't fit on the SSD, you're probably better off leaving RAID alone.

    Your PSU is ample for your build. You could just about get away with SLIed 580s so lesser cards will be fine.

    A couple of comments:
    1. Not everybody has luck flashing the new Sapphire 6950s to 6970s, so do your research and make sure you know what you're in for. I've got two of them but haven't tried yet.
    2. DDR3-1600 seems to be the sweet spot for Sandy Bridge (obviously at 1.5v). Either Tom's or Anandtech ran a useful article on it a few months ago - might be worth tracking down.
    3. Don't get the enforcer. In that price range you should consider the CM692 Advanced (aka 690 II). I've got one and it's the best case I've used. Great cooling, well built and quiet.
    4. I'm sure the H100 is a worthy cooler, but you might not need to spend that much. People are getting great results from the CM Hyper 212+/Evo. I can't really talk though, having spent up on a Venemous X in push-pull for my 2600K @ 5.0...

    Anyway, whether you take my advice or not you'll end up with a pretty sweet build. Have fun.
  17. HX850 will support GTX580's in SLI and any OC on the cpu. GTX580's use appr. 490W in SLI, so add in a relatively high wattage cpu, say 125W, that leaves you with 215W of overhead to play with. no amount of fans, hdds/ssds, or cd/dvd-drives will use that. You are good to go.

    On this note, RADEON gpu's use less power. So, yes, the HX850 is PLENTY to run 2 6950's, possibly even a 3rd if you are looking to down the road. I believe their individual wattage is around 205W max load, so that is roughly 740W for 3 cards and a cpu. Even with all 3 OC'd with the cpu and all your extra hardware, an HX850 should have what you need. if you are questioning the power, upgrade to the HX1050. You won't ever need any more.

    a 64Gb. SSD is going to be cutting it close. Reason being, once you use around that 50GB capacity, it will start to slow down with the M4, give or take 5Gb. So, if you put Win7 64 on there, especially an Ultimate, you will use almost 40Gb just with the OS. That leaves you 5-15Gb left of useful storage. Go bigger, and dont be disappointed or regret your purchase.

    On the note of unlocking the 6950 to a 6970, there is a chance you could destroy your card, so like the above thread states, its not guaranteed, and it is dangerous. Do your research, and then do it again.
  18. romany8806 said:
    Hey,

    If the storage drives are just that, and not overflow drives for installing games that won't fit on the SSD, you're probably better off leaving RAID alone.

    Your PSU is ample for your build. You could just about get away with SLIed 580s so lesser cards will be fine.

    A couple of comments:
    1. Not everybody has luck flashing the new Sapphire 6950s to 6970s, so do your research and make sure you know what you're in for. I've got two of them but haven't tried yet.
    2. DDR3-1600 seems to be the sweet spot for Sandy Bridge (obviously at 1.5v). Either Tom's or Anandtech ran a useful article on it a few months ago - might be worth tracking down.
    3. Don't get the enforcer. In that price range you should consider the CM692 Advanced (aka 690 II). I've got one and it's the best case I've used. Great cooling, well built and quiet.
    4. I'm sure the H100 is a worthy cooler, but you might not need to spend that much. People are getting great results from the CM Hyper 212+/Evo. I can't really talk though, having spent up on a Venemous X in push-pull for my 2600K @ 5.0...

    Anyway, whether you take my advice or not you'll end up with a pretty sweet build. Have fun.


    Im just trying to flash the card if it doesnt work the 6950 is still a pretty powerful card. i will use the 'techpowerup' method. plus sapphire 6950 dirt 3 has dual bios switch.

    I thought of 1600mhz ram but according to intel website 2600k doesnt support ddr3-1600, it only supports 1333 and 1066mhz ddr3 ram

    im buying enforcer because it has usb 3.0 which is new feature in cases in that price range and it also uses internal usb3 header. The enforcer also has an open space at the top which i can use for my h100.

    I need h100 because people say its very quiet. The other option was the noctua d-14, but i chose water over air cooling.

    ill install most games on wd caviar black, ill install OS and important apps on the ssd.
  19. casualbuilder said:
    HX850 will support GTX580's in SLI and any OC on the cpu. GTX580's use appr. 490W in SLI, so add in a relatively high wattage cpu, say 125W, that leaves you with 215W of overhead to play with. no amount of fans, hdds/ssds, or cd/dvd-drives will use that. You are good to go.

    On this note, RADEON gpu's use less power. So, yes, the HX850 is PLENTY to run 2 6950's, possibly even a 3rd if you are looking to down the road. I believe their individual wattage is around 205W max load, so that is roughly 740W for 3 cards and a cpu. Even with all 3 OC'd with the cpu and all your extra hardware, an HX850 should have what you need. if you are questioning the power, upgrade to the HX1050. You won't ever need any more.

    a 64Gb. SSD is going to be cutting it close. Reason being, once you use around that 50GB capacity, it will start to slow down with the M4, give or take 5Gb. So, if you put Win7 64 on there, especially an Ultimate, you will use almost 40Gb just with the OS. That leaves you 5-15Gb left of useful storage. Go bigger, and dont be disappointed or regret your purchase.

    On the note of unlocking the 6950 to a 6970, there is a chance you could destroy your card, so like the above thread states, its not guaranteed, and it is dangerous. Do your research, and then do it again.


    I wont go more than 2 gpu's.

    do many people's cards fail when they try to flash it. if it does i wont even try... theres alot of money on the line.
    On youtube, if seen many people like: linus, erlic unlock the card with no issues at all... Is very risky?


    im buying the 128gig crucial m4 to 64gig. I took your advice with the better ssd. ill install some heavily used programs like ms office, firefox, chrome etc.
  20. its 50/50. However, there is a chance that the gpu will be damaged during the flash. No RMA will be issued if this happens, as they will know. My opinion, spend the extra $20-$40 and get the 6970. Its worth it for no problems if thats the card you actually want.
  21. About the HX850, unless you ever plan on going with nvidia cards, i believe you are ok with even the HX650/HX750. With intel i5 2500k, and the 2 HD6970's, you will pull around 540W. Plenty of headroom for everything else.
  22. casualbuilder said:
    its 50/50. However, there is a chance that the gpu will be damaged during the flash. No RMA will be issued if this happens, as they will know. My opinion, spend the extra $20-$40 and get the 6970. Its worth it for no problems if thats the card you actually want.


    I checked on anandtech benchmarks and there is not much difference between 6950 and 6970 so i dont think it will make a big difernce while playing games on a single 23inch monitor, right?

    the sapphire radeon 6950 dirt 3 has dual bios switch does this make any difference at all. Will the switch make the unlocking more successful?

    the 6970 is 70-80$ more than 6950 and thats out of my budget because i chose 2600k over fx-8150, asus maximus iv over asus crosshair v formula and crucial m4 128gb over ocz solid 3 120gb. The upgrades are worth it but i dont think i can go further than 25$ or 30$ max :(
  23. if you are only ever going to use a Single Monitor Setup, i would highly recommend you spend the money on a GTX580. nvidia is better for higher graphics on single monitors, while AMD/ATI are known for triple monitor setups due to their eyefinity and drivers.
  24. casualbuilder said:
    if you are only ever going to use a Single Monitor Setup, i would highly recommend you spend the money on a GTX580. nvidia is better for higher graphics on single monitors, while AMD/ATI are known for triple monitor setups due to their eyefinity and drivers.


    I will upgrade to 3-way eyefinity later like mid 2012 once i get my second 6950 card. For now im using a 23'' single monitor display. I chose one with thin bezel for a good eyefinity setup.

    link is: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=348815&sku=L49-2350
  25. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236102

    This is a much better monitor for gaming, and still in your price range.
  26. Dunno what Dell monitor prices are like where you are, but the U2311H (maybe U2312H) is a steal where I am and being e-IPS is well-suited to portrait eyefinity.
  27. is asus maximus iv a extended atx or standard atx mobo?

    on newegg its mentioned e-atx and on tigerdirect its mentioned atx!

    CM storm enforcer doesnt support e-atx
  28. i believe they have all 3 sizes available, m-ATX, ATX, and e-ATX. you would have to make sure on the specific website you are buying from.
  29. casualbuilder said:
    i believe they have all 3 sizes available, m-ATX, ATX, and e-ATX. you would have to make sure on the specific website you are buying from.


    is this ATX?

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7343076&CatId=6978
  30. timarp000 said:



    Specifications

    ASUS MaximusIVExtreme B3 Intel P67 RoG Motherboard Processor Socket: Intel


    Processor Interface: LGA1155


    Form Factor: ATX

    Processors Supported: 2nd generation Intel® Core™ i3
    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5
    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i7


    Additional Technologies: ASUS EZ Flash 2
    ASUS Crash Free BIOS3
    Mem OK!
    Asus TurboV EVO
    Asus AI Suite II
    ASUS EFI BIOS
    ASUS Q-Design
    ASUS Fan Xpert
    ASUS Q-Connector
    ASUS-Q Shield
    ROG Bluetooth
    ASUS ROG Extreme Engine Digi+


    Multi-GPU Support: SLI Ready
    CrossFireX Ready


    Northbridge: Intel® P67 Express


    Memory Supported: DDR3 1333MHz
    DDR3 1600MHz
    DDR3 1866MHz (OC)
    DDR3 2133MHz (OC)
    DDR3 2200MHz (OC)


    Memory Type: DDR3


    Number of Pins: 240-Pin


    Maximum Memory Supported: 32GB - 64bit


    Number of Slots: 4


    Max. Memory Supported Per Slot: 8GB


    Channels: 8 Channels


    Audio Chipset: Realtek® ALC889


    LAN Type: 10/100/1000 Mbps Gigabit


    PS/2 Keyboard Connectors: 1 x PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Combo port


    USB Ports (Total): 19


    USB 3.0 Ports: 8


    USB Rear Panel Ports: 1


    USB Onboard Headers: 4 - (expandable to 8 USB ports)
    1 - (expandable to 2 USB 3.0 ports)


    LAN Ports: 2


    Audio Out Jacks: 4


    Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s Headers: 4
    2 - External


    Serial ATA 6.0Gb/s Headers: 4


    ATX Power Connectors: 1 24-Pin Connector
    1 x 8-pin EATX 12V Power connector


    Fan Connectors: 1 x CPU Fan connector (4-pin)
    1 x Power Fan connector (3-pin)
    3 x Chassis Fan connector(s)


    S/PDIF Connectors: 1 - Optical


    PCI Express X1 Slots: 1


    PCI Express X4 Slots: 1


    PCI Express X16 Slots: 4


    RAID Support: Yes


    RAID Modes: 0
    1
    10
    5


    Length: 30.5cm


    Width: 26.9cm



    From the specs listed, yes.
  31. lol...sorry 384-BiT

    /facepalm

    However, he already had the link, i was showing him the actual place i found it. My bad.
  32. just a note on unlocking 6950s....pretty much ONLY the first batches were truly unlockable. newer models won't unlock (AMD -- and everyone else -- figured out it was hurting actual 6970 sales).

    If you want 6970 performance, get 6970s. 6950s can be overclocked close to stock 6970 performance, but can't be unlocked anymore
  33. ScrewySqrl said:
    just a note on unlocking 6950s....pretty much ONLY the first batches were truly unlockable. newer models won't unlock (AMD -- and everyone else -- figured out it was hurting actual 6970 sales).

    If you want 6970 performance, get 6970s. 6950s can be overclocked close to stock 6970 performance, but can't be unlocked anymore


    what is i buy the reference model 6970? the visiontek one.
  34. If you want 6970 performance, then get a 6970. The visiontek company im not familiar with, but i know ASUS, Sapphire, and HIS are great companies.
  35. casualbuilder said:
    If you want 6970 performance, then get a 6970. The visiontek company im not familiar with, but i know ASUS, Sapphire, and HIS are great companies.


    visiontek are the official amd cards, the reference models. those are the ones amd or ati made for the amd 'vision' platforms. eg. vision premium, vision black

    The sapphire one i chose has a 'dual bios switch' ( sapphire radeon hd 6950 dirt 3 edition ) will that help the unlocking? even the reference card had the dual bios switch. Ive seen videos on youtube where people do them (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvp5-SlV1Q0 )

    Linus is using reference card with the dual bios switch and even 6950 dirt 3 has dual bios swith... This should help right?

    i checked if i t has the switch you only need a bios upgrade if you dont have the switch you'll have to flash the card which could damage it... IS THIS TRUE???
  36. ??? tbh...im an nvidia guy. i only ever game with 1 monitor. I havent used an AMD/ATI card since my old 4650...lol
  37. check this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvp5-SlV1Q0

    and

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=350307

    and

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIV_gQEWqPs


    I think If you have the switch you dont mess with the bios you just unlock the extra shaders and boost up the clock speeds. the voltages and timings are left alone
  38. If you are OC'ing a vid card, the best tool out there, and very user friendly might i add, is MSI Afterburner. Its downloadable from MSI's website, and is free.
  39. Have you though of this card:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102951 ?
    Already comes with a 6970 bios preloaded just flip the switch into position 2,When I got mine I just turned off the computer,then opened my case,set the switch near the crossfire fingers to position 2, and When I booted up Gpu-z said both my cards where at 1536 Shaders,also they Overclock great even after unlocking.
    Here is a few reviews:
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/sapphire-radeon-hd-6950-toxic.html#sect0

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/29/sapphire_toxic_hd6950_video_card_review/1

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd6950_toxic_2gb/

    If you notice all the reviews mentioned setting the power to 20%.
  40. Andy34 said:
    Have you though of this card:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102951 ?
    Already comes with a 6970 bios preloaded just flip the switch into position 2,When I got mine I just turned off the computer,then opened my case,set the switch near the crossfire fingers to position 2, and When I booted up Gpu-z said both my cards where at 1536 Shaders,also they Overclock great even after unlocking.
    Here is a few reviews:
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/sapphire-radeon-hd-6950-toxic.html#sect0

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/29/sapphire_toxic_hd6950_video_card_review/1

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd6950_toxic_2gb/

    If you notice all the reviews mentioned setting the power to 20%.

    do all 6950 toxics have the 6970 bios pre-installed?Or is it only a few...

    The 6970 bios wont damage the card right?
  41. No guarantee that it won't damage the card (probably won't) Most of the cards do have the 6970 bios as you can see in the newegg reviews people are still getting unlock able ones.
    From what I know of the card will come with 2 6950 bios or one 6950(position1) and one 6970(position2)I'd say its a 50%-80% chance that you will get a 6970 bios.
    Even if they don't unlock which they probably will its still a solid card with great overclocking.It may nto run as cool as the other 6950 you where thinking of getting(unless yur at 60-100% fan)but, it has a higher unlock chance.

    Edit: Have you bought all your parts yet? I suggest you buy your storage ASAP prices increasing i just refreshed the page and I just saw 3 1TB hard drives go up 30$!
    The Seagate 1TB I bought is now 140$ so happy I bought for 50$ 3 weeks ago,that flood is really taking its toll hope everyone affected is ok.
  42. Andy34 said:
    No guarantee that it won't damage the card (probably won't) Most of the cards do have the 6970 bios as you can see in the newegg reviews people are still getting unlock able ones.
    From what I know of the card will come with 2 6950 bios or one 6950(position1) and one 6970(position2)I'd say its a 50%-80% chance that you will get a 6970 bios.
    Even if they don't unlock which they probably will its still a solid card with great overclocking.It may nto run as cool as the other 6950 you where thinking of getting(unless yur at 60-100% fan)but, it has a higher unlock chance.

    Edit: Have you bought all your parts yet? I suggest you buy your storage ASAP prices increasing i just refreshed the page and I just saw 3 1TB hard drives go up 30$!
    The Seagate 1TB I bought is now 140$ so happy I bought for 50$ 3 weeks ago,that flood is really taking its toll hope everyone affected is ok.

    so if i buy the 6960 toxic i will not have to download and other bios etc. because the 6970 bios is mostly pre-installed.

    The toxic 6950 is 290$ and there is a HIS radeon 6970 for 315$

    Should i buy his?

    mant people say its a bad company and it has very bad customer support...
  43. not sure with toxic but his radeon is good i think.
  44. pro-gamer said:
    not sure with toxic but his radeon is good i think.

    'Toxic' as in sapphire toxic edition 6950...
  45. Can you post a link to the HIS card, if its the IceQ version i say go for it although i only see it at 370-400$ in that case then go with the Toxic 6950.
    If this is your card :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161356&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
    Then I'd say no. If its this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161385 at 315$ then go for it although the 25C idle is a lie as most people stated and not worth the 380$.

    I noticed your case, are you sure it will fit a 6970 as most are 10.5 Inches, even if it does fit I doubt it will stay at a good 38C idle If you can save up for a HAF-932 or a HAF-X
    That or if you have space use some plastic ties and tie a 120mm fan to your drive bays so that it blows air toward your card.I did that with my HAF-X and my temps dropped 4C. If you do get a haf x do not use the air-duct if your in a crossfire setup the airduct will block the fan on the lower card, I noticed this on my setup and my temps went up alot,just tie a fan, it works better and saves you time trying to find the screws for it.
  46. Andy34 said:
    Can you post a link to the HIS card, if its the IceQ version i say go for it although i only see it at 370-400$ in that case then go with the Toxic 6950.
    If this is your card :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161356&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
    Then I'd say no. If its this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161385 at 315$ then go for it although the 25C idle is a lie as most people stated and not worth the 380$.

    I noticed your case, are you sure it will fit a 6970 as most are 10.5 Inches, even if it does fit I doubt it will stay at a good 38C idle If you can save up for a HAF-932 or a HAF-X
    That or if you have space use some plastic ties and tie a 120mm fan to your drive bays so that it blows air toward your card.I did that with my HAF-X and my temps dropped 4C. If you do get a haf x do not use the air-duct if your in a crossfire setup the airduct will block the fan on the lower card, I noticed this on my setup and my temps went up alot,just tie a fan, it works better and saves you time trying to find the screws for it.


    I will remove the drive cage so that the card will fit and airflow will increase
  47. The recent batch of sapphire toxic 6950s seem to all have the 6970 bios. I bought two in the last month, both have the 6970 bios...just flip the switch.

    I can't think of a better set-up at the price than two toxics unlocked to the 6970 bios.

    Other suggestions I would make (that I think others have made):

    1. Bigger the case the better (though the toxics vent air OUT of the case and have made everything noticably cooler in my build)

    2. RAM...get at least 1600...there's good low-latency stuff available at 1600 (g.skill, mushkin, corsair)

    3. PSU. Figure out what you need then go a little higher...and the better certifications seem to help
  48. timarp000 said:


    if i change the sdd to patriot pyro 64gb in raid 0 will there be a performance increase?

    how does 10k and 15k rpm HDD compare to ssd?

    should i put 2 wd caviar black 1tb in raid 0? Is there any gain?

    The monitor im using is- LG e2360n-pn


    I want to stick on to intel and ati.


    PS: Im mostly buying from tigerdirect and do they ship international?


    RAID 0 is a good idea but it leaves more room for failure, and on SSDs, you do not want them to fail.

    10K and 15K RPM hard drives do not offer any performance boosts over standard 7200 RPM and SSD. Your best bet is to go with a Z68 motherboard and enable the smart SSD cache in the BIOS, then go with the 128GB SSD and 2TB hard drive option, that's your best bet.

    The only somewhat alternative is to use Seagate's Momentus XT hard drive, which is a hybrid SSD/HD, but it's a 2.5" form factor and it's generally made for laptops, and would require an adapter for desktops.

    And yes Intel and ATI is an excellent choice, that's what I'm running right now.
  49. g-unit1111 said:
    RAID 0 is a good idea but it leaves more room for failure, and on SSDs, you do not want them to fail.

    10K and 15K RPM hard drives do not offer any performance boosts over standard 7200 RPM and SSD. Your best bet is to go with a Z68 motherboard and enable the smart SSD cache in the BIOS, then go with the 128GB SSD and 2TB hard drive option, that's your best bet.

    The only somewhat alternative is to use Seagate's Momentus XT hard drive, which is a hybrid SSD/HD, but it's a 2.5" form factor and it's generally made for laptops, and would require an adapter for desktops.

    And yes Intel and ATI is an excellent choice, that's what I'm running right now.


    does smart ssd cache provide a performance boost?
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